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Do you ever feel like life is not worth living?

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Warning: this is depressive

you may not have the friends you'd like, the family you'd like, the health you'd like, the job you'd like, not being able to attract the people you are attracted to, not have the features you'd like, not living in a place you'd like, not having the experience you'd like, the money or respect you'd like.

Add the suffering if you live in bad enviroment or/and bad people or have health problems, or mental illness.

And then even if everything goes great maybe you are getting older and all the fun is gone, all the beauty is gone, all the hormones are gone, all the health and power is gone. Or there are young people that experienced everything fun and now there is no novelty, the same routine everyday.

And all the desires we have that we never get them, and our souls cry that we don't have what we want. Even if you meditate and eliminate most desires, still you have no fun, you are just neutral

I see people that have important things that I don't have and I want to cry. Why they have everything and I have nothing. Even them aren't nessecary happy but I suppose there is a tiny minority that is extremely happy and have everything. I don't want them to be sad, I  just want to be happy like them. I am sad. I don't see any way out. My cope in life was philosophy, now that I don't find philosophy fun any more and don't want to think so much anymore, I no longer have anything to live for. I try to do art but I am very very bad at it so the fun isn't there.

 

I don't know why should I keep living anymore. I really wish there is an afterlife cause I really want to go there(and pray it will be a good one, maybe with a lot of fun and happiness). I almost get happy thinking that there maybe some new life if things end. Maybe it's better this way. But I don't know even if reincarnation is real although I tend to believe it is, still I am not sure. I am just breathing, I am not living. Do you ever feel like life is not worth living?

 

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Hey brother! Being in a shity situation myself I fully understand and can empthise with you. But you know sometimes there are some good moments and you feel relaxed, at peace and high conscious. 

I recommend that you try to create that kind of mental state because that will allow you to think postively and constructively. If you are in a bad emotional state and low conscious, no advice really gonna work out for you. So the solution for you is to first create a good mental and emotional state and then rethink about your life in a positive way. Our emotional state has a lot to do with how we think. I'm sure new insights and positive strategies and God's intelligence will hit you. 

And I hope that you can see that although there are some objectively bad external conditions out of your control but largely it's your own mind that is working against you and you can change it.


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Short answer: yes. 

It changed after I tapped into this feeling deeply without acting on it other than talking about it. Also, a guy responding "how you know the alternative is better?" gave me pause. 

Short time after mood was trending up.

 

 

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Give Time a chance.

Time makes everything better.

Have faith in that.

Love you; Stay strong, you are loved, and you are strong.


Rationality is Stupidity, Love is Rationality

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Absolutely. I have countless suicidal thoughts. I don’t understand how people stay strong. I do it for one sec and then it crumbles and I’m ready to off myself again because I feel I can’t handle life

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13 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Absolutely. I have countless suicidal thoughts. I don’t understand how people stay strong. I do it for one sec and then it crumbles and I’m ready to off myself again because I feel I can’t handle life

It will improves soon i promise

Edited by Schizophonia

Nothing will prevent Willy.

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What's your pb btw; do you want love, money, get out of disease ?

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6 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

It will improves soon i promise

You can’t just promise something like that. You don’t know that

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3 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

You can’t just promise something like that. You don’t know that

Jo ;) 


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@Never_give_up I don’t have the answer. But you’re not the only one thinking this way. It’s brutal when the stuff you used to care about stops feeling like it matters and you’re just trying to survive instead of thrive.

I can only give you this advice: keep moving your body, even if it’s just a walk around the block. It doesn’t make life magically worth living, but it sets you up to have a bit more peace.

On 6.7.2025 at 2:40 PM, Never_give_up said:

I almost get happy thinking that there maybe some new life if things end.

Be careful with that idea. Even if there is another life after this you’ll most likely end up facing the same challenges again and again until you learn how to move through them. Only chance to do so is in the here and now.

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My mentor often says that if you have your head too close to the board, the result is always catastrophic.


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12 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

My mentor often says that if you have your head too close to the board, the result is always catastrophic.

 If the catastrophic events that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs hadn’t happened, mammals, birds, and flowering plants might not have had the chance to evolve and grow in the way they did, shaping the world we live in today. Every major stress or disruption in nature, even if it seems harmful, will create new information for new life and increase the planet’s biodiversity and beauty. That's the feature and it's open sourced. That being said, I don’t think nature favors catastrophic outcomes every time.

We might have our own little catastrophe circles too, just like it happens in nature.

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This remark may seem a bit eccentric but take it as food for thought.

Ever thought that some people are depressed or feel down and sad because they've turned happiness upside down. Meaning, they've been so happy, been joyful the majority of their lives most things have worked out for them, they know happiness in the form of good friends, great job, lovely family, etc and all the things you've mentioned that you want out of life and they felt that way for a short while or even a long time but something there didn't quite hit the mark. Didn't quite feel fully fulfilling. They've met all goals did everything they wanted and still felt quite empty, and now they're sad and depressed. Really sad and depressed, like at the edge, hopeless edge, can't dream anymore, can't even think of anything that they can strive for to fill the gap because they've met them all. I'm sure a lot of either the rich or celebrities have gotten to this point. Maybe it's the reason some even did the "s" thing. Can't say for sure. 

 Some people are very depressed because they're tired of feeling happy, tired of feeling empty happiness, tired of "getting it right" but still feel at times the feeling of emptiness and unfulfillment. Done everything they wanted but now they're back to square one. It's worse because now their "wantings" will exceed the norm, to go to the moon or go to Mars or something like that to exceed their other accomplishments. Why you think Elon acts the way he does and even why that other guy Bezos, or was it Elon, don't remember spent $1,000's just to visit Mars and they will continue to overly exceed their expectations to the point where there's nothing left to do and start to really be off-balanced like Sean Diddy Combs. His was quicker because his container just couldn't handle that much wealth and fame and at such a fast pace coming from poverty himself. 

Don't think the grass is always greener on the other side. I'm not trying to give you any advice here nor hope or anything like that just opening you up to what's possible, not in possible to achieve, but possible in interpreting and responding to what's actually and already happening.

Also, think about the fact that you say you have a mental illness but still coherently understand what you're feeling, able to put together why you're feeling the way you do, able to understand the mechanisms of what it takes to feel the ways you do; meaning, understand that these things can create feelings of despair, etc. What I'm saying here in this paragraph is very subtle and requires to really absorb and understand what I'm saying. The mentally ill won't even understand that not having the job they want, the people they want etc,( as you mentioned above), is what's making them sad, depressed and hopeless to the point of not wanting to live anymore. That takes a coherent mind to be able to deduct. I won't go there too much as I'm not an expert on that, and it could be a type of illness where one can still reason these things out, but think about that. 

I'm sure lots of people have thought that life isn't worth living anymore, including myself, but nothing happened with it because it was a thought and thoughts have no reality. I guarantee you, just about everyone on the planet after a certain age have contemplated sui before, think life isn't worth living or just want to die. Cells do that all the time and what do you think you're made of on the biological level. People think those thoughts are theirs but they're not. Anyway, I don't want to go there as it's a touchy subject and gets misunderstood. Much love to you. It'll work out, it always does but not always to your liking.

 

Edited by Princess Arabia

What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

This remark may seem a bit eccentric but take it as food for thought.

Ever thought that some people are depressed or feel down and sad because they've turned happiness upside down. Meaning, they've been so happy, been joyful the majority of their lives most things have worked out for them, they know happiness in the form of good friends, great job, lovely family, etc and all the things you've mentioned that you want out of life and they felt that way for a short while or even a long time but something there didn't quite hit the mark. Didn't quite feel fully fulfilling. They've met all goals did everything they wanted and still felt quite empty, and now they're sad and depressed. Really sad and depressed, like at the edge, hopeless edge, can't dream anymore, can't even think of anything that they can strive for to fill the gap because they've met them all. I'm sure a lot of either the rich or celebrities have gotten to this point. Maybe it's the reason some even did the "s" thing. Can't say for sure. 

 Some people are very depressed because they're tired of feeling happy, tired of feeling empty happiness, tired of "getting it right" but still feel at times the feeling of emptiness and unfulfillment. Done everything they wanted but now they're back to square one. It's worse because now their "wantings" will exceed the norm, to go to the moon or go to Mars or something like that to exceed their other accomplishments. Why you think Elon acts the way he does and even why that other guy Bezos, or was it Elon, don't remember spent $1,000's just to visit Mars and they will continue to overly exceed their expectations to the point where there's nothing left to do and start to really be off-balanced like Sean Diddy Combs. His was quicker because his container just couldn't handle that much wealth and fame and at such a fast pace coming from poverty himself. 

Don't think the grass is always greener on the other side. I'm not trying to give you any advice here nor hope or anything like that just opening you up to what's possible, not in possible to achieve, but possible in interpreting and responding to what's actually and already happening.

Also, think about the fact that you say you have a mental illness but still coherently understand what you're feeling, able to put together why you're feeling the way you do, able to understand the mechanisms of what it takes to feel the ways you do; meaning, understand that these things can create feelings of despair, etc. What I'm saying here in this paragraph is very subtle and requires to really absorb and understand what I'm saying. The mentally ill won't even understand that not having the job they want, the people they want etc,( as you mentioned above), is what's making them sad, depressed and hopeless to the point of not wanting to live anymore. That takes a coherent mind to be able to deduct. I won't go there too much as I'm not an expert on that, and it could be a type of illness where one can still reason these things out, but think about that. 

I'm sure lots of people have thought that life isn't worth living anymore, including myself, but nothing happened with it because it was a thought and thoughts have no reality. I guarantee you, just about everyone on the planet after a certain age have contemplated sui before, think life isn't worth living or just want to die. Cells do that all the time and what do you think you're made of on the biological level. People think those thoughts are theirs but they're not. Anyway, I don't want to go there as it's a touchy subject and gets misunderstood. Much love to you. It'll work out, it always does but not always to your liking.

 

Happiness is in creativity.


Nothing will prevent Willy.

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11 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Happiness is in creativity.

Happiness isnt in anywhere. Sadness is also in creativity then, according to your logic.


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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42 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Happiness isnt in anywhere. Sadness is also in creativity then, according to your logic.

No unhappiness lies in calcification, stubbornness.
You are unhappy because you keep repeating that you can't achieve something or have lost something; this is the opposite of creativity.

 


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2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

No unhappiness lies in calcification, stubbornness.
You are unhappy because you keep repeating that you can't achieve something or have lost something; this is the opposite of creativity.

 

Lol


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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Not sure if it applies to everyone but Tony Robbins once said if he could sum up human happiness in a word, it would be “progress”. This has been true for me. 

Seems to me that suicidal ideation is a problem of energy. Every thought has an energy impact. If you have 1000 negative thoughts, your energy will be shit. 1000 positive thoughts, it will be good. 

What is the result of dozens or hundreds of negative thoughts daily, over the course of many years? The answer is: needing to not feel like shit anymore. Needing the negative energy that dominates you to cease.

Taking responsibility for your mental activity and doing something about it is the way out, for those who truly want out. Because if you were not plagued by negative energy, you would want to live, to explore, to engage. 

I recommend getting intimate with James Allen.

Edited by Joshe

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Sure. I'd bet that pretty much everyone does feel like that (that life or one's self is worthless) from time to time, to a greater or lesser degree.

developers developers developers!

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29 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

developers developers developers!

Yes, without the prospect of progress, depression is likely. But the main trap is in the present moment when the negative energy seems inescapable because the mind can’t envision or see a path to a good future. A sense of doom washes over and haunts them. 

This is why strong self-efficacy is important and why it’s dangerous for people who lack self-efficacy to deal in ideas such as “life is ultimately meaningless”.

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