The craziest things happened when I drank ayahusca

[UnbornTao]

46 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

My brotha, Jesus created a world religion.

He did not. 

His followers did.

And notice: the very creation of a religion reveals their failure to directly apprehend the original communications.

Just as a sidenote.

Edited Sunday at 01:25 AM by UnbornTao

[Carl-Richard]

7 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

You're misrepresenting my argument . I'm not saying Jesus wasn't awakened, I'm simply saying that there are individuals equally as awakened who don't have as big of an impact due to a very complex set of cultural and historical factors .

I hope i don't sound condescending, that's something im trying to work on 

That being said, I've felt Jesus at church before , at Easter 2 years ago. So I agree there's something there.

There are awakened masters who act like pervert assholes. And then there are saints, like Jesus. One's awakening does not have to percolate very deep down into one's being, into one's karma, for it to be a legitimate awakening, but when it does percolate down, it becomes quite beautiful.

[samijiben]

@Flowerfaeiry my goal is not to come across as mean or demeaning, both becauze I consider myself a good guy and not tryna get a warning point..

So let's dig into it.

First of all, it is quite clear that you have been ambushed by the usual suspects of this 21st century rendition of MazeRunner: Behold! You have been tricked by SOMEONE into believing that Jesus Christ is..... (you fill in the blankZ and evidently already have!]

Flower, im sure you are a great person. I watched your video, you seem like a nice woman! I bet you have a nice clean kitchen and polished fingernails and an extra bottle of shampoo JUST incase the 1 ur using now runs out of (zhampoo).

But, (and this is a big but), you are missing the pointless point of everything. That is nothing. And certainly not limited to Jesus Christ. 

Seriously, though, do you believe in santaClaus? I get SantaMan & Jesus the Christ confused... always have — White men with beards??? Am I missing something??

Even more seriously, and I say this seriously...

I think you are either  )a. Being provactive on purpose and tryna get some valuable attention 

OR 

You are genuinely mistaken (no worries) and have unwittingly deceived yourself with Christian nonsense-bullshit-hogwash-baloney! Not to worry! You can escape!

1st Step:

Stop tryna prove to us your bs about Jesus Christ (no one gonna buy it)

Step 2 is to actually LOOK AT what your experience is for what it is and REALIZE that "Jesus" is something that YOU are PROJECTING onto your experience — it is not fundamental, it is not neccesary, it is not shit.

It is mental chatter. I write this post with such passion because this thread is a deviation from and the antithesis of Actualized.org and the goal of this forum: to promote openmindedness and encoruage genuine inquiry into taboo and uncharted realms of existence...

That ain't referring to some "spiritual realm of spiritual beings," BY THE WAY, but to your ACTUAL EXPERIENCE, which is distinctly distinct from hopping onto a forum trying to convince people that your mind-rot = truth. Yes, maybe in some made-up personal definition of mathematics, this equation works out. Otherwise, we are quite disappointed in seeing that you fell for the cheese. Jesus Christ is Cheese. God is Cheese PLUS the crackers. 

Don't you want the crackers too? I know I do! 

Fuck with the crackers-only methodology! Let's expand our minds and palets to be open to the inclusion of CHEESE AND CRACKERS!

[Leo Gura]

Jesus is a fantasy.

Let it go and realize that you are God.

[Flowerfaeiry]

1 hour ago, Lyubov said:

So what is the point of you changing your state and going to the spirit realm? What is the benefit for you? In what way is this true for you and better for your life as opposed to before? 

I did not ask for this to happen and I cannot control it. It’s something that happened after 12 ceremonies. It actually would be nice not to be so sensitive to energy because it’s very difficult being so in tune all the time. Like the best way I can describe this is just you know when you like someone and when you don’t right? Or you can tell when someone is being weird? Or you can read body language? We all have that sense in one way or another. Well it is like that but 100 fold. 
 

The benefit though is I am able to learn a whole bunch about life and how humans function. 

[Flowerfaeiry]

33 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Jesus is a fantasy.

Let it go and realize that you are God.

But Leo! No but seriously Leo one thing you don’t understand (with all due respect)  is what ayahuasca is and the energies that it allows you to see. Can you try to be open to that. And then with this knowledge I began to see what’s really happening here. Good and evil is real Leo. Spiritual warfare is real. And Jesus is the most high, beating all other dark spirits. It’s so real dude you cannot make this up. 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

But Leo! No but seriously Leo one thing you don’t understand (with all due respect)  is what ayahuasca is and the energies that it allows you to see. Can you try to be open to that. And then with this knowledge I began to see what’s really happening here. Good and evil is real Leo. Spiritual warfare is real. And Jesus is the most high, beating all other dark spirits. It’s so real dude you cannot make this up. 

Those are mystical fantasies, not serious consciousness work.

I've done oral DMT many times and 30 other psychedelics. I know this domain as well as it can be known.

You are failing to realize that you are God dreaming.

Edited Sunday at 02:01 AM by Leo Gura

[Flowerfaeiry]

51 minutes ago, samijiben said:

@Flowerfaeiry my goal is not to come across as mean or demeaning, both becauze I consider myself a good guy and not tryna get a warning point..

So let's dig into it.

First of all, it is quite clear that you have been ambushed by the usual suspects of this 21st century rendition of MazeRunner: Behold! You have been tricked by SOMEONE into believing that Jesus Christ is..... (you fill in the blankZ and evidently already have!]

Flower, im sure you are a great person. I watched your video, you seem like a nice woman! I bet you have a nice clean kitchen and polished fingernails and an extra bottle of shampoo JUST incase the 1 ur using now runs out of (zhampoo).

But, (and this is a big but), you are missing the pointless point of everything. That is nothing. And certainly not limited to Jesus Christ. 

Seriously, though, do you believe in santaClaus? I get SantaMan & Jesus the Christ confused... always have — White men with beards??? Am I missing something??

Even more seriously, and I say this seriously...

I think you are either  )a. Being provactive on purpose and tryna get some valuable attention 

OR 

You are genuinely mistaken (no worries) and have unwittingly deceived yourself with Christian nonsense-bullshit-hogwash-baloney! Not to worry! You can escape!

1st Step:

Stop tryna prove to us your bs about Jesus Christ (no one gonna buy it)

Step 2 is to actually LOOK AT what your experience is for what it is and REALIZE that "Jesus" is something that YOU are PROJECTING onto your experience — it is not fundamental, it is not neccesary, it is not shit.

It is mental chatter. I write this post with such passion because this thread is a deviation from and the antithesis of Actualized.org and the goal of this forum: to promote openmindedness and encoruage genuine inquiry into taboo and uncharted realms of existence...

That ain't referring to some "spiritual realm of spiritual beings," BY THE WAY, but to your ACTUAL EXPERIENCE, which is distinctly distinct from hopping onto a forum trying to convince people that your mind-rot = truth. Yes, maybe in some made-up personal definition of mathematics, this equation works out. Otherwise, we are quite disappointed in seeing that you fell for the cheese. Jesus Christ is Cheese. God is Cheese PLUS the crackers. 

Don't you want the crackers too? I know I do! 

Fuck with the crackers-only methodology! Let's expand our minds and palets to be open to the inclusion of CHEESE AND CRACKERS!

Dude. You don’t know me or what I’ve been through. It’s very, very clear you have limited understanding of VERY REAL spiritual truths, that have been proven, time and again. You think the Bible is just the most famous holy book for no reason? Come on. This is sacred, ancient, holy knowledge for a reason. This is not some cheese and crackers debate in fact you’ve embarrassed yourself here(with all due respect).  

[Flowerfaeiry]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Those are mystical fantasies, not serious consciousness work.

I've done oral DMT many times and 30 other psychedelics. I know this domain as well as it can be known.

You are failing to realize that you are God dreaming.

Love you Leo but oral DMT and other psychedelics are not the same as drinking a shamanic ayahuasca brew. You haven’t done it, you simply don't know and haven’t been opened to this world. It’s very clear to me this is out of your scope of understanding (with all due respect). 

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Flowerfaeiry said:

not the same as drinking a shamanic ayahuasca brew.

Those shamans are full of shit. They are not thinking, they are doing conformity.

You are hallucinating Jesus. I promise.

[r0ckyreed]

Jesus is a social construct. Notice that no social construct can be truth. 

[UnbornTao]

For example, why wasn't the Buddha, or Lao Tzu, the ones who did it for you? 

[Sempiternity]

I've done shamanic Ayahuasca ceremonies dozens of times. Almost every time is a different type of experience. I've gone deep. I've fully transcend numerous times. I've seen some weird shit, like a huge snake. I've seen all kinds of things. And I realize that what I'm seeing isn't real, but my own manifestation. 

With all respect, maybe further down your path you'll look back on this phase of your path, as just that a phase you went through as you were trying to figure things out. Or not, your path is your path. 

[samijiben]

Just now, UnbornTao said:

For example, why wasn't the Buddha, or Lao Tzu, the ones who did it for you? 

Exactly, or SantaClaus. Why you thi k Laotzi better than SantaClaus?? I dont see LaoTzi getting his FatAss down the chimney.

[Flowerfaeiry]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Those shamans are full of shit. They are not thinking, they are doing conformity.

You are hallucinating Jesus. I promise.

This is real stuff Leo I promise you.

[Flowerfaeiry]

3 minutes ago, Sempiternity said:

I've done shamanic Ayahuasca ceremonies dozens of times. Almost every time is a different type of experience. I've gone deep. I've fully transcend numerous times. I've seen some weird shit, like a huge snake. I've seen all kinds of things. And I realize that what I'm seeing isn't real, but my own manifestation. 

With all respect, maybe further down your path you'll look back on this phase of your path, as just that a phase you went through as you were trying to figure things out. Or not, your path is your path. 

I know you’re lying. 

[OBEler]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Those shamans are full of shit. They are not thinking, they are doing conformity.

You are hallucinating Jesus. I promise.

It could be a complex hallucination. Something like an archetype. Seeing Jesus is not an ordinary hallucination but a special one. Yeah in the end you are hallucinatimg Jesus but Jesus could be on other dimensions you hallucinate than the typical ones.

 

[samijiben]

17 minutes ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

Dude. You don’t know me or what I’ve been through. It’s very, very clear you have limited understanding of VERY REAL spiritual truths, that have been proven, time and again. You think the Bible is just the most famous holy book for no reason? Come on. This is sacred, ancient, holy knowledge for a reason. This is not some cheese and crackers debate in fact you’ve embarrassed yourself here(with all due respect).  

So you ARE shitposting! Gotchya!

How the hell are you a moderator, by the way? Looks like Leo gotta brush up on his judgement ahajahaha

[Flowerfaeiry]

9 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

Jesus is a social construct. Notice that no social construct can be truth. 

Yeah and has been for 2,000 years? With what I’ve seen I’m not buying it. Theres something very very real here.

[Flowerfaeiry]

1 minute ago, OBEler said:

It could be a complex hallucination. Something like an archetype. Seeing Jesus is not an ordinary hallucination but a special one. Yeah in the end you are hallucinatimg Jesus but Jesus could be on other dimensions you hallucinate than the typical ones.

 

I’m not hallucinating visions of Jesus. I’m saying his name while under spiritual attack.