Debunking Solipsism

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Hojo said:

The host, Jesus Christ

[r0ckyreed]

44 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No, I am talking about the possibility of different Gods which have no contact with each other.

It is the notion of multiple Absolute Minds.

Imagine infinite different Absolutes.

This is a twisted notion.

But all the Infinite Absolutes are actually One Absolute. There cannot be another absolute. There is only One. If there was another Absolute, then that would mean that the first Absolute is not Absolute enough to contain and be one with the second Absolute. Having 2 absolutes implies duality and relativity. It would be an “other” Absolute which would make it relative and not Absolute. We all know that islands are held together by the sea. The sea represents the Absolute and all the islands are relative since they could all be submerged into the One Ocean. Hope that makes sense.

Edit: another Absolute Consciousness is basically imagined within your own Absolute Consciousness. There are no other Absolute Consciousnesses because you imagined Infinite Gods. But that idea of Infinite Gods is a concept and imagination within your direct experience. It’s only real if you imagine it. If you stopped imagining Infinity Gods, you would be left with just the One Absolute Self.

Edited Sunday at 07:21 PM by r0ckyreed

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura as a god with infinite intelligence and infinite power I want my opponent in Mario kart representing a sensitive being behind to make it more fun and meaningful.

Can I just contact another god to play this together? We can merge together, build this scenario with playing Mario kart from different perspectives, then we divide again, so that we are absolutely sovereign minds on our own again. No contact. Then we both play the scene with Mario kart out of pure joy and forget that we created this scene before . Would that be possible?

I know god is powerful enough to give you an illusion but to make it more real this is what I as god in my human experience would prefer.

 

Edited Sunday at 07:31 PM by OBEler

[Hojo]

@OBEler You have to sing their song a bunch of times.

[r0ckyreed]

I think Infinity Gods is 10% false teachings. All of those Gods are imagined within God. If there are other Gods outside of God’s mind, then God is not God.

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Hojo said:

@Wilhelm44 You are in the absolute level before you are here. You are more in the absolute level than you are on a planet right now.

Pretend you walk around life and there are voices narrating and talking about what other people are doing. The voice in your head asks you questions and then you might answer or try to come to a conclusion. The voices are not physically real but they exist somewhere in your empty head. Your head must be empty for a voice to come and for you to hear it.

 

You in the forum are like a voice coming out of an empty head asking whats the true nature and I am like another voice coming from an empty head saying its you. The empty head is the absolute and we are both just voices in it that don't really exist.

So you asking there must be another, no we are spawning from the same source. Like you can have multiple people inside your head that can talk to you or argue with you. I the voice am not the hand but we are emerging from it. You or I don't exist we come out of a void of nothing and thats the absolute. Theres nobody to exist.

If your head is a closed system with fake people in it then the room is one then the planet is one and the universe is one all coming from one empty space just making shit up. There is no you or other people its a void of nothing spawning thoughts and imaginations. Ultimately its a void of nothing but it has magical powers like your mind does.

You could ask why don't you stop doing it then and I'd tell you I'm not even real I'm an imaginary voice in your head.

If you were a finger on a hand and the other fingers are talking to you they aren't in other finger they are inside your finger that you think you are in. When you transend to the hand so does every other finger cause there is nothing in the other fingers.

If you drew smiley faces on your fingertips and went into a finger to talk to the other smiley faces you would see you were the hand with smiley faces on its fingertips pretending like they were other concious fingers.

 You're probably the only person here speaking from direct experience on the topic and we don't stand a fair chance competing with this explanation. So real. Such an explanation. I felt solipsic reading it.

[Xonas Pitfall]

1 hour ago, r0ckyreed said:

But all the Infinite Absolutes are actually One Absolute. There cannot be another absolute. There is only One. If there was another Absolute, then that would mean that the first Absolute is not Absolute enough to contain and be one with the second Absolute. Having 2 absolutes implies duality and relativity. It would be an “other” Absolute which would make it relative and not Absolute. We all know that islands are held together by the sea. The sea represents the Absolute and all the islands are relative since they could all be submerged into the One Ocean. Hope that makes sense.

Edit: another Absolute Consciousness is basically imagined within your own Absolute Consciousness. There are no other Absolute Consciousnesses because you imagined Infinite Gods. But that idea of Infinite Gods is a concept and imagination within your direct experience. It’s only real if you imagine it. If you stopped imagining Infinity Gods, you would be left with just the One Absolute Self.

Exactly.

"Something" or the absolute or oneness must encompass all of it.

It's like a set of all infinite sets.

You can include:

• {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9}
• Then all numbers between 0 and 1,
• Then the interval between 0 and 0.00000000000001,
• Then all infinities, and then infinities + 1,
• Then infinities + infinity,
• And then the set that holds all infinities,
• Then multiple infinite sets that contain infinite sets of infinities,
• And then infinitely many sets that contain infinitely many infinite sets.

Yet, all of this is still "contained" or captured by one whole reality: the absolute set, which is God, or Omega.

1 hour ago, r0ckyreed said:

I think Infinity Gods is 10% false teachings. All of those Gods are imagined within God. If there are other Gods outside of God’s mind, then God is not God.

Maybe...

[Good-boy]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's exactly what ping-pong is.

That's what life is, a lonely God playing a game of chess against itself.

 

[Davino]

5 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

 but somehow he is the only prominent teacher in all of history that teaches solipsism. 

When asked about this topic, Sri Anandamayi Ma said:

Only you exist, you and you alone. Truly, you are contained in everything. Again, you are indeed God Itself, In all infinity is God and no other

(Breathes)

I alone am.

 

[OBEler]

1 hour ago, r0ckyreed said:

I think Infinity Gods is 10% false teachings. All of those Gods are imagined within God. If there are other Gods outside of God’s mind, then God is not God.

Yes all are imagined by God.

But if there are still gods outside of God this doesn't limit god. it's possible.

Look for indras net to understand.

[Xonas Pitfall]

11 minutes ago, Good-boy said:

 

Good boy!

[Meeksauce]

51 minutes ago, OBEler said:

Yes all are imagined by God.

But if there are still gods outside of God this doesn't limit god. it's possible.

Look for indras net to understand.

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You guys still aren't understanding what God is.

You are God. The one and only. You're still thinking that you are part of God rather than God itself. You're being too humble.

If reality is infinite, absolutely anything is possible. That means there can exist solipsistic and non solipsistic realities. Infinite reality should mean God is so powerful it can create other without limiting itself just through pure magic.

On 8/1/2025 at 8:25 AM, Hojo said:

@Meeksauce are you saying you need a second to verify that the first has them all? In that case I would argue then you need a third to meditate the 2 cause the 2nd could be lying.

 

On 8/1/2025 at 7:56 AM, Someone here said:

with all honesty I have no clue . Leo says go get wasted on 5 meo a hundred times and then you will get it and it will stick. So I'm setting that as a goal .but my gut feeling is that solipsism is obviously true despite how radical and far fetched it seems . Because there is a lot of suspicious phenomenon in life that points to this .but the bottom line is I'm agnostic about it .

 

On 8/1/2025 at 7:44 AM, Wilhelm44 said:

Likewise it's also impossible to prove solipsism. 

On 8/1/2025 at 7:44 AM, Wilhelm44 said:

 

[Hojo]

@Meeksauce Only in an idea it can. You can logically come to that conclusion and its plausible but never known. You cant prove or disprove solipsim and therefore it can be treated as true because the truth would be something that just is and can't be proven or disproven.

You could say both exists or solipsism both you cant know.

Edited Sunday at 10:20 PM by Hojo

[theleelajoker]

Anyone knows "Le deuxième acte"?

Great movie. Watched it maybe half a year ago, and had some awakenings afterwards. Now when I go out and talk to people, there's sometime some role switching. You know that I know, and I know that you know, we stop pretending and we both talk about it. Quite funny. Go and give it a try. 

But you can also do the opposite. I have an old south park episode in mind, the kids visited some reenactment show of old times few hundreds years ago. I remember the motto was "never break character", so the reenactment actors stayed in their role no matter what. Quite funny, too. 

Pick your game. Enjoy the show

But once I have experienced the first game, it's very hard to forget completely. Only works when I am deeply involved into something. 

You have no idea what I'm talking about? Welcome to South Park

 

[Loveeee]

Interaction with Yourself as Other might be my favorite aspect of this work, hell it might be the end game of reality and God is slowly getting me used to it

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia ty

[SOUL]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's exactly what ping-pong is.

That's what life is, a lonely God playing a game of chess against itself.

That is not the crucial part of the comment

[Leo Gura]

Rather than debating about solipsism what you guys need to do is focus on grasping what God is. The deeper you grasp God the more clarity you will have on the solipsism question.

People do not understand what God is. Even enlightened people do not. It takes more than enlightenment to understand it.

God is a singular mind that creates a reality around itself because it has no one to define reality for it. Lack of other is what makes God God.

All non-God notions of reality assume an other which limits reality.

The key to full God-Realization is realizing that other is imagined by you. If other is entirely imaginary then your mind has absolute power. Then you are truly God.

Edited yesterday at 04:07 AM by Leo Gura

[Aaron p]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Rather than debating about solipsism what you guys need to do is focus on grasping what God is. The deeper you grasp God the more clarity you will have on the solipsism question.

People do not understand what God is. Even enlightened people do not. It takes more than enlightenment to understand it.

God is a singular mind that creates a reality around itself because it has no one to define reality for it. Lack of other is what makes God God.

All non-God notions of reality assume an other which limits reality.

The key to full God-Realization is realizing that other is imagined by you. If other is entirely imaginary then your mind has absolute power. Then you are truly God.

@Leo Gura is it not scary as ball sack realising nobody else exists 

[Leo Gura]

16 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

@Leo Gura is it not scary as ball sack realising nobody else exists 

I have never been happier than when I realize I am God.

It is literal ecstasy.

You are resisting ecstasy.