How do some people have seemingly infinite energy?

[Florian]

20 hours ago, Reciprocality said:

They have infinites of energies because when they communicate with other humans their batteries gets reset from the shared understanding they feel in presence of each other and can do this uninterrupted by the toxicity of grand narratives and such coping mechanisms that certain others have to deal with when they try to interpret the signs that got lost on them decades ago.

That kinda sounds true to me

[Florian]

8 minutes ago, UpperMaster said:

Okay, I just don't understand what the take away of this message is?

What now I shouldn't prioritize health, like why even say that. 

Or is this just a truth statement? (oh even your ability to put in effort and fix health is genetic, so everything is genetic)

bad lifestyle can hundred percent ruin your health also, you obviously know that because you preached it. I feel like I'm completely missing your message. 

 

 

 

I think he is just in a bad spot right now which corrupts some of his communications 

[Florian]

I think Leo is basically black-pilled health wise at this point

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Health is 99% genetics, 1% effort?

Busted statement. 

Oversimplification. Mostly false for the general population. 

 

 

 

[something_else]

Some people are lucky that they have a kind of natural motivation and drive. Some other people are lucky that they find their purpose in life early. There are lots of different reasons. Generally people who seem to have crazy energy levels are very internally motivated and don't need to burn through a lot of willpower to stay motivated.

A lot of us are externally motivated and we need to burn through our willpower reserves to keep motivated, which is not sustainable and burns you out.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, UpperMaster said:

I just don't understand what the take away of this message is?

You are so busy looking for a takeaway you're missing reality.

OP asked a good question. I supplied the precise answer. The rest of you are lost whining about it.

Edited June 27 by Leo Gura

[UpperMaster]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You are so busy looking for a takeaway you're missing reality.

What does that mean? Is my intention wrong? 

I haven't gone through what you've gone through to understand and explore the reality of genetics. I also don't expect you to explain how you got to that conclusion in some random thread. 

But bro, a little context to why you think this way would be nice. How can I ever genuinely assess your observations on reality if you don't explain how you got there. I don't remember a blog or video on this topic, maybe you discussed it in another thread, I don't recall. Not trying to be a smart ass, I know you know that context is necceceary,  I just don't understand what you want me do. 

Edited June 27 by UpperMaster

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, UpperMaster said:

a little context to why you think this way would be nice.

The difference between you and a chimpanzee is 2% difference in DNA.

How important do you think genetics are to what you are?

[OBEler]

9 hours ago, AION said:

It is mostly genetics and nutrition. I have unlimited energy but now I think about. A big part of it is sexual transmutation. People think it is just my genetics and youthfulness but I know better. 

@gengar 

 

 

@aion can you explain? How does sexual transmutation look for you.

[UpperMaster]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The difference between you and a chimpanzee is 2% difference in DNA.

How important do you think genetics are to what you are?

From my understanding, genetics allows you to do anything. Thats like asking how important is a computer when it comes to coding. You can't code without a computer. I believe you made this clear in threads before and I agree with you.

But then you said that health is 99% Genetics and 1% Effort.  If you'd ask me, I wouldn't even separate the two, because Genetics is what allows you to put any effort. Without genetics, you can't put any effort. 

But you made that separation between genetics and effort in your statement. 

so I don't understand what 1% Effort even means here? I assumed that you were saying that 99% of your health depends on factors you can't control, and 1 % on factors you can control (in a practical sense, thats why I thought you were giving practical advice).

 

From the experience and information I have now, and your teachings years ago, living a healthy lifestyle, having good sleep and diet can help you immensely in living a healthier life. That's why I questioned you judgment initially and asked you to provide context. 

Edited June 27 by UpperMaster

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, UpperMaster said:

From the experience and information I have now, and your teachings years ago, living a healthy lifestyle, having good sleep and diet can help you immensely in living a healthier life.

That doesn't contradict what I said. Within that 1% you can do quite a bit. But no effort will make you Tony Robbins.

[AION]

19 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@gengar 

 

 

@aion can you explain? How does sexual transmutation look for you.

It feels like a fountain of energy at my crotch. I’m not kidding.  

[UpperMaster]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That doesn't contradict what I said. Within that 1% you can do quite a bit. But no effort will make you Tony Robbins.

ahhh, so for you 1% is actually not a small percentage, because your looking at genetics from a wider perspective. Thats why you gave the chimpanzee example. 2% change in genetics could mean the difference between a human and a chimpanzee, and so even a little effort could (potentially) also mean the difference between a healthy individual and an unhealthy one. 

That said, small changes in genetics could mean big differences in health, temperament and bodily function, as seen with Tony Robbins. 

Thats your claim right?

Edited June 27 by UpperMaster

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, UpperMaster said:

so even a little effort could (potentially) also mean the difference between a healthy individual and an unhealthy one.

Health is asymmetrical. It's very easy to lose and nearly impossible to create.

The effort part is not losing whatever health you got from genetics. But if genetics didn't give it to you, you ain't gonna create it with effort.

Effort just means not doing dumb shit to destroy your health.

Edited June 27 by Leo Gura

[UpperMaster]

Okay, I understand

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Health is asymmetrical. It's very easy to lose and nearly impossible to create.

The effort part is not losing whatever health you got from genetics. But if genetics didn't give it to you, you ain't gonna create it with effort.

Effort just means not doing dumb shit to destroy your health.

 

[Florian]

47 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The difference between you and a chimpanzee is 2% difference in DNA.

How important do you think genetics are to what you are?

And I think you miss the significance of that 2%, as well as the 1% in the "health = 99% genetics, 1% Effort, the 1% has control over the rest of the 99% Edit: it has the potential to control the rest of the 99%

 

Edited June 27 by Florian

[Davino]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The difference between you and a chimpanzee is 2% difference in DNA.

How important do you think genetics are to what you are?

When they told this to an old man from my rural village years ago, he said out loud: Omg what a 2%!!!

[Socrates]

On 6/26/2025 at 9:44 AM, Leo Gura said:

It's the genetics, stupid.

 

Limiting belief even through a materialistic paradigm, let alone a spiritual one

[OBEler]

14 minutes ago, Socrates said:

Limiting belief even through a materialistic paradigm, let alone a spiritual one

I think that's Leos black pill he was talking about. He discovered that genetics really matters. And people here are not ready to hear that. Therefore this aggressive tone towards that insight.

[Joshe]

19 minutes ago, OBEler said:

He discovered that genetics really matters. And people here are not ready to hear that. Therefore this aggressive tone towards that insight.

No one argued genetics don't matter. They just argue that it does not account for 99% of health outcomes. That position is impossible to even steelman because of how absurd it is. If you can't see the absurdity, well, I suggest contemplating whether or not you're offloading too much of your thinking to an authority figure. 

Plug the position into any advanced AI and watch what happens. Ask it "Does this text contain any fallacies? If so, explain them all." His text in this thread alone contains like 5 fallacies. Sorry if this is earth-shattering, but this should be like common sense stuff. 

"If genetics alone explained exceptional vitality, identical twins—who share 100% of their DNA—should have nearly identical health, energy, and lifespans. But they often don’t. One can become obese while the other stays lean, one may develop heart disease while the other doesn't, or one lives decades longer. These aren’t isolated cases—they’re the norm in population studies. That alone shows genes set a range, not a destiny. So when people point to rare outliers like Trump or McAfee as proof that effort is irrelevant, they’re ignoring the mountain of evidence showing that environment, behavior, and even luck play massive roles—even among people with identical genetic "blueprints.""

"The allure of genetic determinism lies in its simplicity. It offers a ready-made explanation and absolves individuals of responsibility. But biology doesn’t support this view. Health, behavior, and even personality are not puppet shows—nor are they blank slates. They are dynamic systems influenced by both nature and nurture, shaped over time through feedback loops of action and adaptation.