Why one would not defend Israel ?

[Twentyfirst]

3 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

 are you joking?

There is something wrong with you arab people.

There is SOMETHING WRONG with you white people.

You white fuccerss

You asian fuccers

^ is that racist?

 

This forum always says there is something wrong with Arab people. Undeveloped savages that create their own suffering (even though all the chaos is caused by whites)

On this forum there is always something wrong with Iran, with China, with Russia, with Afghanistan, with Arabs, but there is nothing ever wrong with whites. Interesting?

[PurpleTree]

Just now, Twentyfirst said:

This forum always says there is something wrong with Arab people. Undeveloped savages that create their own suffering (even though all the chaos is caused by whites)

On this forum there is always something wrong with Iran, with China, with Russia, with Afghanistan, with Arabs, but there is nothing ever wrong with whites. Interesting?

Dude i’m logging out you guys are brain rot. Have fun dunking on white people.

[Carl-Richard]

@PurpleTree Had they made the point without profanity, they would have said "white people oppressed Jews for 2000 years and then white people have the nerve to tell Arab people not to oppress Jews, is that not a bit ironic?" The "is that not ironic" part here carries the condemnation ("you fuckers"), without the profanity. True racism here would be "white people are simply more violent and oppressive as a people, it's in their nature", not simply describing historical happenstance.

Edited September 28 by Carl-Richard

[Twentyfirst]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Dude i’m logging out you guys are brain rot. Have fun dunking on white people.

If colored people did to white people what white people did to colored people you would all behave MUCH worse than me or others who call out this white supremacist bullshit 

[Twentyfirst]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

@PurpleTree Had they made the point without profanity, they would have said "white people oppressed jews for 2000 years and then white people have the nerve to tell arab people not to oppress jews, is that not a bit ironic?" The "is that not ironic" part here carries the condemnation ("you fuckers"), without the profanity.

Okay my bad

[Sucuk Ekmek]

This is another topic from the last few pages that I still couldn’t make sense of.

Don't mind me.

[Carl-Richard]

@PurpleTree I guess you could call hostile profanity directed against a group of people racism, and profanity against a group of people is of course especially antagonistic. Regardless, the problem is the profanity.

Edited September 28 by Carl-Richard

[MightyMind]

@Twentyfirst re-examine the history of Islam, their attempt to colonize Europe, and the Trans-Saharan Slave Trade. 

[Twentyfirst]

On 9/29/2025 at 0:10 AM, Carl-Richard said:

@PurpleTree I guess you could call hostile profanity directed against a group of people racism, and profanity against a group of people is of course especially antagonistic. Regardless, the problem is the profanity.

He's a liberal. Which means he's a closeted racist to PC to come out of the closet

Republicans are better

[Breakingthewall]

7 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

 

What do you think about the law passed by the Iraqi parliament, promoted by Islamic clerics, that allows marriage to 9-year-old girls?

Edited September 30 by Breakingthewall

[Carl-Richard]

6 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

He's a liberal. Which means he's a closeted racist to PC to come out of the closet

Republicans are better

It's your tone man.

[Elliott]

So, this guy is supposedly racist against white people, but he's a fan of white Leo on his forum full of mostly white people?

It was just coarse language.

@Twentyfirst ,purpletree defends palestine.

[BlueOak]

It's a tricky definition as it depends on intent.

If the intent is merely disparagement or derogatory, then its unhelpful, inflammatory and causes problems.
If the intent is constructive or to highlight an issue, then it could be argued to be useful, de-escalatory and fix problems.

If I say Russian's drink their problems away. I'd be better wording it as: The Russian people have a tendency to turn to vodka because they feel suppressed socially and politically, with no real outlet for their problems to be expressed. The Vodka acts as a both a symptom and a further cause of this suppression of their emotional state. Something English people, and to a certain extent men in general experience, stiff upper-lip is the english expression etc.

If I were to say Russians, the English or men have a problem. It's even less clear whether I am being derogatory or just bigoted for the sake of being bigoted. But of course, we don't always have time to word things in long sentences in conversations either, so we standardise communication.

There is something wrong with you arab people.

There is SOMETHING WRONG with you white people.

This to me, is a bad example of it. As anyone in ego identification with their skin color or culture is going to respond negatively.

*Also for the record, for the wider population who don't meditate or have healthier outlets, a certain amount of drink could be argued to be socially useful and bonding. Because what have we replaced the pubs with in England, nothing much social or healthy that's for sure.

Edited September 30 by BlueOak

[Kid A]

44 minutes ago, Elliott said:

So, this guy is supposedly racist against white people, but he's a fan of white Leo on his forum full of mostly white people?

It was just coarse language.

@Twentyfirst ,purpletree defends palestine.

If you had read this entire page, you would have known that Russians aren't white, so...

MAGA people can't be white either btw, since it's only whites that there's nothing ever wrong with on this forum.

[Schahin]

On 11.9.2025 at 7:11 AM, Schizophonia said:

I hadn't been at all interested in the conflict until now, so I checked because many people talk about genocide, but in fact there are only about 64,000 dead?

It's not a lot, especially when you consider that, as the mod @Inliytened1 said somewhere, if i remember well, Israel has big reasons to be paranoid and merciless insofar as it's a tiny country whose population has already suffered genocide (>6 million, not 64,000 over almost 3 years), has been gratuitously attacked several times by its neighbors supported by the USSR, and that Palestinian authorities are ultra antisemitic terrorists whom some dignitaries wish the Jews to be exterminated.

Indeed, there is the history of the colons and the military occupation, but it is rational given the behavior of the Palestinians and their neighbors; it seems that it is generally their fault.

If I were the head of a household and surrounded by a lot of moody neighbors, and had a history of violence, I probably would have bought guns and tried to get rid of my neighbors.

Besides that, Muslims have committed infinitely worse genocides over the last decade; when Bangladeshi independence fighters won the parliamentary elections, Pakistani authorities massacred, tortured, and raped millions of Bangladeshis.

In Indonesia, Islamists massacred all the members of the Communist Party under the pretext of an attempted coup, resulting in several hundred thousand to millions more deaths.

You've never heard of it because Muslims, and Arabs in particular, are tribalistic; they'll infiltrate everywhere in the West to talk about "children dying in Gaza." Now the entire Western left is hypnotized by the Arab diaspora's Temu-like arguments. Even YouTube is full of ads with sad music featuring skinny Gazan children to inspire pity, but you'll never hear them talk about these genocides, or simply all other conflicts in the world that make way more deads (congo, yemen...).
The left is very submissive to these things; it seems the far left tends to be anti-Western as a general rule. The radical left leader of my country fully supports Palestine and even makes YouTube videos to explain how right China is to want to invade Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet and that the contradictions are "American imperialism".

 

1. Another Pro Genocide voice trying to bring forward arguments that the killing of 83% civilians, 20.000 innocent children, 200 journalists that tried to cover the whole barbaric and apocaliptic misery brougth upon the innocent palestinian civilians. 

2. Not even talking about the blockade of food, water and medicine, the murder of  nearly 3000 people awaiting Food and Water in humanitarian "Death Centers. The hundreds or thousands that died of hunger. 

3.The lack of Anestisia that made doctors without borders and domestic doctors have to amputate adults and children on their raw limbs. Not even mentioning all the innocent people that were burnt alive in the bombings and lost their eyesight and suffered other extreme injuries.

4.The uncountable people still alive under the rubbles of the daily bombings. Bombings around 70.000- 100.000kg which account for 35-48kg per person that lives in the Gazastrip.

5.The military occupation in the Westbank the thousand or two thousand people that were killed there already in two years, the 2000 children that were killed since the start of the millenia.

6. All of this exerted by one of the strongest military powers in the world, unconditionally backed by american congress and american military and financial aid.

First recognize and establish a palestinian state, where people have human rights and dignity and are not robbed of them, then establish peace with your neighbours and not Apartheid.

I also mourn for all the families that lost their dear ones in the 7th Oct attack and the sickness of Netanyahu prioritizing the upholding of his policital career over the Israeli hostages.

Netanyahu is a sick man, he only deserves to rot in prison, a death sentence would be actually good for him.

Edited September 30 by Schahin

[Carl-Richard]

On 27.9.2025 at 3:37 PM, Inliytened1 said:

Listen to the full speech this is Israel's side of it.  He does address the accusations of genocide.

 

If the argument is that it's not a genocide because the immense starvation, displacement and death is "not intentional", there are a few problems with that. "Our intention was to deliver 3000 calories of food per day per person to Gaza, but Hamas steals 80% of it". Ok, if you fail to give them food, you recognize that you fail to give them food and why it's happening, but you continue the war, is that not intentional?

It's like if they used trucks where they knew that 80% of the trucks would break down before the border, but they continue the war and blame the truck manufacturers, wouldn't you say they are now intentionally starving the people? You have to be very critical of the frame-setting where blame is shifted towards the opponents. Because as long as you're actively taking action in a direction, no matter the blame of others and no matter how seemingly justified you make it appear by referencing Oct 7th, there is always blame there from your side.

Edited September 30 by Carl-Richard

[Twentyfirst]

19 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

What do you think about the law passed by the Iraqi parliament, promoted by Islamic clerics, that allows marriage to 9-year-old girls?

I have zero thoughts on it. Why bring it up dude?

Could you do me a favor and go to Iraq and try to schedule getting a 9 year old bride? I would love to see what they do to you on the front page of the papers 

Edited September 30 by Twentyfirst

[Twentyfirst]

10 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

It's your tone man.

Tone = PC

I didn't know you alphas were all so sensitive 

[Twentyfirst]

8 hours ago, BlueOak said:

It's a tricky definition as it depends on intent.

If the intent is merely disparagement or derogatory, then its unhelpful, inflammatory and causes problems.
If the intent is constructive or to highlight an issue, then it could be argued to be useful, de-escalatory and fix problems.

If I say Russian's drink their problems away. I'd be better wording it as: The Russian people have a tendency to turn to vodka because they feel suppressed socially and politically, with no real outlet for their problems to be expressed. The Vodka acts as a both a symptom and a further cause of this suppression of their emotional state. Something English people, and to a certain extent men in general experience, stiff upper-lip is the english expression etc.

If I were to say Russians, the English or men have a problem. It's even less clear whether I am being derogatory or just bigoted for the sake of being bigoted. But of course, we don't always have time to word things in long sentences in conversations either, so we standardise communication.

There is something wrong with you arab people.

There is SOMETHING WRONG with you white people.

This to me, is a bad example of it. As anyone in ego identification with their skin color or culture is going to respond negatively.

*Also for the record, for the wider population who don't meditate or have healthier outlets, a certain amount of drink could be argued to be socially useful and bonding. Because what have we replaced the pubs with in England, nothing much social or healthy that's for sure.

Everyone in the world including some white people agree that white supremacy is a huge problem

There is no Arab, Chinese, or Russian supremacy

[Twentyfirst]

8 hours ago, Elliott said:

So, this guy is supposedly racist against white people, but he's a fan of white Leo on his forum full of mostly white people?

It was just coarse language.

@Twentyfirst ,purpletree defends palestine.

Purple Tree is confused as hell about his tribe. He genuinely believes he is at the forefront of human and women's rights even though he is last in line. This clouds everything he says
 

Leo is a genius but he doesn't travel and is brainwashed by stupid colors on a non existent spiral so again he thinks his weird liberal ideas are ahead of everyone else