Why I'm Far-Right (and why I will never change)

[enchanted]

5 hours ago, Elliott said:

Point to the war on culture from the left.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/

https://youtube.com/@thedavidpakmanshow?si=v9XIqJsbXyTBXN94

https://youtube.com/@meidastouch?si=BvVR-i1V3bzruzgG

https://youtube.com/@theyoungturks?si=M69JBcCJ8vSdZKG-

https://www.msnbc.com/

You're still bringing up small pockets of the internet that does talk about politics in a somewhat constructive way. The majority of people don't and distract themselves with surface level culture wars. They go by gut feel and they get there info from Facebook. 

The left obviously did something wrong to lose do badly and the opinion of serious political left thinkers (like the resources you mentioned above and others like Ezra Klein, and others) is that the left lost the narrative. 

Edited Thursday at 02:27 PM by enchanted

[Elliott]

13 minutes ago, enchanted said:

You're still bringing up small pockets of the internet that does talk about politics in a somewhat constructive way. The majority of people don't and distract themselves with surface level culture wars. They go by gut feel and they get there info from Facebook. 

The left obviously did something wrong to lose do badly and the opinion of serious political left thinkers (like the resources you mentioned above and others like Ezra Klein, and others) is that the left lost the narrative. 

Point out a pocket then.

What's bigger than reddit or msnbc? Those are "small pockets" to you, no, you have a distorted sense of reality. I'm guessing you spend most of your time on the "alpha" political social media that talks about kids using liter boxes in schools.

Harris only lost the entire election from a few thousand votes in two states, with record inflation and a 100 day campaign.

Edited Thursday at 02:40 PM by Elliott

[Talinn]

I won't say much but this was one of the dumbest pictures I had to see. 

[Kid A]

1 hour ago, Talinn said:

I won't say much but this was one of the dumbest pictures I had to see. 

It makes flat earth seem genius in comparison. Incredible.

On 13.8.2025 at 8:12 PM, Spiral said:

I find that people who has strong complaints about feminism and such generally spend to much time on the internet, probably watch YouTube vids).

Bingo

[BlueOak]

You care too much what others think. Look inward yes, don't seek validation from strangers. Or try to relcaim it from women, the left, the government or anyone else, its a waste of time. You also like to label things to dismiss them and get annoyed when people do it to you. Example: Trump derangement syndrome to dismiss people who hate Trump by belittling their preferences, calling them deranged or ill, so you get that done back to you because you engage with that type of person and attract them.

Here i'll do it back to you - You have a mental illness for being right wing. What kind of engagement am I going to get back from that? What part of your personality or person am I going to attract or interact with?

I.... I...I... 

Defend the I. Defend the ego! Consume all your energy and time so that everyone loves you. 
I've a friend like this, only its about women. He gets into it with these girls and spends days of his life moaning and complaining about how they either try to control everything he does or freak out every five seconds or turn psycho. Life and I have finally talked him around. It took a couple of years. Now he's picking stable women to interact with and having mature relationships, with actual benefits and problems to talk about - not a soap opera every day.

I'm probably the most leftwing person on this forum, with maybe one exception, and i've no interest in almost anything you are talking about (in the bulk of the text, the initial cited topics could have been interesting). I wanted to tune out of the rant after about 2 sentences as irrelevant noise, from those you hate and yourself.

But America is also a fascist country now, with a dangerous leadership, so *shrug* don't hate the mirror, seek one you do want to see, or stop caring about it so much.
 

Edited Thursday at 09:09 PM by BlueOak

[Basman]

Your not far-right, giraffe. Your just pissed at the regressive side of really woke people and feminist cu***. Certain industries and institutions attract those kind of people. It is a mix of genuine ideology and concern trolling to get leverage over people. I've experienced 1st hand concern trolling to get petty revenge via HR with bogus claims. 

You got to differentiate between being politically liberal and being personally liberal. In my opinion, you should really be right-wing on a personal level but liberal on a political level. That is the best of both worlds. You get the fortitude and groundedness for dealing with life on a personal level and you get the vision to build a better society for tomorrow. 

You should really not get this miffed about these whiny woke cu***, really. You should have goals to work towards if you are a proper conservative. The core of the beliefs of wokies are true and correct, or at least well intentioned. 

[Basman]

2 hours ago, Talinn said:

I won't say much but this was one of the dumbest pictures I had to see. 

 

[Daniel Balan]

The left needs a ton more criticism than what you did at the beggining of this thread. One can write a political manifesto against the foolishness of the left. HOWEVER, if the left needs a ton of criticism, the right needs like 10 thousands tons of criticism. 

You don't appreciate how disfunctional and insane the right is. Those fools don't believe in basic science. To them the government is like running a shopping mall. Utterly stupid political framework. But the left is to a less degree equally stupid for being too idealistic and utopian. 

You should adopt more centrist views. Both the right and left have really big flaws, although the right's flaws are bigger. You should visit 3rd wolrd countries to see what is life for the people being rulled by the conservative right wing. 

But what's your beef with Leo? Why you refuse to call him by his name, instead you use the eufemism " the bald man". I'm watching Leo since 2014 and right now he is pretty centrist. Sometimes he gives me right wing vibes of how much his politics have changed towards the centre right in the last decade.

[Joshe]

2 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

But the left is to a less degree equally stupid for being too idealistic and utopian. 

The left you’re talking about is a minority faction (Twitter left, activist left, progressives), not the bulk of the left. The right you’re talking about is the bulk of the right. 

It’s a mistake to critique the far-left minority as if it represents the whole, and then contrast that to a critique of the right, because the right is far more ideologically uniform in its conservatism.

The mistake is comparing a fringe characteristic in one group to a core characteristic in the other, making it seem like the two traits are equally representative when they’re not.

Leo makes this same mistake as well. 

Also, “bald guy” was meant as slur, not euphemism. He gets to avoid giving Leo the dignity of using his name, at the same time reducing him to a slur. OP has a lot of pent up hatred that he will, one of these days, need to let go. 

Edited yesterday at 04:21 PM by Joshe

[Daniel Balan]

Bro you are simply not right. From a governing perspective, the center right is more helpful for the economy than the center left is. The moderate right has somewhat logical and practical ways in regards to dealing with the economy, but the further right you go, the more the right treats economy the way a business man treats his shopping mall. Center left with its Social Democracy its pushing deficit spending through the roof while also providing average ass government programs. How does it happen that even in the most established social democracies people when they have an illness they opt to get a surgery or advanced treatment in a private clinic rather than in the public health care system? Although I am a big advocate for public healthcare for all, the government provided healthcare provides average healthcare. The schooling system is similar. Although I also advocate for free schooling for all, I am also aware that public schooling is inferior to private schooling. I've been educated via free public schooling and honestly I haven't gotten any value from it. All the education I have right now I obtained mostly via self education. I've read a lot of books on various subjects since I was 5 years old. If I solely relied on the education the public schooling gave me I'd be a stage red illiterate redneck.

Socially the center left is far more beneficial than the center right. I'd take Woke Culture and Feminism any day of the week over Christian traditionalism. I came to the conclusion that the right's positions on social issues are caveman policies. All the right wants to do in regards to social issues is to maintain backward social hierarchies while staunchly defending the status quo. I'd bring to the attention of everyone that criticizes wokeness and feminism that those movements happened as a reaction to the brutal domineering behavior of the traditional patriarchal system. Wokeness is right when it comes to racism, to sexism and misogyny. You guys only hate Woke when it benefits you. If you were born a woman in a 3rd world nation getting her daily beatings and slave treatments from her husband, you'd appreciate why Woke and Feminism exists. Only when you are woman who can't even work a job without men constantly nagging her for sex and being constantly belittled and made fun of by men at the workplace, then you would understand why Woke and Feminism exists. Also about racism, I'm a white Romanian male but I swear I'd metaphorically punch in the mouth any Dutchman, British, Belgian, German, Spanish, Portuguese,  or French dude complaining about affirmative action. The ancestors of the aforementioned have colonized and enslaved basically the entire globe, yet they have the nerve of bitching about blacks or Muslims or Asians or Indians getting fair job opportunities. Ludicrous behavior. You cry about affirmative action and immigrants, yet when the aforementioned enslaved Africa and the Middle East and The Americas and Indochina and India etc. Their resources were good? All that slave labor was good? All the iron ore that was extracted to build your cities was useful?? Right now I'm only allowing complaining about immigrants from people whose country hasn't had colonies. 

As I said both the right and the left have their pros and cons. Honestly the moderate right is much better at handling economies because it is more grounded in reality. The Left and the moderate left is too utopian and idealistic to understand proper economy. But in regards to social aspects, the right in my eyes loses on all fronts in comparison with the left. 

I like both political philosophies. The right political philosophy is very beneficial for the individual. It says that the individual must work hard and continuously evolve and seek progress via his own mental and physical capacities, which I totally agree with. Whereas the left wants the government to be their daddy. This is totally wrong philosophy. Government shouldn't spoon feed anybody. The people who expect government to wipe their ass are the biggest losers. Government should offer basic schooling, average healthcare, fire department, army, social security only for the ones who truly need it to survive, state-of-the-art court system, state-of-the-art police etc. Anything else the individual must channel effort and achieve the things it desires via hard work and personal ambition. Government is here to afford a fair playing ground for all. To ensure everybody plays by the same rules. 

Edited 22 hours ago by Daniel Balan

[Joshe]

You’re still conflating a fringe minority with the majority - the same point you ignored before. Most people on the left aren’t like what you describe, so at least consider what I’m saying for 1 minute.

Edited 20 hours ago by Joshe

[Emerald]

What I'm hearing as the underlying subtext of this post is that you believe that the acknowledgement of large-scale societal patterns that disadvantage certain demographics invalidates and nullifies the importance of your own struggles because you happen to belong to many of the non-disadvantaged groups.

And you feel upset because you believe your struggles and hardships are being invalidated.

I used to have this same issue when I was in my late teens and up to around the age of 21 or 22.

I had a really strong identity of being someone who has struggled but still came out on top... and (in my mind) the struggle is what made my victory meaningful. And I saw myself and wanted to be seen as a hardworking person that could always pull myself up by my bootstraps and be successful at what I intend to... even if I'm in total chaos.

And this especially peaked during a time where I was technically homeless. And I would think, "I'm going through all this hardship... and yet I have white privilege." I didn't understand what White Privilege meant at the time, so I found it to be offensive as I was really going through the ringer.

And I held the same idea of, "Why do we focus so much on race and gender? I thought we were supposed to be operating in an egalitarian way! So, let's ACTUALLY treat people equally."

But then, my identity and paradigm shifted. And I eventually realized that I was being myopic and didn't have space to integrate the macrocosmic picture int my worldview... because I perceived it as antithetical to my identity of being "the strong person who can thrive during times of struggle".

And if I had white privilege, I felt like it nullified the validity of the struggles that I saw as central to my identity. And I had to be the one that uniquely struggled more than others to feel like my achievements were meaningful, as I saw life as one big competition to prove one's grit and toughness and willingness to do hard work under duress.

But then, after I had failed to live up to that identity through a great and terrible humbling... my identity and worldview and sense of meaning shifted. In the humbling, I recognized how economic societal factors were acting as this oppressive force that I wasn't able to surmount and prove myself victorious... and it occurred to me that there are so many invisible societal patterns that can delimit people's ability to be resilient. 

And I recognized that the only reason I was able to be resilient during chaos is because (up until that point in time when I was 20) the chaos was mild enough for me to surmount.

And in that great and terrible humbling and loss of my high horse identity of being "the one who struggled but surmounted the struggle without ANY help", realized that I was being petty and un-compassionate in my perspective. And because of that, I was cutting myself off from being empathetic to the lived experiences of people who are disadvantaged on a collective level. And it was preventing me from seeing the ways of the world with clear eyes.

And it also caused me to repress a lot of my internalized misogyny because I was holding tightly onto the idea that "Everything is already equal. So, we should just act that way. So, women shouldn't get special privileges because of the history." I was very anti-Feminist as a late teen up until around the age of 22 when I started reading Feminist literature.

Ultimately, in my anti-Feminism and in my refusal to acknowledge macrocosmic patterns of racism... I was avoiding the ugly truths that I am not and will likely never be seen as equal as a woman... and that I do have privilege because I am white.

Both of these were hard pills to swallow for totally different reasons. I wanted to see myself as a victim... but I didn't actually want to be one.

And in the realities that I was facing, I could no longer get the social clout of being the victimized that triumphed through hard work. But I had to face the assault on personal empowerment that actually comes from struggling with the psychological effects of being on the receiving end of oppression... a reality that I spent my entire life up until that trying not to acknowledge by proving myself.

And these were also hard to see because I wanted to believe that the game I was playing was already fair. And if the game isn't fair in a way that disenfranchises me, there's no way to win the game... which is disempowering. And if the game isn't fair in a way that privileges me, then I haven't won the game fairly and the prestige means nothing... which means I can't build empowering identities off of my victories.

It was only when I was willing to let go of the identity of struggle (a hidden form of victim's mentality, presenting itself as victor's mentality) that I could really have compassion for other people and see clearly. I wasn't able to see it before because I was trying to preserve my identity and the worldview my identity scaffolded upon... which already assumed everything equal and to be on a fair playing field.

Edited 19 hours ago by Emerald

[sholomar]

 

[BlueOak]

@Emerald

If it helps. Equal doesn't mean the same.

You are equal to me. You can't lift what I lift, you can't face down a larger intruder running on testosterone despite being injured, or work 70 hours a week to impress most of your potential husbands with your results, discipline, and dedication to providing or securing the family.

But you can have the emotional nuance to put together a deeply heartfelt introspective post tailored to the person you are speaking with, as a rule a woman can be deeply nurturing to their children, and soften harsh male perspectives into outcomes that don't result in force or violence. (Big argument to never get rid of the female vote btw)

I've chosen very different areas there to hopefully reinforce that.

You are completely right though, life is never fair :). 

All the best.



 

Edited 13 hours ago by BlueOak

[Chadders]

@SwiftQuill Sounds like you’ve had a lot of stuff to get off your chest. Breath brother

I do not like political labels but I would say I’m on the left. I also don’t like  to indulge in identity politics though of course I respect how people want to identify. I am aware of the debates and issues there and have views but they just don’t interest me like economics do. Excessive materialistic capitalism is perpetuating greed and dysfunction in the world - this is what I care about changing

At a meta level politics is fundamentally missing the spiritual dimension. To be honest I’m starting to grow weary of democracy. I don’t believe society to be mature enough for it to work effectively. I discovered noocracy recently this is what we need

[Raphael]

You lack nuances.

[Jacob Morres]

im priveleged as an american in some sense, because my parents have money. i have certain degree of socioeconomic privilege that most people dont have (it's not CRAZY but it's an advantage for sure)

that being said, white is also privelege in its own sense. comes with better treatment from others, more trust from others, a degree of increased access to opportunity, less racist vitriol, less stereotypes etc.that doesnt mean you dont have a hard life. maybe you cant access certain privileges, due to your specific circumstance. but theres definietely a certain privilege that comes with being white. this is well studied (not just around being white. things like zipcode & IQ for example are also heavily correlated with success)

> Seeing rainbow LGBTQ+ flags plastered around companies 

progress as well, it's showing support for a historically and currently discriminated group. in america gay people didnt even have rights to marriage until 2015 btw, very recent lol. they still face a lot of discrimination, maybe half the country doesnt even like them. 

> and seeing Disney writers and producers calling anyone who dislikes their movies "racist", I don't call that progress

probably an overcorrection, but there are people that genuinely don't like the movies because the lead is black or the main character is gay lol. it's def a reoccurring theme ive seen go viral on X

Edited 3 hours ago by Jacob Morres

[carterfelder]

Good to see you on here, sir. I can't even post Tim Pool on here, not that I'm protesting the forum rules. I can relate more to folks who take psychedelics than those who don't.

I considered myself an "anarchist" once I started questioning things with the help of the Internets. I was probably 14 or 15. I "hated" the cops. In my mid-to-late twenties I became vegan and fell for the neo-racist, white-self-hating, you-must-feel-guilty-for-being-white propaganda. It was mostly because I was deep in my empathic self, wanting to defend who I thought were "vulnerable." But once I started questioning things, especially with the help of online influencers who had the cojones to do it, I went from, "really mom and dad, you bought a Trump hat?" in 2015, to now, with two Trump hats displayed on my living room shelves, right next to Buddha, Jesus, the Trimurti, and Mary.

Edited 2 hours ago by carterfelder

[Joshe]

16 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

But once I started questioning things, especially with the help of online influencers who had the cojones to do it, I went from, "really mom and dad, you bought a Trump hat?" in 2015, to now, with two Trump hats displayed on my living room shelves, right next to Buddha, Jesus, the Trimurti, and Mary.

Why would you place a symbol of such a hateful man right next to symbols of loving saints? Seems like cult idol worship. 

Normal people don't plaster their living space with political figure merch, and they sure as hell don't put it on a pedestal with saints. 

[carterfelder]

The enlightened are anomalies.