Women have wildly different interests than men

[UnbornTao]

9 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Puer Aeternus We love battlefield 6

[Xonas Pitfall]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

We don't like drama.

I don't knooooow... War, weapons, shootings, violence, street and bar fights, rape, murder, and domestic abuse are quite dramatic... 

 

[Puer Aeternus]

2 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Puer Aeternus core: we love games, we love women, we love technology. We have respect for great things. We acknowledge that. We are not insecure, we know that we have power and it's not someone's else guilt - we don't play the victim card. We recognize the weakness women have so we never hit them. We love facts and information, not talking around the bush. We are creators and more active than passive in doing things. Looking for help is more difficult for us. We are curious, we can forgive. We don't like drama.

 

I think I actually understand it now?
I think my biggest beef with you is the generalizations. I've just seen you make them about women and got triggered.
But really they're just there across the board! 
Cause I 100% know a shit ton of men with wild variations on all these listed traits. Maybe some are more heavily in favor of men than others but like..

Not being insecure? Knowing we have power? Not playing the victim? Being able to forgive? Even the loving facts and information bit. Even the whole not liking drama bit too!  I'm feeling quite 50/50 on in. I definitely see a lot of it but also not a lot for many of them.

[OBEler]

@Puer Aeternus

21 minutes ago, Puer Aeternus said:

 

Well thats interesting how you see that differently. Maybe I am from another generation or maybe it's a cultural thing? Or maybe your brain is wired differently. My list is surely not perfect.

I hope more people here can clarify.

[Xonas Pitfall]

7 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

It's something I've contemplated in my sexual fantasies; the smaller I feel, the more life crushes me, the more I fantasize about feminine girls.
The emptier I am, the more "masculine" they will be.

@Schizophonia This sounds so interesting! Do you know why?

1. Are you essentially saying that the weaker or smaller you feel, the more you want feminine girls (girls who are also weaker, smaller, cuter, passive, and innocent)?
2. What does "being empty" mean here?

I like your reflectiveness and honesty.

Edited 22 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall

[OBEler]

6 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

I don't knooooow... War, weapons, shootings, violence, street and bar fights, rape, murder, and domestic abuse are quite dramatic... 

 

They are dramatic but not drama.  Do we scream in a high pitch voice about that and throw things out of the window just to let everyone know about our feelings?

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, OBEler said:

They are dramatic but not drama.  Do we scream in a high pitch voice about that and throw things out of the window just to let everyone know about our feelings?

That's just a different expression. Men express differently the same kind of feelings. Saying high-pitch voice seems like a personal thing because men don't normally have high-pitched voices by default so it's usually high-pitched in women. What's the difference in saying men Holla in deep pitched voices and stab and shoot each other just to let everyone know their feelings. Or shoot up schools and bars. C'mon, stop picking on the natural tone of women's voices.

[Xonas Pitfall]

32 minutes ago, OBEler said:

They are dramatic but not drama.  Do we scream in a high pitch voice about that and throw things out of the window just to let everyone know about our feelings?

You don’t throw things out of the window to let people know how you feel. Instead, you pick up an AK-47 and commit a school shooting, murdering countless innocent lives to express your emotions of loneliness and anger. You don’t throw things out of the window to get attention; instead, you wait for your partner to come home and beat them up after getting drunk on alcohol to show your displeasure with their behavior and overall relationship. You don’t throw things out of the window to let people know how you feel. Instead, you bottle it up and rage in silence until you snap, taking it out on a random person during a street fight. You don’t throw things out of the window to let people know how you feel. You find a random scared girl, rape her, stalk her, just because she didn’t respond to your Snapchat, left you on read, or ignored your advances.

All pretty drama-llama too, haha. Men are extremely drama-prone, too.

At its core, drama is about overreacting to emotions and displaying them for others. These extreme examples are both damaging and dramatic, fitting the definition of drama itself.

What does drama mean to you?

Try to define drama without associating it with feminine connotations. Drama is not just when you scream in high-pitched voices and cry like a woman.

It’s the same as if I defined beauty as: when you are captivating like a woman. That’s a stupid definition. Men can also be beautiful. Beauty extends beyond gender, and so does drama. So, what is drama?

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They are dramatic but not drama.

Also, what does this sentence even mean?

Edited 22 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall

[Jirh]

Are you actually open to changing your mind on this topic, or you are simply looking for someone to validate your feelings?

[OBEler]

@Xonas Pitfall

Dramatic is described as something sad happened. Drama is overreacting.

Yes men have their own way to express drama. Yeah I haven't seen that way, nevertheless men and women express drama radical different.

 

1 hour ago, Puer Aeternus said:

 

 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by OBEler

[Rishabh R]

@OBEler Not all the men are the same. Some are introvert, some are extrovert while some are in the middle. Also, genetics play a role.

Every woman is different. Not all are like that. I was hurt by few women in the past to the point where I have the pain till date but few other women liked me for who I am. It is possible that I am not looking the past in a holistic manner and not considering my full past but cherry picking events from the past.

However, I writing this not to defend women as women can do awful things too just as men  can do it.

 

[OBEler]

@Rishabh R

If you see everyone as different you miss the deeper underlying patterns and forces which triggers common behavior patterns in groups with similar wired brains.

1 hour ago, Puer Aeternus said:

 

 

[Rishabh R]

@OBEler Let's take an example. All men are attracted to women which is common as we are biologically wired for it. But how come some men form relationships with women earlier in life while some men form it later in life.

Some men have their career life handled but don't have their social life and personal life in place. Biologically men are same but personality and also upbringing ,past conditioning as well as psychological factors also play a role.

Edited 22 hours ago by Rishabh R

[OBEler]

@Rishabh R do you really think I don't know that?

Again read my previous post. I concentrate on the deeper patterns in groups with similar wired brains. 

If you say ok everyone is so total different because of their culture, their genetic, their hormones, their lifestyle so making generalizations are meaningless to discuss I think you see then reality in a very distorted way. Because these patterns are used in politics and marketing and they work very well. You cannot dismiss these by just looking at how different we are. You cannot turn off these are wired patterns. They exist and deep inside you you even know that you are just too unconscious to recognize that.

Edited 21 hours ago by OBEler

[Rishabh R]

@OBEler I know that you know that but I am just telling you to consider the holistic nature of the gender.

[Xonas Pitfall]

47 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Xonas Pitfall

Dramatic is described as something sad happened. Drama is overreacting.

Yes men have their own way to express drama. Yeah I haven't seen that way, nevertheless men and women express drama radical different.

The issue is that men often use the argument "women are more dramatic" to invalidate women and claim that men are more rational, less emotional, and more in control of their emotional responses. However, evidence absolutely does not support this. Both genders can be just as dramatic, irrational, and led by their egos and emotions in their own way.

Hope the expanded perspective helps with that! 

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Dramatic is described as something sad happened. Drama is overreacting.

I don’t think that definition is true colloquially either. We often call people dramatic when they’re overreacting, acting like drama queens. Plus, the male examples of "dramatic" above aren’t 'sad.' Most are emotionally charged, brutal, damaging, harmful, or driven by a need for attention and validation.

Edited 21 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall

[Puer Aeternus]

32 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Rishabh R

If you see everyone as different you miss the deeper underlying patterns and forces which triggers common behavior patterns in groups with similar wired brains.

 

Yep, but why not have both sides? Be open minded, have ideas in the back of your head but be cautious with them. Wait to see if they apply or not from experience with that person. If they do fit, then you've got a mostly useful shortcut. 

On the other side if you've got an overgeneralizing tendency, you just put someone in a box immediately and without necessarily intending to. Sometimes it'll be right, sometimes not. And can cause frustration/tension when you're thinking/acting/maybe even telling someone that they're a way, but this clashes with the reality of who they actually are. Then it can become confusing to crawl out of that assumption. 

[OBEler]

@Puer Aeternus absolutely and what you describe is common sense to me.

But here in this thread I wanted to focus more on the differences. Because that's also interesting to see and you can get a lot of insight.

Overgeneralizing can be harmful but I don't see overgeneralizing by just making differences between genders and acknowledging at the same time that these generalizations only fit to a certain degree and can change over time.

Edited 21 hours ago by OBEler

[Princess Arabia]

Seems like @OBEler wants women to be men and men to stay as men. Embrace the differences. Both are similar and different. The heading of the thread alone, especially with the use of the word "wildly", seems to suggests a problem with the difference in interests. If men and women were the same expressions, that itself would be problematic for the balancing of life itself. Both generally balances each other out. Seems like there's a problem there integrating your feminine side but I leave that part for @Emeraldto tackle. She can speak on that more diplomatically and I'm also curious to see if she feels this way about it too. 

[Leo Gura]

10 hours ago, OBEler said:

Forums are an invention of men. Women don't like these because it's about looking for truth....

Be careful with wild generalizations. Won't lead you to truth