Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[Inliytened1]

On 9/14/2025 at 0:22 PM, carterfelder said:

What is an example of his “violent” and “bigoted rhetoric?”

I'd like to know this too...lol..he seemed arrogant but his takes on abortion i agree with although you can make an argument on both sides..with immigrants..well...thats honestly one i say is a complex issue that can't be so black and white. Just send them all back and then you have no crime from immigrants..well...its all a numbers game - no, there has to be some humanity.  We have to take a strong stance and give citizens preference.   I get it but for the ones already here with good records who are productive why send them all back just point blank without further review.  Some may have been here for decades doing good things.  There's a lack of nuance from Kirk in certain regards.  And where Kirk went wrong is he was strictly by the book.  The Bible.   He didn't think outside of that as smart as he was.

Edited September 17 by Inliytened1

[Inliytened1]

On 9/14/2025 at 11:58 AM, Socrates said:

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Also you misinterpreted tht evidence completely, all those "lefty" evidence are explicitly groyper protocol. He was as right wing as it gets in fact, he seems to have committed the murder because Kirk wasn't conservative enough (like Fuentes). Not everything should be taken face value Leo, come on man....

I am not buying this - this is absurd.  I understand there is still stuff coming out but I'm not buying it.

[Inliytened1]

On 9/14/2025 at 5:47 PM, Leo Gura said:

The issue is that this is a relative matter of perspective. Fascist is a constructed category, much moreso than a duck. It's not so clear who is and isn't a fascist because the political spectrum is very wide with no natural demarcations.

Is Charlie Kirk a fascist? There is no objective answer to that question

The problem is it is associated with nazism and thus you get these young leftist running around calling the right nazis and it gets to be a little extreme.   Even to violence which actually is counterproductive.   

[Yimpa]

22 hours ago, carterfelder said:

Do you notice anyone taking pictures of it or making judgmental faces while behind you in traffic?

Caring about what some immature kid thinks about it is a waste of my time and energy.

 

Edited September 18 by Yimpa

[Inliytened1]

10 hours ago, carterfelder said:

It makes perfect sense he was the killer, after all, I've lost a number of friends and potential second dates just for questioning transgender ideology. Don't question transgender ideology, or you might lose your friends, dates or even your life if you're an influencer! It's a death cult.

If his boyfriend was that transwoman Fox News and X are talking about, we've got all the answers we need.

I can't help but agree with this. But not for the reasons you think..is it really right to take away rights for them when for them it goes beyond ideology if you are in fact born in the wrong body?  Kirk's strict adherence to the Bible limited him and forced him into a stance on transgenders which was inaccurate.  But because he couldn't think outside Christianity he maintained an unsustainable stance.  This is ultimately going to piss a lot of people off but combined with buying into the nazi rhetoric the left is spitting it morphs into the perfect concoction of violence.   I'm actually very sad he is dead I see he had good intentions and I feel empathy for his family but also he inadvertently angered a lot of folks.  Of course, that never justifies violence though. 

Edited September 18 by Inliytened1

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Apparition of Jack said:

Now that I’ve had a few days to process it, for some reason Charlie Kirk’s death feels like it’s hit me harder than all the other killings we’ve seen since… well, who knows.

 

I think because we all could tell he had a good heart inside regardless of his views.  Or maybe it was his passion to spread that he believed.  I know this same passion.  I feel for his wife and kids.  There was something about this guy for sure. I've done nothing but listen to his debates for the past few days and I feel like I started to get to know him almost.  You can tell this guy was as passionate as it gets with his beliefs and wanted to do good.  But..his views on certain things were skewed unfortunately and he was extremely vocal about them.  To the point where he dominated debates over and over and even brought women in to debate the abortion side when women started getting good strikes in about women's rights.  

 

Edited September 17 by Inliytened1

[Joshe]

The dude called for Biden's execution simply because he was his political opponent, but yeah, take the image that he was a saint, which is an image he intentionally crafted for obvious reasons, and let that be your view of him. That doesn't make you gullible as hell at all. 

"Joe Biden is a bumbling dementia filled Alzheimer's corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America." - Kirk

Kirk literally called for public executions that 12-year-olds could watch. And if it were up to him, gays, trans, and leftist would be forced to either reject their ways or be publicly executed for kids to watch, so they never got the idea that those things were acceptable. 

This is the man you're honoring. It's pathetic. 

We shouldn't pretend Kirk was anything other than someone advocating for theocratic mass murder. He just wrapped it all in enough layers of "just asking questions" and "biblical values" to maintain plausible deniability, which was clearly effective. 

Edited September 17 by Joshe

[Hatfort]

The confession texts between the guy and his partner are weird for two reasons, as it's been pointed out online. They are extremely convenient for the FBI, all they needed is written there, and it doesn't sound natural. Can't say anything further than this, but it has to be acknowledged. There's a balance in not being conspiratorial, and swallowing anything that is put in front of our faces. 

Edited September 17 by Hatfort

[Inliytened1]

7 minutes ago, Joshe said:

The dude called for the execution of Biden simply because he was his political enemy, but yeah, take the image that he was a saint, which is an image he intentionally crafted for obvious reasons, and let that be your view of him. That doesn't make you gullible as hell at all. 

You can't fault him for his passion.  To glorify him as a saint would be obviously wrong as well but he did have a lot of passion.  His charisma added the interesting element I suppose.

Edited September 17 by Inliytened1

[PurpleTree]

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You can't fault him for his passion.  To glorify him as a saint would be obviously wrong as well but he did have a lot of passion.  His charisma added the interesting element I suppose.

You’re a fan. We get it.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

You’re a fan. We get it.

It's not that because actually I showed you where his limitations were from my perspective.  Nothing could conflict with what was written in the Bible to him.  This is is a huge problem but I won't get into it.  I'm talking strictly from a human perspective.  There was something good in this guy. I can't point it out to you.  And maybe there is something good in the shooter. Maybe he'll spend the rest of his life reading the Bible in prison.  How ironic would that be. 

 

[PurpleTree]

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

It's not that because actually I showed you where his limitations were from my perspective.  Nothing could conflict with what was written in the Bible to him.  This is is a huge problem but I won't get into it.  I'm talking strictly from a human perspective.  There was something good in this guy. I can't point it out to you.  And maybe there is something good in the shooter. Maybe he'll spend the rest of his life reading the Bible in prison.  How ironic would that be. 

 

I mean he was quite brave i‘d say. That’s a positive thing i can say about him.

But a lot of religious people are in a way brave. Because they think they have god or jesus or whatever on their side and when they die they believe they go to heaven and it’s honey flowing and angels or virgins or something.

[Joshe]

Kirk preached abomination and normalized the noose. Why are we looking for his good traits?

You could literally find something good in everyone. Never really understood this behavior of trying hard to see the good in that which mostly isn't. 

The progression Kirk championed:

• Label them abominations
• Declare their existence a crime against America/God
• Make their execution public entertainment
• Have children watch to learn the lesson
• Create a generation that sees this as justice

This is part of who Kirk was and it should be included in your overall view of him. 

Edited September 18 by Joshe

[zurew]

The Bible is the biiggest issue not his rhetoric about racist shit and about Bidens assasination and making fun of George floyd and Paul pelosi and more, but no one who voted for trump gives a single fuck about any of this .

I dont even know why you would ever pretend that you care and that we should think that you hold any principle at all, when you are mad at randoms on this forum and on twitter but okay with repiblicans doing and saying whatever they want while spouting your uninformed nonsense about the left being worse.

This whole thing is fucking embematic of the vast majority of conservatives , its just about vibe politics.

Like you are here to pretend anyone should learn anything from you while you are completely unread on everything politics related.

[Lyubov]

44 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You can't fault him for his passion.  To glorify him as a saint would be obviously wrong as well but he did have a lot of passion.  His charisma added the interesting element I suppose.

Hitler was passionate too. Cliche comparison, sure. There was a Jew who watched a Hitler speech in person. Said he was moved to tears by Hitler’s passion, before the full Nazi agenda became clear. Kirk had it coming on way or another. I hope for more vigilantes. I’m still not entirely convinced this doesn’t play an important role in correcting tyranny. 

[Talinn]

5 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Kirk preached abomination and normalized the noose. Why are we looking for his good traits?

You could literally find something good in everyone. Never really understood this behavior. 

The progression Kirk championed:

• Label them abominations
• Declare their existence a crime against America/God
• Make their execution public entertainment
• Have children watch to learn the lesson
• Create a generation that sees this as justice

Ive seen an uptick in people saying transphobic things. People talking about trans people like they're a different species not realizing they're talking to one of them. It's quite depressing.

[zurew]

This is at the very least as cringe as people were who glorified george floyd being a good guy.

No he wasnt, just the same way you shouldnt glorify charlie the dishonest propagandist kirk.

[Inliytened1]

35 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

 Cliche comparison, sure. 

 Enough said.

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Joshe said:

The dude called for Biden's execution simply because he was his political opponent, but yeah, take the image that he was a saint, which is an image he intentionally crafted for obvious reasons, and let that be your view of him. That doesn't make you gullible as hell at all. 

"Joe Biden is a bumbling dementia filled Alzheimer's corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America." - Kirk

Kirk literally called for public executions that 12-year-olds could watch. And if it were up to him, gays, trans, and leftist would be forced to either reject their ways or be publicly executed for kids to watch, so they never got the idea that those things were acceptable. 

This is the man you're honoring. It's pathetic. 

We shouldn't pretend Kirk was anything other than someone advocating for theocratic mass murder. He just wrapped it all in enough layers of "just asking questions" and "biblical values" to maintain plausible deniability, which was clearly effective. 

Can you post where he called for Biden's  execution and your other claims where he calls for executions?

Edited September 18 by Inliytened1

[PurpleTree]

Kyle also going down a bit the Israel rabbit hole