Women have wildly different interests than men

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 hours ago, Alexop said:

No, those are your projections onto me, I never said that. We talk about men now. Men had the protectors provider role for millions of years, we have to figure out how we can forge them into maturity in our "artificial" environment we live now.

What is this 'artificial' environment? 

Is this something only men experience? This artificial thing? 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 hours ago, OBEler said:

So this is penis in use?

 

It could be that penis is linked to desire on a whole different scale than women. The desire to survive etc. but that's a strong generalization I make here.

An example with editing to create a spin - we cannot know the truth from this. It is another example of hearsay / bias with no direct experience.

And yes totally I think the penis is 100% linked to desire for survival - it's main job is to ensure the perpetuation of genetics into the next generation. Powerful force of creation and drive. 

My overall point was as @Xonas Pitfall raised - mens carnivorous sex drive acts to obscure understanding of women in some ways. 

Much like when you have a bunch of women on the forums completely unable to understand the issues of men being unable to access sex, and the preoccupation with the endeavour. Very hard to understand the opposite sex through the lens of the other.

Which is why I think generalisation about gender tend to be more accurate when it is a man generalising men, a women generalising women. 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Adding to the below that I think a blend of both genders perspectives on the other would be more accurate. We are often blind to our own behaviour - so mens perspective on women is an asset. But both need to be considered if you really want to dig at the truth of it. 

To clarify I was adding in that women's perspective on women cannot be discarded.

16 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Which is why I think generalisation about gender tend to be more accurate when it is a man generalising men, a women generalising women.

 

[theleelajoker]

27 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Adding to the below that I think a blend of both genders perspectives on the other would be more accurate. We are often blind to our own behaviour - so mens perspective on women is an asset. But both need to be considered if you really want to dig at the truth of it. 

To clarify I was adding in that women's perspective on women cannot be discarded.

 

Bold marked by me.

I already said it once in another discussion - women's perspective on other women they are not emotionally connected to have been incredibly valuable for me.

Recently I told a story, a female friend commented and I had to pause for a few seconds because it felt that she hit bullseye with minimal information, minimal time and without knowing the other woman 

Some male friends had great input too. But it seems that - at least re hetero guys - that it's hard to exclude the sexual perspective on women the way woman can do it re other women. Which brings us back to thinking with the dick...

Edited 2 hours ago by theleelajoker

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@theleelajoker yes I think you are a prime example of a masculine male who has good, healthy connection to women in their life that isn't a sexual based relationship! From what you have described 

I think the cock getting in the way is similar to emotions getting in the way for women.

[theleelajoker]

Just now, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@theleelajoker yes I think you are a prime example of a masculine male who has good, healthy connection to women in their life that isn't a sexual based relationship! From what you have described 

I think the cock getting in the way is similar to emotions getting in the way for women.

Thanks. My theory is having good relationship with my sister is the main reason. 

So I learned from the start how to separate sexual interest and all other interests (exchange, connecting, learning,...) you can pursue with a woman. 

Doesn't mean I don't think with my dick sometimes too but less then many of my friends