Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[Elliott]

40 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

His audience is not being lost, it is being absorbed by some other right-wing epistemic pervert like Ben Shapiro.

You don't understand what I'm saying, he GAINED 6X his followers since his death. Shapiros audience is older.

Edited Thursday at 09:30 PM by Elliott

[Joshe]

8 minutes ago, Elliott said:

You don't understand what I'm saying, he GAINED 6X his followers since his death. Shapiros audience older.

Good thing there isn't anyone to really follow. They'll need to find someone younger and better than Shapiro. Thing is though, it takes time to build a reputation. You can't really just drop in a replacement on a dime and expect everyone to be into it. It seems like a big challenge to keep TPUSA from collapsing. 

[Elliott]

17 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Good thing there isn't anyone to really follow. They'll need to find someone younger and better than Shapiro. Thing is though, it takes time to build a reputation. You can't really just drop in a replacement on a dime and expect everyone to be into it. It seems like a big challenge to keep TPUSA from collapsing. 

Even for Boomers, this huge uptick of maga hate is a bit of an outlier. I myself don't understand how things will de-escalate, as alarming as things are, but I think us leftists in general are probably being pessimistic about the outlook.

 

 

Karl Rove.....

Edited Thursday at 09:20 PM by Elliott

[Phil King]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

I feel like Fox news will die with boomers, what other hate propagandists does gen Z follow?

Honestly as a gen z, moderate democrat. I listen to Nick Fuentes. I feel he offers a steelman of white nationalism and why we need to seriously limit immigration and LGBTQ+ ideology. I dont agree with everything he says, but I do appreciate his boldness to speak his truth

https://rumble.com/v6vfzdj-america-is-being-killed-by-foreigners.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_v

 

Also charlie kirk had like close to 10 mil followers across all platforms. He was way bigger than people realize, and they will mostly go further right

Edited Thursday at 09:22 PM by Phil King

[Joshe]

2 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I myself don't understand how things will de-escalate, as alarming as things are, but I think us leftists in general are probably being pessimistic about the outlook.

Yeah, it seems like this caused the Overton window to shift like a mother fucker. They've successfully smeared leftists out to be heartless and idiotic assholes. And now with the regime garnering support for the targeting of broadcast stations, and with the National Guard going into Chicago looming, I think we're in for one hell of a ride. I see Chicago going very badly. 

[Elliott]

4 minutes ago, Phil King said:

Honestly as a gen z, moderate democrat. I listen to Nick Fuentes. I feel he offers a steelman of white nationalism and why we need to seriously limit immigration and LGBTQ+ ideology. I dont agree with everything he says, but I do appreciate his boldness to speak his truth

https://rumble.com/v6vfzdj-america-is-being-killed-by-foreigners.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_v

I thought nick fuentes sounded smart when someone else on here asked that i listen to him, a ton smarter than kirk.

Edited Thursday at 09:26 PM by Elliott

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

Israel is committing genocide or ethnic cleansing. Bibi has an arrest warrant by the International criminal court.

 

I don't care what the International court says Hamas took the war to Israel not the other way around.  So it's war not genocide.  

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Kirk only had 1.7million followers. I feel like Fox news will die with boomers, what other hate propagandists does gen Z follow?

@Inliytened1 @carterfelder who do you like?

CNN

 

[Elliott]

14 minutes ago, Phil King said:

Honestly as a gen z, moderate democrat. I listen to Nick Fuentes. I feel he offers a steelman of white nationalism and why we need to seriously limit immigration and LGBTQ+ ideology. I dont agree with everything he says, but I do appreciate his boldness to speak his truth

https://rumble.com/v6vfzdj-america-is-being-killed-by-foreigners.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_v

 

Also charlie kirk had like close to 10 mil followers across all platforms. He was way bigger than people realize, and they will mostly go further right

Fuentes has a relative tiny following right? Do you think gen-z kirk followers will move to fuentes?

 

"As of September 2025, Nick Fuentes has over 750,000 followers on X, and his livestream viewership on Rumble has reached approximately 500,000."

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I don't care what the International court says Hamas took the war to Israel not the other way around.  So it's war not genocide.  

200‘000 people in Belgium. Belgium is a small country. That’s quite nice, no?

 

[Hardkill]

50 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

His audience is not being lost, it is being absorbed by some other right-wing epistemic pervert like Ben Shapiro.

Why aren’t enough centrists and Independents, even those who follow politics regularly, out there are not able to see that the Republican Party is much worse than the Democratic Party like?

Are most centrists and Independents too afraid to take a side? Are they just more corrupt or more foolish than liberals and Democrats are? 
 

Or do centrists and Independents generally not follow politics and are not as informed as much as left-wingers, right-wingers, and highly engaged party loyalists do?

Edited Thursday at 09:41 PM by Hardkill

[Phil King]

11 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Do you think gen-z kirk followers will move to fuentes?

Its hard to say since Nick was extremely critical of Charlie Kirk(Even moreso than a lot of democrats) but I would say maybe 10-20% of them will start tuning into fuentes more. I was watching his livestream the day after the assasination and he had close to 200k live viewers which is insane for rumble. His stream ended up breaking his record for most watched video by like 3x and got close to 3mil views.

Also much of the reason for Nicks small audience is because hes been banned from a ton of platforms. Though recently his stuff has been able to get promoted on more mainstream social medias like Instagram and Youtube

I do think seeing Kirk getting assasinated will radicalize a lot of young people 

Edited Thursday at 09:49 PM by Phil King

[Inliytened1]

31 minutes ago, Phil King said:

Honestly as a gen z, moderate democrat. why we need to seriously limit immigration and LGBTQ+ ideology. I dont agree with everything he says, but I do appreciate his boldness to speak his truth

https://rumble.com/v6vfzdj-america-is-being-killed-by-foreigners.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_v

 

Also charlie kirk had like close to 10 mil followers across all platforms. He was way bigger than people realize, and they will mostly go further right

What dont you agree with?

[Jodistrict]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

You're playing a character too.  One who demonizes Israel 

 

This is the article I was looking at.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/miriam-adelson-trump/

 

[Phil King]

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What dont you agree with?

Probably the biggest things i disagree with are his toxic views on women and dogmatic views on race. He believes that women shouldnt be able to vote and dont belong in the workplace. He also is a hardcore race realist and has said the even if you give black/indian people 100+ years to assimilate in america, they wouldnt be able to because they dont have the brain power and have been raised in a backwards culture.

[TrustTheProcess]

@Inliytened1

 

So because Hamas started it, the IDF is justified in killing and starving 100k+ children?

What is your threshold for volume of starving babies before it becomes a problem for you? Lower than international consensus of diplomats and legal experts surely, but is there a quantification? 

[Twentyfirst]

6 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

So why even post it?

To show the sickness of the whole political culture and how it breeds mental illness to 99 percent of people who participate in it

[Twentyfirst]

14 minutes ago, TrustTheProcess said:

@Inliytened1

 

So because Hamas started it, the IDF is justified in killing and starving 100k+ children?

What is your threshold for volume of starving babies before it becomes a problem for you? Lower than international consensus of diplomats and legal experts surely, but is there a quantification? 

The IDF is decades older than Hamas. They started it. The only reason Hamas exists is because of the hostility of the IDF (the most moral army in the world)

[Inliytened1]

40 minutes ago, Phil King said:

Probably the biggest things i disagree with are his toxic views on women and dogmatic views on race. He believes that women shouldnt be able to vote and dont belong in the workplace. He also is a hardcore race realist and has said the even if you give black/indian people 100+ years to assimilate in america, they wouldnt be able to because they dont have the brain power and have been raised in a backwards culture.

So why would you tune into this dude? I'd hate to see what his views on transgenders are.  What's the point of a Democrat listening to him at all? 

Edited Thursday at 10:56 PM by Inliytened1

[Twentyfirst]

55 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I don't care what the International court says Hamas took the war to Israel not the other way around.  So it's war not genocide.  

But you care that the international court recognizes Israel as a legitimate country even though they are just a US colony for destabilizing?