Why Women Prefer Betas

[Princess Arabia]

47 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They are having sex with the top 10% of men.

Top 10% of men get 80% of women. Women are all sharing the top men because the top men don't commit, women just rotate through.

How many kids can ride one marry-go-round?

How many girls have slept with Leonardo Di Caprio?

Do the math

Ok, you're right....meanwhile daddy O getting laid over there by Susie B. Too many speculations and assumptions and calculations. Top 10% of men sure are worn out. That's what I'm saying comparing to Leonardo Di Caprio while Thomas down the street getting his ting-a-ling done by Maryjane up the block. 

[Leo Gura]

How convenient that women forget how to calculate when the question of numbers comes up.

[Princess Arabia]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

How convenient that women forget how to calculate when the question of numbers comes up.

Not numbers in cash. The rest is irrelevant. 

[Lyubov]

One thing I want to say is I try to hold these concepts loosely and not take them too seriously. Alpha and beta aren't exactly the nicest labels and they are very much open for interpretation. A lot of strange discussions in here where it seems like everyone is talking past each other and trying to make a different point. I have noticed that women, not all, but a decent % will sleep around and then come their late 20s to early 30s will get serious and definitely start being more conservative with their sexuality. The irony here is that basically the men who then get her now are having a woman who has slept a lot around, and what makes a woman sexually special to a man is her being exclusive. Of all the men who tried to get her, it was only you and maybe a select other few that could. This is a punch in the gut, men do NOT want a woman that lots of other men had. It ruins the intimacy and takes what is special about her away for men. "Alphas" basically have first dibs at this and get it quickly and a lot of it. So when it comes time to settle down you can usually assume a woman who is hitting that special age, has a lot of bodies if she is showing all the red flags for it. I've noticed basically there are women who aren't so sexual who seem to just not sleep around so much, and then those who shacked up early and got married early or were in a few really long term relationships, rare because of the heartbreak, most people don't have it in them to go through a massive break up like that multiple times. So naturally you can see the oil split from the water and there is more oil than water... You can assume about 50-70% of the time a woman that has been partying and is in her late 20s has easily hit a body count of 25+ guys. This is not nice for men!! Most men do not wants that. And I feel bad for the sorry guys who have been warped to think that shit is acceptable. I can barely accept this myself but it's also important to see past this and see how the woman has matured. Some actually mature and do make for a good partner but some stay stuck in their party faze and just rack up more and more bodies, I noticed these are the one who find a guy to manipulate most instead of seek a better partnership.  

[Puer Aeternus]

Maaaan. 

If you ever wanna realize how deeply the map isn't the territory. Read one of these gender/dating threads.

It's such incomplete waff, spend your whole life trying to understand this and you won't come close. Always some lurking emotional baggage, half-truths, regurgitated clichés, and folks proclaiming their limited experience to be the holy truth of all reality.

Really makes me not take myself serious at all. All my theorizing is just for funzies it doesn't really mean anything. Even if better modeling of reality is practical, it'll never truly touch reality.

Now I want to go sit in a corner, stfu, and just be.

 

[Lyubov]

Yeah, I do agree. I think at the end of the day I try to just enjoy what I have and not put labels on it and model it too much. If a relationship is going well, don't sabotage it and just let it be. I think it's interesting to think about this stuff but at the end of the day just try the best for ourselves. I just don't want to see men or women used by some shady people out there who want to have their cake and eat it too. Both men and women have to be careful who they choose. 

[Emerald]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

They are having sex with the top 10% of men.

Top 10% of men get 80% of women. Women are all sharing the top men because the top men don't commit, women just rotate through.

How many kids can ride one marry-go-round?

How many girls have slept with Leonardo Di Caprio?

Do the math

That's just not an accurate reflection of how average men and women actually relate together in real life, at all.

And you should be more responsible and let young men know that those statistics are false.

You're just making all these young nerdy guys lose hope that a woman will ever prefer and love them, when the reality of male/female relationships is actually much kinder to average men... as long as they don't make themselves anti-social through all this man-cult propaganda brainwashing.

And these men only become un-dateable only because their mind has been "ran-through" with internet propaganda.

You need to go into a Walmart sometime. Then, you'll see how people really operate if you can look past your filters.

Look around at all the husbands in the world. Do you really think they're the top 10% of men?

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Look around at all the husbands in the world. Do you really think they're the top 10% of men?

I think these guys are referring to their dream hot barbie dolls. That's the "they" they're referring to. "They're screwing the top 10% Kens. 

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Look around at all the husbands in the world. Do you really think they're the top 10% of men?

They are the betas in question -- settled for.

A lot of people have quite low standards and will settle for anything they can get.

Walmart is beta-ville

And yes, I do have a bias for what we might call top-tier dating. If you wanna date riff-faff, that is much less of an issue.

Dating gets exponentially more competitive the higher one's standards.

Edited June 10 by Leo Gura

[Emerald]

16 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I think these guys are referring to their dream hot barbie dolls. That's the "they" they're referring to. "They're screwing the top 10% Kens. 

True. It's honestly just carbon-copy projection of their own tendencies onto women.

Literally every accusation is a confession.

They are like, "All the women that I like are sleeping with the top 10% of guys."

Meanwhile, it's like the top 10% of women looks-wise that they want. So, of course these women are with the top 10% of guys because those guys are their match attractiveness-wise.

And because they want the top 10% of women, but they can't get them. They might settle for a more average-looking girl who they are with begrudgingly because the top 10% of women won't have anything to do with them.

Then they're like, "Women only like the top 10% of men. And then they just settle for the average guys when the top guys won't have them."

And then they're like, "I wish I could be promiscuous and screw all the hottest girls!"

Meanwhile they're like, "Damn these women! They're so promiscuous and screwing all the hottest guys! How dare they!?!?!?"

And then they're like, "I want to find a way to over-inflate my value in the eyes of women, so that I can get more women!"

And then they're like, "Hoe-flation! How dare these women over-inflate their value in the eyes of men!"

It's projection 101. They're really just mad at themselves for being shallow and blocking themselves from real connection. 

Edited June 10 by Emerald

[Emerald]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

They are the betas in question -- settled for.

A lot of people have quite low standards and will settle for anything they can get.

Walmart is beta-ville

This just reflects your own romantic immaturity and lack of real relationship experience.

And it's sad that you see things in such a transactional disconnected way, where everyone is just settling for their partner instead of actually preferring their partner.

The male loneliness epidemic strikes again, I fear.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

You can say c'est la vie Leo, but you probably wouldn't be thinking this way if social media, the internet & online dating weren't a thing. 

Comparison is the thief of joy.

Is your truth hinging on these things being present in society?

If societies frame is removed, is the game the same?

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

If societies frame is removed, is the game the same?

Fucking. Fucking never changes.

It's always been about maximizing value. Deny it all you want but survival runs you through and through.

[Emerald]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Fucking. Fucking never changes.

It's always been about maximizing value. Deny it all you want but survival runs you through and through.

Consider that you have some issues with disconnection and avoidance... and that these rationalizations are just a way for you to increase your cynicism about human relationships and push other people away.

You think you're a truth teller. But these are just anti-social protection strategies to keep yourself from feeling vulnerable parading themselves as "harsh truths that most people aren't willing to face. But I am so different from others that I am willing to face them."

Edited June 10 by Emerald

[LordFall]

Plenty of people get in relationships without being top tier alpha males, doesn't mean those relationships are phenomenal or healthy. Most relationships I see are dysfunctional. 

[LordFall]

On 6/8/2025 at 11:27 AM, Emerald said:

I wish we could test it out because you would definitely be surprised at what women REALLY respond to.

There is endless footage of cold approach on youtube

 

[aurum]

Everyone living creature is maximizing its reproductive success within whatever constraints it has.

Leo is correct about this.

[Leo Gura]

21 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Consider that you have some issues with disconnection and avoidance... and that these rationalizations are just a way for you to increase your cynicism about human relationships and push other people away.

You think you're a truth teller. But these are just anti-social protection strategies to keep yourself from feeling vulnerable parading themselves as "harsh truths that most people aren't willing to face. But I am so different from others that I am willing to face them."

I know exactly how girls respond to attractive men. My feelings about it are irrelevant.

I encourage all men to go out and socialize past their comfort zone and learn from direct experience, not ideology. See for yourselves how girls behave out in the streets.

And build genuine relationships. Learn from that too.

If anything is true you will see it in the streets and in the bedrooms.

Edited June 10 by Leo Gura

[yetineti]

@Leo Gura

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I know exactly how girls respond to attractive men. My feelings about it are irrelevant.

Okay, then share your feelings.

[Leo Gura]

Just now, yetineti said:

@Leo Gura

Okay, then share your feelings.

Irrelevant. Go socialize.