cistanche_enjoyer

The reason sages and mystics go celibate

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Is it simply because once you fully experience God's Love, any other lower type of love pales in comparison?

Are human (romantic) relationships ultimately an obstacle to God?

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Because it's false.

Most of mystics had sexual relationships apart from an ascetic minority.

Edited by Schizophonia

Nothing will prevent Willy.

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Here is a view from a swami of the Ramakrishna Math.  

“Much nonsense is written and spoken nowadays about love-relations between members of family being Divine.  Nothing of the kind.  To all intents and purposes they are all Maya, that is to say, they all bind and lead astray, and do not confer spiritual freedom.  Hence it is clear that a householder’s spiritual path in not strewn with roses.  He cannot easily overcome the charm of his domestic emotions.  These prove a great hindrance.  They make him forget God.  Then there is the question of Brahmacharya (continence).  It is absolutely necessary to practice continence in order to progress spiritually.” 

Spiritual Practice by Swami Ashokananda


Vincit omnia Veritas.

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1 hour ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

Is it simply because once you fully experience God's Love, any other lower type of love pales in comparison?

Are human (romantic) relationships ultimately an obstacle to God?

Yes. Usually in high states of consciousness you are not thinking of relationships at all. You are so HERE in the moment, this moment is so profound and intense that you cannot think of human endeavors. But when you come down, and go to a more baseline level you may start to want human connections again.

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1 hour ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

Is it simply because once you fully experience God's Love, any other lower type of love pales in comparison?

Are human (romantic) relationships ultimately an obstacle to God?

Heck no sex is still amazing.   


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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No, is because chasing or even being available for relationships/sex requires an important amount of attention and distracts you  from the work.

 

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Sex was never meant to lead to happiness.   I know a neo tantra guru who is miserable.  He is just entangling himself in other peoples bad karma for temporary pleasure.  It doesn’t work.   And you have all the legions of gurus who take advantage of their female followers, including Sadhguru.  They are all fakes and will lead you astray.  The Swamis of Ramakrishna mission take celibacy seriously.


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Romantic human relationships are an expression of love. Energy expressed as love. There are no obstacles to God; and no one experiences God's love. It's all total and there are no entities separate to be real obstacles. All there is is Totality. Experience is an illusion that the separate sense feels is happening and that there is a world moving through time because there's no continuity.   It's illusory and all there is is Unconditional love. Boundless, timeless, unconditionally everything. God doesn't have a love for someone to experience. Everything is that which is nothing appearing, even the thought of there being obstacles is all there is. Everything is all there is. 


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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Whats God jerking off to? You are either fking a woman which entails ownership. Thats an action of going out and getting something you make up you dont have. Or delusion into fantasy. Sex dosent exist when you are currently not having it.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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Mystics use to do celibate because mysticism is the true opening to yourself. If you are attached to anyone you get closed easily. sex really means creation of a new life, and this ties you in the human matrix, in the meaning. You could think: yes but you could have sex without do kids. But seems wrong, impure. It's a magic act, something that vibrates in eternity, then have sex just for fun seems wrong . That's shame because sex is great, but If you want openess, you can't do wrong things. Wrong is something that you feel that is wrong. Maybe some kind of sex that seems not wrong could appear, maybe not, who knows? Misticism means be one with the flow, then the flow decides

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Sex is problematic. Whether done for procreation or recreation. It divides you and depletes you. Unconducive to truth. Mainly because the other person is deceived even with the best purest will in the world. Sex has nothing to do with love. There's your deception. Good luck getting someone to swallow that. In summation, better to stand aside. The exception I say is when you finish the work. Then maybe it can be helpful and interesting.

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2 hours ago, gettoefl said:

Sex is problematic. Whether done for procreation or recreation. It divides you and depletes you. Unconducive to truth. Mainly because the other person is deceived even with the best purest will in the world. Sex has nothing to do with love. There's your deception. Good luck getting someone to swallow that. In summation, better to stand aside. The exception I say is when you finish the work. Then maybe it can be helpful and interesting.

As far as I'm concerned Tantra sex is about Love, but almost nobody does it. 

Edited by Javfly33

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Pimpin hoes ain’t easy. It requires a certain amount of energy and time from the day. Some people would prefer to meditate than maintain relationships. From a certain perspective it’s fine. You don’t need a relationship to complete you. At the same time, if you are being responsible for what you value, I’d imagine that would include some sex and relationships since those are nice things which are a part of life. So honor that. It doesn’t make you less spiritual and trying to imitate people you label as sages and mystics comes with its own problems as well. If it’s authentic for you to have sex, have it. Do so consciously. That’s all. 

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On 6/22/2025 at 1:17 PM, Schizophonia said:

Because it's false.

Most of mystics had sexual relationships apart from an ascetic minority.

Same with priests 

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