Chadders

I’m done with psychedelics (for now)

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I’ve been doing psychedelics for a few years now and I believe I’ve grown tremendously through them. My personality has radically changed and my world has got so much bigger

The last trip I had I was on mushrooms. As with all my trips I never do them for recreation so usually they’re pretty intense. This last trip I had what felt like a warriors initiation. After the trip I just felt like Jesus I just want to settle now. I don’t want to have to keep pushing myself to take the hard road because it was an intense experience

So I’ve decided that I am ready to settle now into where I am right now. To be rather than to become. Might return to them later in life - 10-20 years down the line maybe 

Anyone else had a similar feeling around this?

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@Chadders how often do you take them and which psychedelics.

10 years is a long time. I had thoughts of maybe for a year after an intense LSD trip.

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I stopped two years ago and I'm still processing the what I learned. I've also stopped for a while partly because I feel some respect or caution towards using it, but I intend to take small doses of LSD again soon. 

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@Chadders

I've stopped for over 3 years. Psychedelics need to be used carefully. I think it's part of the learning curve to jump in, get humbled (whole simultaneously getting a notable amount of strength), to then do a tactical retreat for however long is necessary, then psychedelic comeback when the time is right. It shouldn't be a terrifying nightmare...Leo said he got only a few bad trips. If you force it too much, it'll fuck you up for sure. The good news is, doing something like this shocks the ego into super intuition that something massive is here and it knows on some level. 

Your not the only one with this experience. 

I'm currently doing TRE therapy (which I was shocked to see how legit it is) although still early days with it. And sober somatic exercises like holotropic breath work. Just to process my past difficulties and stored energetic fuck ups. These kinds of sober practises are probably best to heal and integrate the trips that you've done to pave the way to your eventual psychedelic comeback if you feel the appropriate time does indeed come at some point in the future. 

 That's what I'm doing anyway.

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On 23/07/2025 at 9:26 AM, OBEler said:

@Chadders how often do you take them and which psychedelics.

10 years is a long time. I had thoughts of maybe for a year after an intense LSD trip.

it varies but around once or twice a month. I go through phases between LSD and mushrooms 

I’ve got a lot out of them. Have been challenged and given new perspectives but life itself is offering enough challenge for growth and I’m ready to slow the ship down. Constantly pushing up against reality is the only way you grow but it’s hard work and I just want to breeze through for a few years. Maybe longer. I’ve learnt the lessons and have grown profoundly. I’m more settled now with who and where I am in life

This is the thing for me I’ve primarily used psychedelics for personal spiritual growth rather than to understand reality. Understanding reality helps you grow but it’s not the primary reason like it is for Leo. One day it might be when I’m older and life no longer holds the same meaning. Then I might do psychedelics purely to understand the nature of reality 

Saying this though is there any point to that. Life is for living. Death will reveal reality to you. It’s more preparation for that if anything 

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I would say that psychedelics are fool's gold, and if you cannot see God right now, then you never will, not even if you take all the LSD in the world, that will just make you go crazy, it will turn you into some kind of rambling bafoon of "enlightened speech."

The truth is that you only need food, water, and a little bit of warmth to protect you against the inevitable fate of death, and that is a possibility always creeping around the corner, not so distant as you THINK..............

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21 minutes ago, samijiben said:

I would say that psychedelics are fool's gold, and if you cannot see God right now, then you never will, not even if you take all the LSD in the world

Nonsense 

You're more likely to have a Awakening on LSD than sober. This is a demonstrable empirical claim.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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@samijiben @samijiben  Have you read studies about 5 meo, producing 90% mystical experiences in a group? If psychedelics do nothing, why all these god realization reports on psychedelics? Before that they didn't recognize god. 

I am curious how you come to your conclusion. 

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8 hours ago, samijiben said:

I would say that psychedelics are fool's gold, and if you cannot see God right now, then you never will, not even if you take all the LSD in the world, that will just make you go crazy, it will turn you into some kind of rambling bafoon of "enlightened speech."

The truth is that you only need food, water, and a little bit of warmth to protect you against the inevitable fate of death, and that is a possibility always creeping around the corner, not so distant as you THINK..............

I agree with you. I'm not convinced they have grown more than what life has thrown at me. But they are valid experiences and can def be used to learn things when used in a positive way. 

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14 hours ago, Chadders said:

it varies but around once or twice a month. I go through phases between LSD and mushrooms 

I’ve got a lot out of them. Have been challenged and given new perspectives but life itself is offering enough challenge for growth and I’m ready to slow the ship down. Constantly pushing up against reality is the only way you grow but it’s hard work and I just want to breeze through for a few years. Maybe longer. I’ve learnt the lessons and have grown profoundly. I’m more settled now with who and where I am in life

This is the thing for me I’ve primarily used psychedelics for personal spiritual growth rather than to understand reality. Understanding reality helps you grow but it’s not the primary reason like it is for Leo. One day it might be when I’m older and life no longer holds the same meaning. Then I might do psychedelics purely to understand the nature of reality 

Saying this though is there any point to that. Life is for living. Death will reveal reality to you. It’s more preparation for that if anything 

Bold marked by me. Those two go hand in hand, it's about balancing them for me.

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I did psychedelics intensely for 5 years.  I haven’t completely stopped but I now am very, very selective.   I realized that at the end of the journey, it becomes just a memory.  You are left with a memory and there is no long term changes.   It’s unstable.  I also had an intense 17 hour trip on San Pedro which pushed me to the edge of insanity.  I realized that if you go to far using a drug without prior development your brain can’t handle the expanded awareness.  I am now doing intense spiritual sadhana and as a result have naturally lost the desire to take drugs.


Vincit omnia Veritas.

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13 hours ago, OBEler said:

@samijiben @samijiben  Have you read studies about 5 meo, producing 90% mystical experiences in a group? If psychedelics do nothing, why all these god realization reports on psychedelics? Before that they didn't recognize god. 

I am curious how you come to your conclusion. 

No read study. Those people did not recognize God. no one has realized God yet. Especially those claiming they have in a "mystical group setting"

in this case, 5meo works as an illusion-amplifier 

16 hours ago, Davino said:

Nonsense 

You're more likely to have a Awakening on LSD than sober. This is a demonstrable empirical claim.

Demonstrable empirical claim? Prove it.

8 hours ago, Lyubov said:

I agree with you. I'm not convinced they have grown more than what life has thrown at me. But they are valid experiences and can def be used to learn things when used in a positive way. 

Sure, yes, but that is not God -- more creativity? better coordination across multiple dimensions? sure. But God? Ha! no chance you are getting any closer to THAT no matter WHAT you do.

 

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@samijiben so you think you only can reach god through death or you come to this earth as god. Every attempt to reach god like yoga, meditation, retreats etc are useless then for you.

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27 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@samijiben so you think you only can reach god through death or you come to this earth as god. Every attempt to reach god like yoga, meditation, retreats etc are useless then for you.

Yes, all those attempts are useless if goal is God.

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That is actually the responsible attitude to do psychedelics. Like people said before me you have to respect the psychedelics, but i would also add that other circumstances could matter too. Taking drugs in a bad mindset for example  or in a bad environment can lead to bad trips and bad trips can cause more harm than good. Me personally i have not taken psychedelics in more than a year now. For me what happened was, i got confronted with something im not ready to face again on psychedelics yet. I think i have to resolve it without psychedelics before going back again. But maybe im just a coward. I got scared shitless im not gonna lie.

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