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How do some people have seemingly infinite energy?

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They have infinites of energies because when they communicate with other humans their batteries gets reset from the shared understanding they feel in presence of each other and can do this uninterrupted by the toxicity of grand narratives and such coping mechanisms that certain others have to deal with when they try to interpret the signs that got lost on them decades ago.

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Collections of thoughts and ideas get anchored to specific beliefs to form a “why” to live. The thoughts, beliefs, and the “why” are buried in the subconscious. This body of stuff buried in the mind has an impact on energy. The degree of impact depends on one’s cognitive functioning. I’m sure there are other factors but this seems a good starting point. 

There’s a psychic schema by which these folks unconsciously operate. It’s not so much genetics as it is configuration of mind. Genetics predispose but don't necessarily lock you in.

Mind and it's orientation can be changed. Have you ever switched mindsets and had a sudden shift in energy? Felt tired and some recognition of something obliterated the tiredness? How does that happen? How does what feels like heavy pressure all of a sudden dissipate from a shift in perception or perspective? 

I suspect the way you use and orient your mind, or the way it uses you, is the largest factor. 

1. Wim Hof studies

  • Participants trained by Hof were able to consciously influence their immune response (modulate cytokine release) under endotoxin exposure—something long thought to be automatic.
  • This suggests the mind can override elements of autonomic regulation.

2. Placebo / Nocebo effects

  • Belief alone can produce measurable shifts in pain, hormone levels, and performance.
  • Some individuals show stronger placebo responses than others—possibly due to belief structure and cognitive flexibility.

3. Meditation and neuroplasticity

  • Long-term meditators show altered brain structures and baseline cortisol levels.
  • Emotional reactivity and even inflammatory markers can shift from disciplined mind training.

4. Epigenetics

  • Thought patterns and stress levels influence gene expression. There's strong evidence for this in chronic trauma, but also in positive interventions.

5. Psychosomatic illness

  • Entire disease states can emerge or vanish based on belief, trauma, or subconscious orientation (e.g., conversion disorder, tension myositis syndrome).
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9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

As I keep saying:

It's the genetics, stupid.

No one will ever understand how fundamental genetics are to everything.

Once you understand genetics, it all makes sense.

Health is 99% genetics. 1% effort.

Stop dangerously spreading disinformation to your audience. You haven't researched this properly and you're not a medical expert or researcher at all.

There is no way you can know this. It's shocking to see how bad you treat your epistemology, and spout false conclusions to your thousands of followers.

furthermore, the arrogance of saying "No one will ever understand how fundamental genetics are to everything." , as if you are the only one who magically found this out, while others are in denial about it or simply haven't seen the truth of it, is astounding. You really think you're the only who "knows" this? it's not even possible to know it because you can't figure out the cause of things with precision and look inside people's genes.

You're doing your silly yet dangerous game of playing this edgelord, truth-revealer character again, Leo. feeling special because you are the one magically dropping all these truth bombs that others don't want to hear. When the reality is many of those "truths" are not possible to know at all by an individual like you, and many are also relative, like saying all men equate sex with hot women with hotter sex and that there are no other factors that a woman has that can make sex with a woman hotter or less hot. and you make that blanket statement about all men.

many of your dropped "truths" are either not true at all, dangerously simplified, or things that are impossible for you to know, like knowing the amount of stars in the universe.

And it's clear you're doing it in this perverted, edgelord manner to shock people and "destroy their fantasies", and make yourself feel superior by being the only one who is able to stomach these truths or even look for them. when the facts are that you don't know what you're talking about. You're not some polymath knowledgeable in things like health and genetics. stick to your metaphysical epistemology, because your epistemology in the relative world is not at all on an even acceptable level.

You're really crossing the line, and treading into dangerous territory.
 

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48 minutes ago, gengar said:

like saying all men equate sex with hot women with hotter sex and that there are no other factors that a woman has that can make sex with a woman hotter or less hot. and you make that blanket statement about all men.

Yeah, that was a bit absurd to me. It's the ego mind that says hotter is better, because it sees it as a trophy to make oneself feel special. I for one prefer sex with a 6 where there's a good chemistry than sex with a 10 and weak chemistry. And he comes out and claims to know this is false. 

What is happening is, he has a high NFC and loves discovering novel insights. I assume most here do, but the more developed don't treat novel insights like trophies to hold over others. Rather than being like "hey y'all, what do you think about this insight". He says "I've discovered yet another insight (trophy) that you guys didn't because you don't have access to states of mind like I do."

Plug his last 10 blog posts into an AI and tell it to give you an FBI Profiler style report on it. The results aren't good. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for the longest time that he wasn't fueled by ego, narcissism, and grandiosity, but it's clear now these are dominant in deer leader. The amount of people who enable and fuel this is cringe AF.

"Oh please, please dear leader, tell us all your juiciest insights!"

"That's pure gold dear leader. How you come up with this stuff is amazing. You truly are the wisest person in existence and I'm so thankful to know you."

 Not such a high-consciousness community after all in my opinion. 

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@Leo Gura Are you including mitochondrial DNA in that statistic? I believe they are really foundational to health. Some people have genetically more robust mitochondria that can withstand the onslaught of modern life.

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13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Health is 99% genetics. 1% effort.

I think thats false. From my own experience and people like Bryan Johnson. 

I feel a lot better and stable when my sleep schedule is fixed and I good sleep quality + I stick 100% to my diet and exercise

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Building on what others have already shared, I want to add another perspective:

It can be the case that people with high energy are actually fueled by a trauma response. It occurs because the psyche makes itself stay at a high stress level mode through a dysregulated nervous system, e.g. fight or flight, in order to suppress emotional triggers and painful trauma memories from coming to awareness. This mode can be called functional freeze.

People can also live from an awakened state of free joy, clarity and spiritual connection.

Some are naturally more sensitive to reward because they have high dopaminergic tone where the activity in their dopaminergic areas is higher. Downside is that they also get bored more easily during downtime.

 

What you can do:

Dial in your mitochondrial health for more sustained energy through cold exposure, exercise, clean diet, fasting,...

Optimize your circadian rhythm

Learn to modulate stress and dopamine

Remove energy drains like poor diet, chronic inflammation,...

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15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

As I keep saying:

It's the genetics, stupid.

No one will ever understand how fundamental genetics are to everything.

Once you understand genetics, it all makes sense.

Health is 99% genetics. 1% effort.

You keep saying this as if genetics are the beginning of your physical experience. 
I understand how hard it feels to beat genetics, but the critical question is: 
What is prior to genetics? 

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11 hours ago, CosmicExplorer said:

Phenotype. It's extremely important and underrated. On the extremes of normal distribution, wild stuff is happening.

Characteristics of the hyperthymic temperament include:

increased energy and productivity

short sleep patterns

self-assurance, self-confidence

talkativeness

risk-taking/sensation seeking

love of attention

cheerfulness and joviality

expansiveness

tirelessness

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthymic_temperament

Imagine that this is your chronic baseline in life

That's Tony Robbins in a nutshell.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

As I keep saying:

It's the genetics, stupid.

No one will ever understand how fundamental genetics are to everything.

Once you understand genetics, it all makes sense.

Health is 99% genetics. 1% effort.

@Leo Gura you say this a lot, but I dont think you account for a lot of other factors. 

When I write software, I work from 5 hours a day to 10 to 14 hours a day because I'm engaged, and locked in. 

How can you say health and energy is 99% genetic when there are so many other factors? I do get your point that genetics is more important than one thinks, but to say 99% genetics to me implies you are saying 2 things: 1) There's not much you can do to change your life situations. When that is not true. You can achieve incredibly results through consistent effort in almost all areas of life. But yes, I know you are optimizing within your genetics, but still that statement of 99% genetics being health doesn't seem to hold at all. 2) What about so many other factors? Your beliefs, habits, etc. 

Someone who works out, gets a lot more testosterone, sunlight, veggies, yoga, etc. also doesn't just have better habits, he or she is (from what I understand) influencing the chemistry, biology, and even genes that get activated vs. ones that stay dormant (I vaguely recall learning something like this)

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It is mostly genetics and nutrition. I have unlimited energy but now I think about. A big part of it is sexual transmutation. People think it is just my genetics and youthfulness but I know better. 


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Some people do find a weird balance in life which works for them. They are just courageous enough to try stuff and intelligent enough to stick with it. Basically it's a perfect combination of desire fulfilling, virtues and vices,  many try to do that, very few grow into that balance like a perfect system with just enough negativity and positivity to function efficiently.

In that context instinct is actually becomes evolved intelligence, But let's not ignore that majority who try all that smoking, drinking and junk end-up on a familiar trajectory of a terrible life.

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5 hours ago, Jayson G said:

How can you say health and energy is 99% genetic when there are so many other factors?

If I randomly changed even 1% of your genetics you'd drop dead within 30 seconds.

All of your other factors assume genetics.

You are a genetic puppet living out a fantasy.

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37 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

All of your other factors assume genetics.

Yes, but these other factors, even if they account for only 1% compared to genetics, can still have significant implications.

Maybe you’re a bit self-biased if you have really bad genetics, but for people with regular genetics, improving the diet, taking targeted supplements, detoxing, having a proper social life, etc. can still have a huge impact.

Didn’t you have periods in life when you had more energy? What do you think caused it?

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If I randomly changed even 1% of your genetics you'd drop dead within 30 seconds.

All of your other factors assume genetics.

You are a genetic puppet living out a fantasy.

As far as I know genetics also react to your efforts like the classic diet, sleep, excercise and then also your experience and emotions.

I think one of the most important factors when it comes to health is simply consistency, especially with sleep and diet. If you always change these habits then your microbiome never really has the chance to become stable which leads which I suspect might be your problem. If I remember correctly you built a rather unstable foundation in your youth (until 25) and then even after you started self-Actualization work you did night-time pick-up which destroys sleep stability, propably changed diet a few times, did tons of psychedelics that completely shake the stability of your psyche and in general propably experienced so much more stress on your system then the average person (work related and also just holding your integrity in the public eye). No wonder now your microbiome and thus your health is fucked and nothing seems to work. Even stuff like Joe Dispenzas miracle healing require a certain foundation to build upon. If you fuck up your body and mind for 10 years then you propably need an equivilant amount of energy to build it back up, even though if you completly focus on your health it will propably be less (look at Bryan Johnson). I think Bryan Johnson could actually help you tremendously.

@Leo Gura

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On 6/26/2025 at 10:44 AM, Leo Gura said:

As I keep saying:

It's the genetics, stupid.

No one will ever understand how fundamental genetics are to everything.

Once you understand genetics, it all makes sense.

Health is 99% genetics. 1% effort.

I'm not sure if that's the complete picture, from my own life there was a period of three years from 2017 to 2020 that i had infinite energy. I was doing everything and it was all going well. Never before or after in my life i had such energy not even in by teenage years. And I was way past my prime in terms of age and health at that time.

I think i know what it was.

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If I randomly changed even 1% of your genetics you'd drop dead within 30 seconds.

All of your other factors assume genetics.

You are a genetic puppet living out a fantasy.

Okay, I just don't understand what the take away of this message is?

What now I shouldn't prioritize health, like why even say that. 

Or is this just a truth statement? (oh even your ability to put in effort and fix health is genetic, so everything is genetic)

bad lifestyle can hundred percent ruin your health also, you obviously know that because you preached it. I feel like I'm completely missing your message. 

 

 

 

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