OBEler

Women have wildly different interests than men

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13 minutes ago, OBEler said:

\I have right now not much female girlfriends because I have a girlfriend and a full-time job so not much time.I am a little bit older than most people here. In my age as a man that's pretty normal. You are coming up with wild conclusions about me, you don't know my life experience. You don't understand that I was young too and had plenty of experiences with women already.

How you behave here is not what an open mind looks like for me.

Thats true I was making some assumptions. These were based on your previous answers also. But you must admit if you don't currently have the experience of many women close to you - you can fall into myopic attitudes due to the atrophy of experience. Easy to forget experience if you are replacing it with hearsay. Humans never remember things properly. Myself included.

13 minutes ago, OBEler said:

What you do right now is mixing my answers in different contexts.

Respectfully disagree as this whole conversation is a narrative and IS the context in its entirety. I have noticed you read each users post separately. What I am picking up on is the common thread through ALL your posts.

You effectively played your hand here.

You haven't even acknowledged the entire thread of actualizers presenting alternatives and even Leo himself warning you of the wild generalizations you have presented.

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Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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58 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

In red - you are speaking to another man, not a boy, yeah? That is a man.

Did he idealize women? I thought he was presenting counters to your argument. He never said women couldn't be grifters/exploiters. And they can be.

I am more challenging you to see that you are misappropriating traits to genders. People are just dickheads really - case closed.

It's fine to generalize - but most of your conclusions are misappropriated AND show negative bias, which, I suspect, is why @theleelajoker raised positive. To bring balance. Saying 'I love women' isn't some get out of jail free card.

The guys here are bringing up stories from direct experience, and you did acknowledge you don't have many female friends/acquaintances. I think we can all agree experience trumps any 'theory' or hearsay. 

Most especially, if you want to see the 'truth' of woman, you cannot be having just shallow surfacy interactions and lack of variety of experience. You also need depth and variety of connection to hit closer to the truth. @theleelajoker provided his experience there. 

@Natasha Tori Maru I think it's a hopeless case. You can see where I am pointing at, he can't. He won't.  Because he doesn't want to. 

He reminds me of this here :D

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So I am done expanding energy here.  For other readers, they can form their own opinion. 

 

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@Natasha Tori Maru well I explain it to you in more detail:

someone here told me I have too much negativity, he has just positive experiences, go on street see women as positive and it's just the mind. I told himthe same thing he says can be seen in another way, gave him then an counter example of going to street and see women as grifters instead of positive beings

You must understand that I said that women are grifters in an counter example to seeing women as positive. I even included men, too. 

 Telling me that I speak negative about women because of this is therefore out of context.

 

 

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1 minute ago, OBEler said:

someone here told me I have too much negativity,

I didn't tell you that xD:P


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@theleelajoker I know exactly what you are pointing to, but what I was  pointing to you, you didn't. Again, it needs some ambivalence. A boy cannot handle ambivalence.

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2 minutes ago, OBEler said:

You must understand that I said that women are grifters in an counter example to seeing women as positive. I even included men, too

@theleelajoker didn't say women only have good qualities. You assumed he saw only positives.

You never included men. Re-read the statement in your post.

I consider that retracting the statement if you are being genuine.


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@theleelajoker Agree, unstoppable force and immovable object >.<


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@OBEler Ah right, gotcha I see I missed this - thank you

 


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@OBEler At the end of the day, I think people are confused about the generalizations you're making.

Some of them seem quite off and over simplified. Which of course acts as a trigger and brings people in.

But then I asked you about men! And brought out similar type generalizations for them too. I am not sure how seriously you actually take all of them. 

But making statements that seem obviously incorrect to other folks or maybe even controversial. Does bring out the pitchforks and opens the door to projection. The issue is we don't actually know what's going on inside you.

Does this whole thing not really matter much to you?! I'm not sure! Maybe it really just isn't that deep.

You've given examples of the negatives of both genders, but your ones on females do seem to more prominent. And again, some of the quite off and oversimplified. Which of course, brings out the pitchforks. And I'm not saying they're invalid because there's loads of women slander here. A lot of the guys doing it match a similar profile.. they have lady issues. It's easy to see a similar thing and transfer this to you.

But is this you? Do you really have issues with women? Or is it just the structure, the overgeneralizing at play that's causing it all. I'm not sure man. That one's really on you to figure out! And only really you can know/figure out. But I would consider not brushing it off 100%  Give the mirror at least a little look, could something really be there? Let me just make sure. Just to be safe, to be through.


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@Puer Aeternus my generalizations are half baked and not perfect I know that. I got already some good criticism on that.

What people see in me are their own projections, I never had any issues with women. I just see it as necessary to focus on their behavior because on this world half of mankind are women. It is seen in society that focussing on yourself is not a good behavior. I don't see that as negative but people here do. I just make observations. Reread again and see what I wrote on my first post. I never judged women about their solipsistic behavior.

Of course calling women as grifters is a negative one but I said that as an counterexample. People here putting me out of context.

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On 10/08/2025 at 10:49 AM, OBEler said:

Disclaimer: just my observation. I love women. To men reading this thread: You don't need to protect women here, let's just discuss which observation is correct. This thread is about showing the true face of women.To women reading this thread: I know you are a special snowflake but we talk about the general women out there.

 

People can say through history womens voices and interests were suppressed but for first time in history through the Internet women can do whatever they want and show their true face.

So while men love to engage in topics just for the sake of it like politics, history, tech, ki, UFOs, games women are rarely interested in these. 

This is what a typical woman podcast looks like:

https://youtu.be/OBhchAb3x0s?si=TK--M6Nte_xBG8xx

This is how women talk about tech stuff:

https://womeninrobotics.org/news/

They are celebrating themselves. They are not really interested in robotics, more like what can robotics do for themselves (getting a job, connect etc). Have a look for yourself.

Forums are an invention of men. Women don't like these because it's about looking for truth and they don't care about these idealistic things. Women are mostly pragmatic and their thoughts are about personal stuff and feelings rather than about abstract things.

I know for many people what I say here is common sense but for me it is still always shocking to see how different men and women behave. 

i think it largely depends on the specific demographic of women you're sampling. 

personally, the videos you linked aren't content i would consume on a regular basis, i wouldn't find it particularly valuable or worthwhile. and from time to time i love a good documentary about black holes.

i have a friend who is a doctor and who is also really interested in music. 90% of her female friends are doctors and i imagine most of them wouldn't find the videos you linked above appealing. another friend of mine is really interested in literature and the media. so this really depends on the person, individual upbringing, and god knows what else. 

making personal interests a matter of gender vastly oversimplifies us. of course there are some general trends, but there are so many other factors involved.

11 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

It's not a tactic, it's not in secret and we aren't afraid of being exploited in this way. You've totally interpreted what I've said in your own way. I'm saying I don't think the few women on here will go up against a male-dominated forum to start topics about what we don't like about men simply because we're not angry at men enough to do that and smart women don't go up against men in that way.  It's not like we're pm-ing each other in secret about what we don't like about men and we're definitely not worried about the men on here exploiting us for our opinions about men. (this is just my opinion from what I've observed about the active women on here and not a fact, just an intelligent guess and could be wrong; so bear that in mind)

You have to realize I'm referring to a certain category of women, more on the intelligent side, also more feminine and less confrontational. I can be confrontational, but it's usually to stand up for myself after being personally attacked or when I'm being misunderstood and that's a personality issue not a gender issue. Women of a certain breed won't find too many general things to dislike about men but only in their personal relationships. If a man does something to her personally. She'll vent on that most likely and not draw every man into the equation. 

I'm not saying there aren't general things these types of women don't like about men, but it's not worth starting topics about on a male-dominated forum just to get rebutted and bring out defense mechanisms when it's nothing personal for her. 

Do you agree @Natasha Tori Maru @Emerald @Sugarcoat @Judy2. Just to get a feel of what I'm saying is a shared opinion and not just speaking for myself. I could be wrong. This is just my take.

i haven't followed the whole conversation so maybe my view on what's been said isn't entirely accurate.

that being said, i agree that when i want to discuss men on here, it's usually about individual men and their behaviour, rather than men as a collective group without making any further distinctions...because there are often so many other important factors involved that determine an individual's behaviour, other than their sex/gender...if i run into problems with men i tend to think of them as individual problems and usually a matter of how mature/immature both participants in that conflict are, and i don't make it about all men on this planet. maybe i should lol.

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22 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Puer Aeternus my generalizations are half baked and not perfect I know that. I got already some good criticism on that.

Nice 👍🏻

23 minutes ago, OBEler said:

What people see in me are their own projections, I never had any issues with women. I just see it as necessary to focus on their behavior because on this world half of mankind are women. It is seen in society that focussing on yourself is not a good behavior. I don't see that as negative but people here do. I just make observations. Reread again and see what I wrote on my first post. I never judged women about their solipsistic behavior.

Of course calling women as grifters is a negative one but I said that as an counterexample. People here putting me out of context.

Folks are definitely projecting. The way you go about laying things out and explaining definitely does make it seem like there's negative views implicitly held from the outside looking in. Triggers aren't happening for no reason!

But at the end of the day, you're the one who can really know what's up and going on inside! I certainly see the implicitness other people are seeing and am still a bit skeptical still because of it, but I can definitely see what you're saying here too. Ultimately I just don't really know! 


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This forum is tainted with red pill ideology. I’ve fed this before as well and am in the process of letting this belief system go. This is ultimately a self sabotaging belief system if you plan to have a long term relationship with a woman and enjoy your life together. I am definitely not saying to go into blind hope when it comes to navigating the reality of the different needs we have and finding harmony in that. You are not growing by hyper studying unfairnesses and differences between men and women. You’re creating a self fulfilling prophecy that your ego/inner child will use to find evidence for why it wants to grind an axe. 

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@Puer Aeternus I was aware even before starting this thread about the projections which might come therefore I wrote a disclaimer. And I made it clear that it is just an observation.

People cannot grasp that making an observation can come from a neutral, curious perspective. I wrote these observations down in a neutral way Because I really was neutral. No judging. Open to critics. 

If people here get offended because they automatically project negativity on my neutral observations, which may destroy their idealistic image of a woman, then I cannot help. Or they skipped my disclaimer and judged quickly, making wild personal conclusions about me without knowing me at all. Putting me out of context etc. 

Overall People on this forum are not really so developed as they think they are. So negative reactions about a loaded topic like this are not totally preventable. I mean try it out for yourself, go to another forum and share your observations about women. Let's see what happens.

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5 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

This forum is tainted with red pill ideology. This is ultimately a self sabotaging belief system if you plan to have a long term relationship with a woman and enjoy your life together. I am definitely not saying to go into blind hope when it comes to navigating the reality of the different needs we have and finding harmony in that. You are not growing by hyper studying unfairnesses and differences between men and women. You’re creating a self fulfilling prophecy that your ego/inner child will use to find evidence for why it wants to grind an axe. 

I share observations and instead of invalidate them you put a huge amount of loaded projections onto that.

What does it matter if these observations may be also observations from red pillers or whatever? They can be still true.

What has an observation to do with my relationship? What do you wildly assume here? An observation can still hold truth regardless of anything of the consequences.

What is here exactly unfairness? 

You put a whole baggage onto that topic. If you want to criticize my generalizations, please put your assumptions and projections away and try to address exactly what's the point.

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3 minutes ago, OBEler said:

I share observations and instead of invalidate them you put a huge amount of loaded projections onto that.

You are not fooling me here. And I can tell there are a number of other people here that can see through your defense system here. When you wish to be more honest you can make another thread and we can discuss all the unfairness you dislike and help you make peace with them. 

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@Lyubov you are fooling yourself, you try to see something in me which I am not. You think that a solipsistic behavior is something negative, which is not. You try to categorize my observations immediately into red pill content, which might be true but that doesn't make the observations untruthful. That way you cannot see neutral on that topic, you are just biased.

Again, just adress the observations directly in a neutral way, I am open for criticism. But please don't behave like a hero who wants to protect women because of "unfairness".

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@OBEler My issue with comments and posts like these is that I’m not entirely sure what’s meant to be said or implied.

For example, the initial post clearly nitpicked the worst examples of women in podcasting and science (if you genuinely want to look, you’ll find plenty of quality female podcasts and scientists). So, I’m not sure what the original intent was here. Are we implying that women are incapable of intelligent pursuits?

A similar issue arises with the claim that women are dramatic. It was debunked by showing how both men and women can be equally dramatic in their own ways above. Was the original intent to say that women are too emotional or dramatic to think rationally? If so, has the opinion changed now?

I’d like to understand the subconscious and background implications being placed on both genders from you here.


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@Xonas Pitfall no my intention was to show how different women really are compared to men. Again, differences are nothing negative per se but the narrative goes that we are so equal - which we are not - and any difference pointing out is just not taking seriously. But we should understand the differences.

I assumed it is common sense how different the genders are , what I wanted to point out how radical different we are in pursuing topics and that it is not just an observation on real world but especially on the Internet if I searching for podcasts between women or generell content produced by women. My observations were that they really have almost no interest outside their personal stuff. This is a big generalization amongst women so I am aware that there are some outsiders. During the discussion I recognized that many men behave the same way, that they are just interested in their own stuff so it might be less about gender and more about personality types. The Internet, YouTube, is full of intps who also have the drive to create content so it's a bit biased.

 

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