Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[PenguinPablo]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

You don't understand what I'm saying, he GAINED 6X his followers since his death. Shapiros audience is older.

@DocWatts They will latch onto his ghost 100x harder now, until someone else fills the void. Basically turned an idiot into an idol. 

[DocWatts]

1 hour ago, PenguinPablo said:

@DocWatts They will latch onto his ghost 100x harder now, until someone else fills the void. Basically turned an idiot into an idol. 

Did you not see the brazen lack of empathy from Trump about Kirk's death?

It's obvious that Kankles doesn't give a shit about Kirk. When a reporter asked him how we was doing in the wake of his friend's death, rather than expressing grief he immediately pivoted to bragging about that gaudy White House ballroom that's being constructed.

It's fracturing MAGA's coalition.

Edited yesterday at 12:10 AM by DocWatts

[DocWatts]

 

 

[PurpleTree]

22 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

Did you not see the brazen lack of empathy from Trump about Kirk's death?

I mean i think Trump is just not able to have and show empathy at all. His brain is wired differently.

[Leo Gura]

44 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

Did you not see the brazen lack of empathy from Trump about Kirk's death?

Kirk would have wanted it this way.

Afterall, empathy is for losers.

Edited Thursday at 11:51 PM by Leo Gura

[Elliott]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Kirk would have wanted it this way.

Empathy is for losers.

False, he believed in sympathy. Read Kirk's entire quote, right after his empathy comment he says he believes in sympathy "you cannot know how another person feels", he says.

[Elliott]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

So why would you tune into this dude? I'd hate to see what his views on transgenders are.  What's the point of a Democrat listening to him at all? 

Do you really not comprehend trying to understand other viewpoints? Fuentes didn't seem hateful at all to me, of what I've watched of his.

Edited Thursday at 11:53 PM by Elliott

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

False, he believed in sympathy. Read Kirk's entire quote, right after his empathy comment he says he believes in sympathy "you cannot know how another person feels", he says.

It is a classic trope that fascists believe empathy is weak and gay. Don't act otherwise.

Fascists attack and mock empathy. There is nothing new in this worldview. That's exactly what Kirk's worldview believed. Which is why he wanted kids to watch televised executions and why he mocked the Paul Pelosi attack.

Kirk didn't believe in empathy because he was incapable of it, and the same for his king, Trump. Kirk wanted a president with no empathy. He got it.

Edited Thursday at 11:58 PM by Leo Gura

[Elliott]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It is a classic trope that right-wingers believe empathy is weak and gay. Don't act otherwise.

Fascists attack and mock empathy. There is nothing new in this worldview. That's exactly what Kirk's worldview believed. Which is why he wanted kids to watch televised executions.

I have not seen what you're describing from kirk. I think that's a strawman.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 12:00 AM by Elliott

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Do you really not comprehend trying to understand other viewpoints? Fuentes didn't seem hateful at all to me, of what I've watched of his.

I get it I am all about that I was probing.  But if what he described is the case it sounds hard to listen to.  For example..I try to listen to David Pakman at least once or twice a week. I put him on for about 5 or 10 minutes and after that I want to puke. It has to be the same here.  This guy is so biased it's ridiculous.  Meaning his side can do no wrong at all.  Spin anything at any cost.  Its sickening.

Edited yesterday at 01:11 AM by Inliytened1

[ExploringReality]

@Elliott

Listen bro 

[Elliott]

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I get it I am all about that I was probing.  But if what he described is the case it sounds hard to listen to.  For example..I try to listen to David Pakman at least one or twice a week. I put him on for about 5 or 10 minutes and after that I want to puke. It has to be the same here.  This guy is so biased it's ridiculous.  Meaning his side can do no wrong at all.  Spin anything at any cost.  Its sickening.

I would rather watch Fuentes than fox news, Shapiro, kirk, any other conservative, by far. He's not a raging nazi, he has a radical view but he seems pretty honest to me actually, unlike ANY other conservative.

[Phil King]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

So why would you tune into this dude? I'd hate to see what his views on transgenders are.  What's the point of a Democrat listening to him at all?

The main reason I listen to him is that hes basically the only political commentator talking about the biggest issue in our country which is that our government is occupied by the parasitic government of Israel. Since he is an independent and not beholden to any advertisers(Like most others), he is not gonna pull any punches. 

Other than that, its good to know your enemies arguments better than they do and the only way to do that is by listening to who they get their opinions from. 

Also not gonna lie, he is far and away the most entertaining political commentator, literally funnier than many standup comedians. But yeah i do agree that listening to too much can warp ur mind

[Phil King]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

he seems pretty honest to me actually, unlike ANY other conservative.

^^^ This too. I appreciate how he doesnt hide any of his racist and mysoginstic views while people like kirk held similar beliefs but hid behind some kind of moral facade. 

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I would rather watch Fuentes than fox news, Shapiro, kirk, any other conservative, by far. He's not a raging nazi, he has a radical view but he seems pretty honest to me actually, unlike ANY other conservative.

He, like Kirk is a Christisn nationalist no?  So he sounds very similar to Kirk but maybe not as radical.

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

He, like Kirk is a Christisn nationalist no?  So he sounds very similar to Kirk but maybe not as radical.

Fuentes is more radical but honest and smart, kirk was a lying idiot.

[Inliytened1]

7 minutes ago, Phil King said:

The main reason I listen to him is that hes basically the only political commentator talking about the biggest issue in our country which is that our government is occupied by the parasitic government of Israel. Since he is an independent and not beholden to any advertisers(Like most others), he is not gonna pull any punches. 

Other than that, its good to know your enemies arguments better than they do and the only way to do that is by listening to who they get their opinions from. 

Also not gonna lie, he is far and away the most entertaining political commentator, literally funnier than many standup comedians. But yeah i do agree that listening to too much can warp ur mind

Interesting so his stance on Israel differs from the average right winger.  I know with the ongoing pounding of Gaza even Kirk was starting to pull back from defending Israel wasn't he?  I still feel like an ally is an ally.  The US isn't going to turn their back on Israel yet.  

[Elliott]

Tell me again how they're not nazis. Mass shooting at homeless camp.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 01:37 AM by Elliott

[Inliytened1]

 

16 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Fuentes is more radical but honest and smart, kirk was a lying idiot.

To your earlier question i have a much easier time listening to CNN as opposed to Fox News or my mom's favorite - Newsmax.  That channel is like fox news on steroids.  I can't even listen to these channels let alone put on a guy like Fuentes.  But I'll give him a listen...However I did find Kirk's debates entertaining and he made some valid points in them.  So I don't think he was lying at least not in his own mind. But he was so strictly aligned with the Bible that I think it really made him lack nuance in that regard.   But he knew his facts I think its inaccurate to call him an idiot.  

Edited yesterday at 01:40 AM by Inliytened1

[Leo Gura]

Fuentez is a straight up Nazi.

Please stop whitewashing his insane and childish ideas.