How do some people have seemingly infinite energy?

[cistanche_enjoyer]

Is it simply genetics?

I’m talking about people like Donald Trump, John Mcafee, the Rock, etc. in the celebrity realm. And even my Uncle

My Uncle smokes 20 cigarettes a day, drinks probably 250 ml whiskey daily, and he has been doing it for 40 years. He sleeps only for like 5 hours. He’s now 60, and he has remarkable energy levels. He’s active for like 16-18 hours a day, no joke. Also I’ve literally never seen him fall sick. Not even once. All he eats is junk food

Mcafee has said during his days building the antivirus software, he would go days without sleep. He did so even during his 70s, RIP

Trump, who is almost 80 years old, apparently never exercises, sleeps only 3-4 hours a day on average, never drinks water, 12 diet cokes a day, highly processed food diet. All of this has been confirmed by Dana White, and many others. Sometimes he doesn’t sleep for 2-3 days even. Even his medical records are immaculate. Though he has said he’s never smoked or had alcohol.

Despite all this, he seems to have an amazing level of energy, to get everything done.

Is it possible to achieve this power?

[LambdaDelta]

Yes, those kinds of exceptional cases are largely genetics. Similar to IQ and many other variables this roughly follows the Gauss distribution; these are several standard deviations removed from the mean, for proper sense-making you still need to account for them, but they're anomalies. I also know a guy in his 70s, he works for probably 18 hours a day as a construction engineer with his small but busy business, doesn't exercise, has almost perfect eyesight and posture despite spending so much time crouched drawing blueprints, has never been ill in his entire life, so much so he doesn't even know the difference between heart rate and blood pressure. Doesn't know the meaning of stress, while under constant pressure I've never seen him anxious or agitated at all; his pupils always remain the same tiny dots, no shift whatsoever when I informed him he may be facing a 100k fine and lose his company, nor when he's telling extremely obvious lies while maintaining full eye contact. Could pass any polygraph test without a hitch. 

Motivation, ambition, determination, and so on play a role, but not a decisive one. Just look at Leo, he's more passionate about his work than any of those guys, yet getting fucked by disease cuts tons of potential accomplishments at the root. No amount of spiritual work can get one good metabolism or proper hormonal balance, and whatever external changes of nutrition/medication/environment can at most shift things like 40% up or down. Even the power of (self)healing appears to be genetic, it won't unlock for just anyone, with God Consciousness or not.

Best you can do is maximize the results within own constraints, this can be very non-trivial and take a long time to figure out. Getting physically fit only improved my lethargy by maybe 10%, acquiring a deep sense of life purpose another 10, and then taking speed for ADD doubled those effects in a flash. But this doesn't work separately, if I only did the stims I'd just be tweaking out wasting time focusing on pointless stuff, eventually get back into a rut of a different kind, depressed, plus get my heart fucked much faster without the necessary prior conditioning. Compensating for deficiencies brings its own set of tradeoffs. I can see other ways to optimize, though some will take years to actualize, some issues will never fully go away, and a few I'm not even aware of nor will ever be (due to time limits, bias, whatever). 

[Salvijus]

The denser your conciousness is, the more robust and insensitive your body is to crudeness be it physical substances or negative emotions. As your conciousness become more subtle, your body becomes less dense aswell and your ability to tolerate unconicous behavior goes down. Life begins to demand more responsibility from you. 

[blankisomeone]

because life makes no sense

[Schizophonia]

They like life, they have a life path.

 

[Schizophonia]

There are also people with a "sanguine" personality; more energetic and robust than the average person in general.
It's in their DNA, with the downsides who comes with given that everything is polarized. 

 

Edited Wednesday at 08:40 PM by Schizophonia

[Deziree]

Brain is a muscle and it's how you exercise this muscle. Type A personalities exercise it way too much. That's how they get things done besides raw genetics. Then it becomes a habit once they are in a feedback loop.

[Princess Arabia]

8 hours ago, blankisomeone said:

because life makes no sense

Bingo

[Princess Arabia]

Any answer anybody gives other than the Absolute nothingness that is, can appear however it wants because it is totally free to be so and this is total anarchy and doesn't make any sense, will be a story. All stories and made up shit. The answer is total freedom appearing, appearing as any and everything. We use the senses to make sense of what we think we're in relation to. There's no relation to anything and it's all immediate and without true cause and effect. There are no rules to this.

Edited Thursday at 04:40 AM by Princess Arabia

[OBEler]

Maybe god dreamed them up too perfect to give you some inspiration.

[Leo Gura]

As I keep saying:

It's the genetics, stupid.

No one will ever understand how fundamental genetics are to everything.

Once you understand genetics, it all makes sense.

Health is 99% genetics. 1% effort.

Edited Thursday at 06:45 AM by Leo Gura

[emil1234]

10 hours ago, Salvijus said:

The denser your conciousness is, the more robust and insensitive your body is to crudeness be it physical substances or negative emotions. As your conciousness become more subtle, your body becomes less dense aswell and your ability to tolerate unconicous behavior goes down. Life begins to demand more responsibility from you. 

this is probably the truest thing ive ever read. increased consciousness is the biggest energy boost you'll ever experience as well. its absolutley ridicolus the amount of energy that becomes available when the mind stops consuming it on useless noise

Edited Thursday at 06:59 AM by emil1234

[cistanche_enjoyer]

29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Health is 99% genetics. 1% effort.

Joe Dispenza talks a lot about genes and how it’s possible to change them and their expressions. Accordingly, many people have healed incurable diseases like a miracle by following his methods.

What do you think of him?

 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

What do you think of him?

I think it's BS that's great for selling books to rubes.

Edited Thursday at 07:19 AM by Leo Gura

[Twentyfirst]

Check out this book

The Hypomanic Edge: The Link Between (A Little) Craziness and (A Lot of) Success in America

Hypomania, a genetically based mild form of mania, endows many of us with unusual energy, creativity, enthusiasm, and a propensity for taking risks. America has an extraordinarily high number of hypomanics—grandiose types who leap on every wacky idea that occurs to them, utterly convinced it will change the world. Market bubbles and ill-considered messianic crusades can be the downside. But there is an enormous upside in terms of spectacular entrepreneurial zeal, drive for innovation, and material success. Americans may have a lot of crazy ideas, but some of them lead to brilliant inventions.

Why is America so hypomanic? It is populated primarily by immigrants. This self-selection process is the boldest natural experiment ever conducted. Those who had the will, optimism, and daring to take the leap into the unknown have passed those traits on to their descendants.

Bringing his audacious and persuasive thesis to life, Gartner offers case histories of some famous Americans who represent this phenomenon of hypomania. These are the real stories you never learned in school about some of those men who made America: Columbus, who discovered the continent, thought he was the messiah. John Winthrop, who settled and defined it, believed Americans were God’s new chosen people. Alexander Hamilton, the indispensable founder who envisioned America’s economic future, self-destructed because of pride and impulsive behavior. Andrew Carnegie, who began America's industrial revolution, was sure that he was destined personally to speed up human evolution and bring world peace. The Mayer and Selznick families helped create the peculiarly American art form of the Hollywood film, but familial bipolar disorders led to the fall of their empires. Craig Venter decoded the human genome, yet his arrogance made him despised by most of his scientific colleagues, even as he spurred them on to make great discoveries.

While these men are extraordinary examples, Gartner argues that many Americans have inherited the genes that have made them the most successful citizens in the world.

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I think it's BS that's great for selling books to rubes.

There are tons of testimonials on his YouTube accounts and elsewhere on internet.

He himself comes from damaged spine. 

Edited Thursday at 11:00 AM by Schizophonia

[abc123]

I wanted to ask AI about this:

Genetics confers baseline potential. It defines physiological thresholds, not outcomes. Outliers exist, but they are not templates. Behavior, environment, epigenetics, microbiome interactions, stochastic cell processes—these all modulate expression and longevity.

Your uncle, Trump, McAfee, etc., are anecdotal survivorship artifacts. Visible because they survived. Countless others with identical lifestyles died young, unnoticed. Survivor bias distorts perceived patterns.

Energy levels ≠ health. Asymptomatic organ decline, arterial calcification, neurodegeneration—these often manifest late or never clinically. High energy in old age doesn’t equate to internal system integrity.

Health is not 99% genetics. Twin studies, GWAS, and epigenomic mapping show complex polygenic influence interlocked with lifestyle. Estimates vary, but genetic heritability of most chronic diseases ranges between 20-60%, not 99%. The rest is environment, behavior, randomness.

Conclusion: high-functioning outliers exist, but they do not negate biology’s statistical distributions. Emulation without understanding leads to failure or collapse.

Edited Thursday at 12:07 PM by abc123

[UnbornTao]

One possibility - maybe not entirely relevant to your point - is that they simply take action, consistently. They focus on action rather than the plethora of activities that don't contribute much - and that may even displace action.

We usually think that mental activities such as worrying, planning, thinking about doing something, desiring, complaining, resisting, procrastinating, justifying, judging - all that - are actually accomplishing something useful, or are the same as simply doing what needs to be done. But they're not. We could shift into a 'doing' mode - where only the appropriate action is taken in the moment, as best as we can. Washing the dishes is washing the dishes - resisting it, making excuses, planning it, procrastinating, idealizing it - none of that is the act of washing the dishes. It's a simple principle on paper - but a powerful one. And that was just a minor example.

Now consider everything you do - mostly with your mind, though you can include the body too - that is ineffective, that drains your energy, and that isn't simply taking the required action in the moment. There's likely a lot to be found in that domain. If you can stop doing that - then you'll have increased presence and energy.

Edited Thursday at 10:59 PM by UnbornTao

[CosmicExplorer]

Phenotype. It's extremely important and underrated. On the extremes of normal distribution, wild stuff is happening.

Characteristics of the hyperthymic temperament include:

increased energy and productivity

short sleep patterns

self-assurance, self-confidence

talkativeness

risk-taking/sensation seeking

love of attention

cheerfulness and joviality

expansiveness

tirelessness

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthymic_temperament

Imagine that this is your chronic baseline in life

Edited Thursday at 01:17 PM by CosmicExplorer

[cistanche_enjoyer]

Why isn’t this studied more?

Couldn’t this be somehow recreated with supplements, or some advanced genetic therapy?