Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[Jannes]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Has everyone watched the video/shooting?

I haven’t and I won’t. At least not anytime soon.

I have. Definitely left a picture in my head. 

[carterfelder]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

@carterfelder @carterfelder

Grok

"Transphobic Comments

Kirk has repeatedly made statements that dehumanize transgender individuals, portray them as dangerous, or dismiss their identities as mental illness or delusion. These are often framed as critiques of transgender rights, gender-affirming care, or related policies. Examples include:

Violent Comments

While he does not explicitly call for violence against specific individuals, his language often endorses or normalizes lethal force, retribution, or confrontation, which critics argue incites harm. Examples include

 

Yes, Charlie Kirk called for the death penalty for Joe Biden. In a July 2023 episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, he described Biden as "a bumbling dementia filled Alzheimer's corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America."

Grok:

If alive in mid-September 2025—especially amid the resurfacing of the quote following his own assassination—Kirk likely would have responded in a way that:

Defended the Statement as Hyperbolic Rhetoric, Not Literal Incitement: Kirk often distinguished between his "rhetorical flourishes" and actual calls to violence, emphasizing that his words were about legal accountability (e.g., impeachment, prosecution) for what he saw as Biden's "crimes" like alleged corruption in family business dealings or policy failures. He might argue: "I was speaking about justice through the legal system, not vigilante action—unlike the radical left that assassinates conservatives for their speech." This aligns with his past defenses of similar inflammatory comments, such as his support for the Second Amendment and acceptance of "some gun deaths" as a trade-off for rights.

Accused Critics of Hypocrisy and Deflection: Drawing from his X posts criticizing Biden's rhetoric (e.g., the "bullseye" comment about Trump), he would probably pivot to highlight Democratic "extremism," saying something like: "Biden called Trump an existential threat and put a bullseye on him—yet when I call out real corruption, they try to silence conservatives. My words didn't kill anyone; their hate did." Given the timing post-assassination, he might frame the quote's revival as "gloating" by the left, similar to how he blasted media over crime stories or political violence in 2024-2025 posts.

Used It to Mobilize Supporters and Amplify His Platform: Kirk was a master at turning controversy into engagement. He might dedicate a podcast episode or X thread to the topic, inviting guests like Trump allies to discuss "Biden's crimes" and the "war on conservatives." His widow Erika's post-death vow to carry on his "legacy" suggests this combative style would continue, and alive, Kirk would likely echo that by saying, "They want to cancel me for speaking truth to power, but I'll never back down—this only fuels the fire for America First." He could also tie it to broader themes like his advocacy for the death penalty in murder cases, positioning himself as consistent on justice issues.

[lostingenosmaze]

2 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Good god, this thread is still going on. 46,000 + views and almost a thousand replies. 

I do ask the mods to eventually lock this thread, when they see fit.

Why? It's not even been a week.

[Elliott]

21 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

Grok:

If alive in mid-September 2025—especially amid the resurfacing of the quote following his own assassination—Kirk likely would have responded in a way that:

Defended the Statement as Hyperbolic Rhetoric, Not Literal Incitement: Kirk often distinguished between his "rhetorical flourishes" and actual calls to violence, emphasizing that his words were about legal accountability (e.g., impeachment, prosecution) for what he saw as Biden's "crimes" like alleged corruption in family business dealings or policy failures. He might argue: "I was speaking about justice through the legal system, not vigilante action—unlike the radical left that assassinates conservatives for their speech." This aligns with his past defenses of similar inflammatory comments, such as his support for the Second Amendment and acceptance of "some gun deaths" as a trade-off for rights.

Accused Critics of Hypocrisy and Deflection: Drawing from his X posts criticizing Biden's rhetoric (e.g., the "bullseye" comment about Trump), he would probably pivot to highlight Democratic "extremism," saying something like: "Biden called Trump an existential threat and put a bullseye on him—yet when I call out real corruption, they try to silence conservatives. My words didn't kill anyone; their hate did." Given the timing post-assassination, he might frame the quote's revival as "gloating" by the left, similar to how he blasted media over crime stories or political violence in 2024-2025 posts.

Used It to Mobilize Supporters and Amplify His Platform: Kirk was a master at turning controversy into engagement. He might dedicate a podcast episode or X thread to the topic, inviting guests like Trump allies to discuss "Biden's crimes" and the "war on conservatives." His widow Erika's post-death vow to carry on his "legacy" suggests this combative style would continue, and alive, Kirk would likely echo that by saying, "They want to cancel me for speaking truth to power, but I'll never back down—this only fuels the fire for America First." He could also tie it to broader themes like his advocacy for the death penalty in murder cases, positioning himself as consistent on justice issues.

No one has claimed "literal incitement" @carterfelder, what you're doing is called moving goalposts, i claim he had violent rhetoric.

[PurpleTree]

44 minutes ago, Jannes said:

I have. Definitely left a picture in my head. 

I mean it’s basically a public execution.

I don’t know why so many people watch such stuff.

I’ve seen the jfk thing and others of course but that was different.

[Daniel Balan]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

This is the kind of stuff that makes Leftists so repugnant to many.

You can disagree with Kirk's views all you want, but taunting at his memorial is animal behavior. Everyone on the left should denounce such behavior. The left is supposed to be better than that.

Do not give MAGA an optical moral victory.

Leftists should learn to confront the right in civil debates, in a conquest of ideas. Not with sniper rifles or brat behaviour. Like Charlie Kirk or not but the reason he was so successful was because he had the courage to debate anyone, anywhere, anytime, in a civil, and humane manner. He was a man. He had balls. Something the left seem to have a lack of. 

Leftists sit on their high moral thrones thinking that Kirk or Trump are "dumb fascists". The left are out of their minds. When have you guys seen a leftist with as much courage and grit as Charlie had? I have huge respect for Charlie! He died with a microphone in his hands, because the leftists weren't man enough to confront him in a battle of ideas. How does the left expect to win elections if they are too weak and pathetic to debate a man one on one, without killing him? Who in their right mind votes for people that are unable to have a debate without crying "Fascist" "Nazi" "Mysoginist" ? As I said, the left is out of their minds.

Edited Monday at 10:41 PM by Daniel Balan

[PurpleTree]

3 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

When have you guys seen a leftist with as much courage and grit as Charlie had? 

Bernie? Mamdani?

Edited Monday at 10:42 PM by PurpleTree

[Daniel Balan]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

Bernie? 

The fact that an 80 year old is the best the left can offer speaks volumes. I love Bernie, he is my favorite politican on the planet. 

[Jodistrict]

This is a shocking video on the right-wing cancel culture.  These are the hypocrites who complained about cancel culture, and now they have power they are going way beyond to fire people or have them arrested for their free speech.  They are complete liars.

 

 

[lostingenosmaze]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

This is the kind of stuff that makes Leftists so repugnant to many.

You can disagree with Kirk's views all you want, but taunting at his memorial is animal behavior. Everyone on the left should denounce such behavior. The left is supposed to be better than that.

Do not give MAGA an optical moral victory.

It's not just individuals either. Entire companies are in on it

https://cosmicbook.news/bethesda-charlie-kirk-controversy

[Jodistrict]

This is a shocking video on the right-wing cancel culture.  These are the hypocrites who complained about cancel culture, and now they have power they are going way beyond to fire people or have them arrested for their free speech.  

 

 

[Elliott]

You're never going to gain or lose 'empathy points' with conservatives, the worries are futile. If anyone cares about empathy, they're not voting Republican. The outrage is pre-fabricated, a farce.

Edited Monday at 11:16 PM by Elliott

[Lyubov]

Have you guys SEEN the jokes conservatives and fascists make about George Floyd, poor immigrants and Palestinians???? 

This is NOT going to make the left look bad or hurt their image. If anything they need to toughen up a bit and start punching back... 

[MightyMind]

@Lyubov those working to bring forth your digital gulag agree! fight! fight! fight!

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

I mean it’s basically a public execution.

I don’t know why so many people watch such stuff.

Trauma is a bitch. I’ve been ruthlessly studying it, living ’it, and now I’ve come face-to-face with how deeply pain and suffering have shaped me.

My ultra-conservative uncle once told me a story from his childhood, when he was ~5–7 years old. One night, after misbehaving, his mother pulled out a Bible and a large kitchen knife, held it to her child, and said: “If you don’t behave and follow the rules, I’ll slice your palm with this so you’ll learn your lesson.”

Decades later, he grew up to become a Bible study teacher.. preaching its stories while privately condemning and mocking anyone close to him who broke those corrupted rules.

I was one of his victims.

I haven’t spoken to him, or to those family members, in over five years. That’s when I began exploring who I am, outside of the rigid systems I was forced into. And for the past 1.5 years, I’ve been transitioning—something I knew in my bones as a child ~5–7 years old, but had no one safe to turn to back then.

Actualizing has saved me from spiraling into a life of complete misery. Had I stayed tied to those toxic dynamics, I could have been easily twisted into the same darkness we now see in this assassin, or in the countless mass shootings that scar us today.

[Jannes]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

I mean it’s basically a public execution.

I don’t know why so many people watch such stuff.

I’ve seen the jfk thing and others of course but that was different.

Curiousity, understanding, spectacle. People in rome watched gladiators and animals slaughtering themselves for entertainment. 

I didnt get a thrill out of it, but I was only shocked mildly which I found interesting as I literally just watched a recent murder. 

[Jannes]

2 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Trauma is a bitch. I’ve been ruthlessly studying it, living ’it, and now I’ve come face-to-face with how deeply pain and suffering have shaped me.

My ultra-conservative uncle once told me a story from his childhood, when he was ~5–7 years old. One night, after misbehaving, his mother pulled out a Bible and a large kitchen knife, held it to her child, and said: “If you don’t behave and follow the rules, I’ll slice your palm with this so you’ll learn your lesson.”

Decades later, he grew up to become a Bible study teacher.. preaching its stories while privately condemning and mocking anyone close to him who broke those corrupted rules.

I was one of his victims.

I haven’t spoken to him, or to those family members, in over five years. That’s when I began exploring who I am, outside of the rigid systems I was forced into. And for the past 1.5 years, I’ve been transitioning—something I knew in my bones as a child ~5–7 years old, but had no one safe to turn to back then.

Actualizing has saved me from spiraling into a life of complete misery. Had I stayed tied to those toxic dynamics, I could have been easily twisted into the same darkness we now see in this assassin, or in the countless mass shootings that scar us today.

Wow..

Good on you for opening up about this. 

[Jodistrict]

2 hours ago, Yimpa said:

Trauma is a bitch. I’ve been ruthlessly studying it, living ’it, and now I’ve come face-to-face with how deeply pain and suffering have shaped me.

My ultra-conservative uncle once told me a story from his childhood, when he was ~5–7 years old. One night, after misbehaving, his mother pulled out a Bible and a large kitchen knife, held it to her child, and said: “If you don’t behave and follow the rules, I’ll slice your palm with this so you’ll learn your lesson.”

Decades later, he grew up to become a Bible study teacher.. preaching its stories while privately condemning and mocking anyone close to him who broke those corrupted rules.

I was one of his victims.

I haven’t spoken to him, or to those family members, in over five years. That’s when I began exploring who I am, outside of the rigid systems I was forced into. And for the past 1.5 years, I’ve been transitioning—something I knew in my bones as a child ~5–7 years old, but had no one safe to turn to back then.

Actualizing has saved me from spiraling into a life of complete misery. Had I stayed tied to those toxic dynamics, I could have been easily twisted into the same darkness we now see in this assassin, or in the countless mass shootings that scar us today.

Trauma explains much of the right.   If you have seen videos of Alex Jones blowing up, it is obvious that he is demon possessed.  The rage inside of him is incredible.   The only difference between Jones and the Kirk sniper is that Jones has learned to channel the dark energy and use it to gain power.   The sniper was too young and couldn't control the rage and went off in one pop.  

[Apparition of Jack]

58 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

Trauma explains much of the right.   If you have seen videos of Alex Jones blowing up, it is obvious that he is demon possessed.  The rage inside of him is incredible.   The only difference between Jones and the Kirk sniper is that Jones has learned to channel the dark energy and use it to gain power.   The sniper was too young and couldn't control the rage and went off in one pop.  

America has basically been on one big trauma treadmill since 9/11. While I think too many conservatives are unhinged cookers, I also can’t help but feel like their insane brainrot is just a natural part of living in such a chaotic society. I do sorta feel bad for them.

[Hatfort]

10 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Leftists should learn to confront the right in civil debates, in a conquest of ideas. Not with sniper rifles or brat behaviour. Like Charlie Kirk or not but the reason he was so successful was because he had the courage to debate anyone, anywhere, anytime, in a civil, and humane manner. He was a man. He had balls. Something the left seem to have a lack of. 

Leftists sit on their high moral thrones thinking that Kirk or Trump are "dumb fascists". The left are out of their minds. When have you guys seen a leftist with as much courage and grit as Charlie had? I have huge respect for Charlie! He died with a microphone in his hands, because the leftists weren't man enough to confront him in a battle of ideas. How does the left expect to win elections if they are too weak and pathetic to debate a man one on one, without killing him? Who in their right mind votes for people that are unable to have a debate without crying "Fascist" "Nazi" "Mysoginist" ? As I said, the left is out of their minds.

For start there's more evidence pointing to the fact that Tyler Robinson was a rightwing Groyper than a leftist. The inscriptions of the bullets are video game references that he used to play online. His family is all MAGA right-wing, and there are pictures of him dressed as Pepe the frog or himself on Trump.

About leftists debating, Hasan Piker was scheduled to debate Charlie Kirk in a few days I think this month, that won't happen obviously. Destiny has been a debate-lord for ages. Cenk Uygur and Sam Seder have recently debated several right-wingers simultaneously in Jubilee. Many leftists have been on Morgan Pierce's shitty debate program, including the mentioned Piker and Uygur, and also Ana Kasparian, Owen Jones, and many other lesser-known, debating about the Palestinian conflict mostly.

So it's not like you paint it at all. What progressive leftists don't have is right-wing organizations funded by kleptocratic litch corporations pouring money into them like Charlie Kirk had for all his career, and others like Shapiro, Crowder, or Candace Owens have too. Leftists mostly aspire to get some revenue from YouTube and donations from Patreon subscribers. 

Edited yesterday at 09:16 AM by Hatfort