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1 hour ago, Bogdan said:

@Sugarcoat thanks 😽

@Breakingthewall@kbone sorry @Breakingthewall, i didn't mean to tag you, and i can't untag for some reason.

@kbone sure, conditioned fear is a potent ego memory and reason to remain a victim, that doesn't let focus rest on what is True, Present, because the truth is that your true Self, which is Love, Is all the things that the ego fears and hates, because it thinks those things will cause suffering and death.

But honestly i find it weird that you are asking me this, when Leo has so much content on these topics, and when we are supposed to contemplate these things on our own.

Perhaps you already believed you knew the answer, and wanted to see if we're in the same page, or perhaps you just liked what i wrote and wanted to hear more answers in my style of answering

But i see quite a lot of questions being asked that have obviously not been contemplated enough in private before asking, like a reliance on outside authority.

So that's why i'm questioning where your question is coming from.

I liked your preceding expression, so "liked what i wrote and wanted to hear more answers in my style of answering" sounds about right.

All good?

Peacely

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13 hours ago, Eskilon said:

But they do though. You are there but you are not conscious. You experience deep sleep, but since it does not have anything to be aware of, its a blank. If this wasn`t the case, how can you remember that you were nothing in deep sleep

It's like Minecraft, you hit the bed at night the transition happens and then oh wow, it's day, I'm full stats and refreshed.

It's such simply trick of consciousness.

 


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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5 minutes ago, Davino said:

It's like Minecraft, you hit the bed at night the transition happens and then oh wow, it's day, I'm full stats and refreshed.

It's such simply trick of consciousness.

 

spot on


Nothing will prevent Willy.

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7 minutes ago, Davino said:

It's like Minecraft, you hit the bed at night the transition happens and then oh wow, it's day, I'm full stats and refreshed.

It's such simply trick of consciousness.

But then do you acknowledge that it exists? And that you were in that state before birth?

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3 hours ago, Bogdan said:

conditioned fear is a potent ego memory and reason to remain a victim, that doesn't let focus rest on what is True, Present, because the truth is that your true Self, which is Love, Is all the things that the ego fears and hates, because it thinks those things will cause suffering and death.

You could try this formulation as an experiment :there is no ego and truth, there are levels of closure and openness. What we call love is simply reality. In an open structure, it is perceived as spaciousness, unity, creative energy. In a closed structure, it is perceived as contraction, separation, defense. Using the word love is like using the word nothing; it is misleading, dualistic, and formulated from the structure that closes. Makes distinctions, then leads to confusion. 

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13 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

How you know?

Well I don’t feel a ~need~ to know about the nature of reality, I would be fine without an answer. And also because I am not enlightened most of things about the nature of reality are just ideas to me (or intuitions)

But I ask because it’s something I’ve heard before. For example in the past year I’ve been struggling and one time I felt this presence and heard this voice tell me that my struggle is “love” (maybe it sound psychotic lol). Not love as in the human love, my struggle doesn’t relate to love in that way, but love in the way non dualists call reality love. So I was just curious about it.

It’s a peculiar thing to call reality. It can be hard to stomach to a human that even the worst suffering can be called love. But it’s not a human love, so it doesn’t follow the conventional definition.

It not being human love can collapse and then you realize its all love. Then when you discover its Absolutely Relative then it makes sense that it can prove any point to itself. So then you realize even delusion is true because it has to be to create difference. So then it makes sense why people are deluded. But then the question becomes are you deluded? And if so by how much? How would solve this?

This when self-inquiry happens. So when you want it bad enough you'll get it. Just know its radical. 


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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40 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

It not being human love can collapse and then you realize its all love. Then when you discover its Absolutely Relative then it makes sense that it can prove any point to itself. So then you realize even delusion is true because it has to be to create difference. So then it makes sense why people are deluded. But then the question becomes are you deluded? And if so by how much? How would solve this?

This when self-inquiry happens. So when you want it bad enough you'll get it. Just know its radical. 

I agree a strong desire is key . With a few exceptions of people to whom it has happened spontaneously 

I tend to focus on myself and my own nature but it’s for sure a deep path to go down to unravel your delusions, if they’re there…

 

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@Sugarcoat Why did you take 5-meo if you would be fine not understanding reality? It seems like a contradictory move lol

Or maybe you got a glimpse of where it would take you and you decided its not what you really want?

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Just now, Eskilon said:

@Sugarcoat Why did you take 5-meo if you would be fine not understanding reality? It seems like a contradictory move lol

Or maybe you got a glimpse of where it would take you and you decided its not what you really want?

Because I’ve been going through things and wanted an escape. And I was curious too

It was uncomfortable but I’d like to experience it again and go deeper in it. To see if it has any value for me. 
 

 

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6 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Because I’ve been going through things and wanted an escape. And I was curious too

You could've gone much lighter than a nuke bomb lmao.

You said that it awoke fears that you didnt know you had. Do you still want to go deeper even after knowing that? Maybe you do want to know what reality is?

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38 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

You could've gone much lighter than a nuke bomb lmao.

You said that it awoke fears that you didnt know you had. Do you still want to go deeper even after knowing that? Maybe you do want to know what reality is?

I have the impression that other psychedelics are more hallucinogenic/visual, and perhaps emotional (releasing trauma etc) . And I was not looking for that because I don’t feel like I have repressed emotions or trauma.
 

I was looking for an radical ego less experience and it seems 5 Meo is one of the best at that.

When I said it showed me fears I didn’t know I had I meant that it showed me that I found the ego dissolution uncomfortable (it wasn’t really scary because it was a small dose). I was scared of taking higher dose because I was afraid it would feel terrible. So that’s the fear it exposed

I still wanna try psychedelics again despite it being potentially a bad trip, I wanna take that risk and see if there’s any value in it for me. 
 

So I do have a certain interest in the nature of reality but mostly if it’s not a too horrible experience 

How about you?

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11 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I have the impression that other psychedelics are more hallucinogenic/visual, and perhaps emotional (releasing trauma etc) . And I was not looking for that because I don’t feel like I have repressed emotions or trauma.
 

I was looking for an radical ego less experience and it seems 5 Meo is one of the best at that.

When I said it showed me fears I didn’t know I had I meant that it showed me that I found the ego dissolution uncomfortable (it wasn’t really scary because it was a small dose). I was scared of taking higher dose because I was afraid it would feel terrible. So that’s the fear it exposed

I still wanna try psychedelics again despite it being potentially a bad trip, I wanna take that risk and see if there’s any value in it for me. 
 

So I do have a certain interest in the nature of reality but mostly if it’s not a too horrible experience 

I see. When you said that you were going through some things I thought you meant trauma and difficult emotions to deal with. 

 

12 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

How about you?

I do want to understand reality. It's challenging, but I am working throught it. It's sad that I don't have access to 5-meo and I have some natural resistance, but people already had awakening with "milder" substances(shrooms and Aya for example) so I will stick to those and meditation.

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5 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

 

I do want to understand reality. It's challenging, but I am working throught it. It's sad that I don't have access to 5-meo and I have some natural resistance, but people already had awakening with "milder" substances(shrooms and Aya for example) so I will stick to those and meditation.

That can def lead to mystical experience. I want to try milder ones too. Good luck!

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@kbone all good, bro! I didn't mean to speak quite as aggressively. Sorry for that. I had a stressed body that day, lol

@Breakingthewall i think i can sort of see your perspective. It's just that we're using language and it's sooo tricky😆 because openness, closeness, spaciousness, and the other terms you used instead of love and nothing are also dualistic, no?

The way i see it is that every single word has a dualistic nature, and every single "word", is a "thing" - and each and every "thing" is Absolute "proof" or meta-proof of Infinity. Cause there is no "thing" that is NOT infinity, Absolutely speaking.

So to me, what you're saying kinda sounds like "no, infinity and infinity are misleading terms, i like to say that there is infinite infinity from where infinity is infinite, and then there is finite infinity, from where infinity is infinitely finite"

Or something like that 😆 (i'm not trying to be mean btw)

But that's why i'm like... "Huh?... Well, i'm not sure how to reply to that, cause i mean, it's not wrong, but to me that is also not right either"

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5 hours ago, Eskilon said:

But then do you acknowledge that it exists?

Does sleep exist in Minecraft?

 


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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29 minutes ago, Davino said:

Does sleep exist in Minecraft?

It does, you can press a button near a bed and the act of sleeping will occur. The screen will turn black and you will wake up in another time. How is this different from sleep in real life?

I think what you are trying to tell is, consciousness never sleeps, in other words, consciousness can never not exist. Correct? It makes sense intellectualy because what doesnt exist doesnt exist, by definition. So there`s only what exists, existence.

But, experientially, consciousness can definitely "forget itself" or go blind for moments, and that would be unconsciousness. But you exist, you are just not aware of it so. Which is why you can be alive, but not conscious. And that can link to what you were before Birth, exactly that -- total unconsciousness, not aware of anything in particular, but still there without an identity.

Can you clarify your positon based on what I just wrote?

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33 minutes ago, Bogdan said:

because openness, closeness, spaciousness, and the other terms you used instead of love and nothing are also dualistic, no?

I'd say no, because openness refers to the configuration of the structure that we are. That is, we know that a structure exists, that reality is configured as a form; otherwise, there would be no experience. So, that form can be more open or more closed. Reality will always be reality, but the structure of the form changes. Ultimately, it's the same, since the structure is made of reality; it's a manifestation of reality. But how the structure perceives itself changes. 

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51 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

It does, you can press a button near a bed and the act of sleeping will occur. The screen will turn black and you will wake up in another time. How is this different from sleep in real life?

I don't think you're seriously contemplating what I'm saying. I can give you the answer but that's like resolving the problem for you.

Actually I'm saying a very radical point, for understanding the previous requisites are Awakening to Imagination and what is POV (not gonna say the s-word). Once you grasped that and you've realized consciousness is all that exists, a huge doubt will come in your mind. How come does sleep exist?

It took me almost five years of intense contemplation and practice to crack this nut. 

Here you can see the post I made back then, which was the trigger to understand deep sleep. All answers were quite unsatisfactory but what Breakingthewall said really cracked the nut for me:

I share this instead of giving you answer so that you see the whole years of hard work it took me to grasp what is deep sleep. I can give you the answer and I've already done but this is the real work behind it.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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