Leo's Book

[Davino]

7 minutes ago, Peo said:

You said in a video you would use 10 years to write a book, so i guess i will wait 10 years then. 

He also said that in the last page he'd ask the reader to burn the book.

That'd be so Leo ahahahha

[Aether Phoenix]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

For those of you who love AI, I will spin up an AI slop book and sell it to you. Everyone else will get the real book.

That'll teach you.

😂 

Do not confuse the content of a book with a tool to write it, @Leo Gura. 

[MutedMiles]

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That is the same as saying that your thought is just the next neuron firing, based on the information the Brain receive and the other networks you have in your brain, you see? 

It is just an excuse the mind uses to paradigm lock AI into inferior. 

People just got shocked due to paradigm shift happened in LLMs because of transformer model coupled with thought chains later on. But "AI" is actually inferior at it's current stage. 

I do believe it can improve but it would be a new paradigm shift. Because current mathematical model behind it has ran it's course, that's the best they can do with this paradigm. Maybe more bells and whistles will come but nothing extra-ordinary.
 

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If you think AI is not able to have a faster and deeper sense making than you in almost every topic, I don’t see how you use AI. 
Of course it depends on the model, and the way you use it. 

You misunderstood me, I'm not saying AI is not able to have faster and deeper content generation, I'm saying there is no other sense making going on in that conversation, it's giberish until someone makes a sense out of it. This is the core feature with AI, it has no direction. In that sense hallucination are a feature not bug of Models.

I think the next paradigm of Models will have an elaborate subjectivity of their own, don't know what it will look like. But i'm not going to call token generation as human level intelligence, we can do way better.

Edit: And i'm not talking ultimate conversation with yourself, take this conversation for an example there is sense making happening at your level and my level. Offcourse i'm assuming that you exist but not without some good reasons, i.e. the same that i assume for my existence. 

Edited June 27 by MutedMiles

[OBEler]

Leo can you tell what is the topic of the book.

[Terell Kirby]

@Leo Gura You mentioned in a previous blog post the importance of state in Awakening, and how more theory is useless from a certain state of consciousness.

Im inclined to think a book leans more on theory than state itself, although theory is foundational in adding essential context to those who have had Awakenings.

How will you incorporate this into your book so that readers don’t swim too much in theory, or believe they have grasps something when they have not had a genuine state change? I’d imagine some form of disclaimer or adding a chapter highlighting the limitations of the book / books in general in realizing God.

Good luck, looking forward to what comes next.

[Leo Gura]

27 minutes ago, Peo said:

You said in a video you would use 10 years to write a book, so i guess i will wait 10 years then. 

It's already been 10 years.

7 minutes ago, OBEler said:

Leo can you tell what is the topic of the book.

Understanding reality.

Edited June 27 by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

How will you incorporate this into your book so that readers don’t swim too much in theory

The correct theory is critical. That's what the book offers.

Changing your state is beyond the scope of a book.

I want people to swim deep into theory. I'm not a fucking Zen Buddhist.

Edited June 27 by Leo Gura

[Terell Kirby]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The correct theory is critical. That's what the book offers.

Changing your state is beyond the scope of a book.

Hmm .. Leo’s book sprinkled with some 5 Meo DMT seems like a potent mix for spiritual progress then . A recipe for God

[MutedMiles]

Based on conversation around AI in this thread, i'm going to recommend below video to develop deep understanding of LLMs (apart from a huge marketing campaign and momentum). 

There is frankly no one as qualified a teacher as Andrej Karpathy. You can read about him.

 

[Terell Kirby]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I'm not a fucking Zen Buddhist.

This is a what I appreciate the most about your work.

Zen Buddhist need LOVE too though .. maybe you can give them a discount on your book.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

maybe you can give them a discount on your book.

They get charged double.

[Guest Nilsi]

“It’s unlike any book ever written.” [Trump voice]

[Husseinisdoingfine]

What is the book's title going to be? And where can I buy it?

[Someone here]

@Husseinisdoingfine the title is going to be your signature 😂 

[Lucasxp64]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

For those of you who love AI, I will spin up an AI slop book and sell it to you.

😂😂😂 A lot of people are already worshipping LLMs. And it's absolutely hilarious seeing new age chicks crying on tiktok because she thinks she "awoke" spiritually her ChatGPT chat history.

 

[Jayson G]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

For those of you who love AI, I will spin up an AI slop book and sell it to you. Everyone else will get the real book.

That'll teach you.

@Leo Gura just to remind you, many months ago on 2 seperate occassions you said 1) AI is more intelligent than any human, "it's just me and AI" against the world lol or something like that .. Im not giving the exact words, but the essence of what you said, and 2) "a world-class book can be written with AI" .. and even 3) I asked you once, that do you think AI is better for workflows compared to reading, and you said definitely .. it seems your views on AI have largely shifted? your sentiment has seemed to go from like a 4/5 to a -2/5 lol ? Is that the case?

[Leo Gura]

48 minutes ago, Jayson G said:

AI is more intelligent than any human

I said it's more intelligent than many humans. Not more intelligent than an outstanding human.

You should not use AI to create revolutionary work.

Edited June 27 by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

10 hours ago, Aether Phoenix said:

You are being too narrow in the way you see AI working. You are just looking into the content you can generate. 
AI can infinitely support you in other ways than the content itself. Even if it also can support you with the content. That would be another discussion 🙂

I know exactly how I can leverage AI to write a great piece. Or images etc. I use it consistently at work every day running a construction business. I haven't attempted to master it, but I've fucked with it enough to know it is only as good as it's prompts. So theres that aspect for sure. 

But.

What I am actually talking about is Art. It's craft, the process. My mind goes to the age old statement 'Seperating the Art from the Artist.

Do you think people would revere the Mona Lisa as much if it was partially AI generated? Or do we value the labour, the skill, the knowledge applied, to it's creation? Mediums, knowing theory, form, light. Mastery. Is the Mona Lisa just a panting? Or is it the culmination of a lifetime of work? Is it about the artist?

When you think about art, we often don't seperate the art from the artist. There is reverence in something hard earned. Skill. Mastery.

It's not just all output. 

In reality often we cannot seperate the art from the artist. The person behind is as fascinating as the content itself.

I for one wouldn't put as much stock in an AI generated Mona Lisa.

I realise I am also raising the topic of Art and creation into this debate, and it goes deep.

You can have taste and vision, and this translates to your creative direction and output.

If we consider AI as a medium/tool, it is not superior. Just another medium for an artist. Like watercolour, oils. Pen and paper. 

I just view Leo as not selecting this medium/tool. 

Edited June 27 by Natasha Tori Maru

[Aether Phoenix]

10 hours ago, MutedMiles said:

People just got shocked due to paradigm shift happened in LLMs because of transformer model coupled with thought chains later on. But "AI" is actually inferior at it's current stage. 

I do believe it can improve but it would be a new paradigm shift. Because current mathematical model behind it has ran it's course, that's the best they can do with this paradigm. Maybe more bells and whistles will come but nothing extra-ordinary.
 

You misunderstood me, I'm not saying AI is not able to have faster and deeper content generation, I'm saying there is no other sense making going on in that conversation, it's giberish until someone makes a sense out of it. This is the core feature with AI, it has no direction. In that sense hallucination are a feature not bug of Models.

I think the next paradigm of Models will have an elaborate subjectivity of their own, don't know what it will look like. But i'm not going to call token generation as human level intelligence, we can do way better.

Edit: And i'm not talking ultimate conversation with yourself, take this conversation for an example there is sense making happening at your level and my level. Offcourse i'm assuming that you exist but not without some good reasons, i.e. the same that i assume for my existence. 

Even if I am an engineer that studied Artificial Intelligence, I don’t care about it. What I care is what I can achieve with it. Technical aspects are not important to the discussion if you can use AI to improve a book. 
 

I understand what you mean about sense making, I just think it is irrelevant for the context of this conversation. Should we use or not AI to work, to be creative, to write books?
If you want you can avoid AI but you will become obsolete, because the quantity and quality of work I can create with it is incomparable. 
 

That doesn’t mean that there are a lot of people creating crap with AI, there are. Nonetheless, the problem is not the AI, is the person who use it. 

I could put AI debating with you much better than me 😁
 

 

[UnbornTao]

On 6/26/2025 at 1:25 AM, Skanderb said:

@Leo Gura Can you give us an update about the course ?