If Solipsism is true...

[Vercingetorix]

How marvelous it is of God to create all of this complex world, all of the unique people, all the beauty, the infinite complexity, all the magic of the world - just for me. It's truly is the ultimate RPG.

[ChrisZoZo]

Yes just for you so you can explore infinite realms and possibilities to your desire for eternity. But of course not just for you but for every possible being that can ever possibly exist any manner.

[Vercingetorix]

@ChrisZoZo Cool!

[Carl-Richard]

Imagine thinking you have all this complexity but it's only for you.

[Grateful Dead]

The world is ass, once you know the reality. Like what about the people who live miserable lives? Imagine being born in the Middle East and sold as a child into sex slavery. Do you think these people enjoy their time here? God has nothing to do with this seemingly complex mess. 

[Hojo]

@Grateful Dead It only happens one time. There is only one shitty life to endure. Lumping many single lives as if it happens to the same person is where all this immense suffering comes from. The person goes back to God and its all ok.

Edited Friday at 03:35 PM by Hojo

[Sugarcoat]

I promise I’m conscious 😂😂stop this silly nonsense

Solipsism is lowkey dangerous. Like imagine a murderer in court being like “yea so reality is solipsistic so my victim isn’t conscious and didn’t suffer so it’s ok” 

Edited Friday at 05:21 PM by Sugarcoat

[Oppositionless]

4 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I promise I’m conscious 😂😂stop this silly nonsense

Solipsism is lowkey dangerous. Like imagine a murderer in court being like “yea so reality is solipsistic so my victim isn’t conscious and didn’t suffer so it’s ok” 

People taking epistemic solipsism to create metaphysical solipsism . To me epistemic solipsism just shows how important faith is. Faith affirms others are real.

7 hours ago, Grateful Dead said:

The world is ass, once you know the reality. Like what about the people who live miserable lives? Imagine being born in the Middle East and sold as a child into sex slavery. Do you think these people enjoy their time here? God has nothing to do with this seemingly complex mess. 

God is the one suffering, so I guess that makes God the ultimate masochist .

[Breakingthewall]

13 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

How marvelous it is of God to create all of this complex world, all of the unique people, all the beauty, the infinite complexity, all the magic of the world - just for me. It's truly is the ultimate RPG.

Then there are two, god and you . If you aren't concious about creating this reality, maybe you aren't also concious about more other things, maybe infinite things 

Edited Friday at 11:32 PM by Breakingthewall

[Vercingetorix]

 

17 hours ago, Grateful Dead said:

17 hours ago, Grateful Dead said:

The world is ass, once you know the reality. Like what about the people who live miserable lives? Imagine being born in the Middle East and sold as a child into sex slavery. Do you think these people enjoy their time here? God has nothing to do with this seemingly complex mess. 

Under the assumption that Solipsism is true, life exists only for me, so it solves this problem.

But let's assume it's not the case - I agree there is a lot of suffering, although I believe it's possible to find joy in almost any circumstance, like Victor Frank, who managed to find it in a concentration camp. 

 

 

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I promise I’m conscious 😂😂stop this silly nonsense

Solipsism is lowkey dangerous. Like imagine a murderer in court being like “yea so reality is solipsistic so my victim isn’t conscious and didn’t suffer so it’s ok” 

I don't know if Solipsism is true, although I did have a solipsistic awakening experience. I think it's good to be open to all possibilities, so I entertain and try to come to peace with this possibility.

I agree it could be dangerous, but I think we are after the truth, regardless of the consequences.

 

 

[Majed]

@Vercingetorix This is so naive, the world could be heaven if you're lucky, but it also could be a hell hole if you're not. "Awwww this world is so beautiful" is so disrespectful towards people who are living in hell. 

[Grateful Dead]

2 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

I believe it's possible to find joy in almost any circumstance, like Victor Frank, who managed to find it in a concentration camp

If I remember correctly, Frankl did not find joy there, but rather meaning, compassion and inner freedom.

@Hojo @Oppositionless

Lol, I guess whatever you have to tell yourselves to enjoy a comfy live in ignorance of what’s actually happening here.

 

[zurew]

21 hours ago, Grateful Dead said:

God has nothing to do with this seemingly complex mess. 

Are you a Christian?

If so, do you have a good response to the problem of evil?

Edited Saturday at 12:44 PM by zurew

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, Majed said:

"Awwww this world is so beautiful" is so disrespectful towards people who are living in hell. 

What is the difference between this and the people who are actually living in heaven. Don't you see the bias here. 

[Sugarcoat]

17 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

People taking epistemic solipsism to create metaphysical solipsism . To me epistemic solipsism just shows how important faith is. Faith affirms others are real.

 

I don’t know the difference 

[Sugarcoat]

6 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

 

 

I don't know if Solipsism is true, although I did have a solipsistic awakening experience. I think it's good to be open to all possibilities, so I entertain and try to come to peace with this possibility.

I agree it could be dangerous, but I think we are after the truth, regardless of the consequences.

 

 

How was your solipsistic awakening?

[Someone here]

OK so the 100000000000000000000th Solipsism thread on this forum 

you guys and girls are ignorant sorry to say . You will never flesh this bitch called Solipsism out with logic and thought experiments.  Leo himself said go trip a 100 times on 5 meo and then you will realize its only you masturbating . And even then he deleted the Solipsism episode because "people 💩" cannot handle it lol.

Edited Saturday at 05:05 PM by Someone here

[Someone here]

I mean let's fucking assume Solipsism is true ..what does that mean ? It means life works like a dream. In a dream you are the only real one and the entire world is imagined for you by you..except that you don't know it unless you become lucid or wake up. So bring this back to your so called real world .if Solipsism is true in the real world then you (actually me..Someone_here) are the only real one and everyone else is being imagined by me . But again I don't realize it . To realize it I either have to wake up from life which just means physical death to quit dancing around it . Or..I have to go balls into the steel with some toad juice extract or some shit ..and if I did I will be awake in the dream but do you realize how radical this is ? But this will end the dream as well. What happens when you become luicd in night dreams ? You get too excited but then you wake up immediately. So the point is that you can't be FULLY conscious of Solipsism being true and stay "alive ". This makes all solipsists full of shit even if Solipsism is true .

[Vercingetorix]

10 hours ago, Majed said:

@Vercingetorix This is so naive, the world could be heaven if you're lucky, but it also could be a hell hole if you're not. "Awwww this world is so beautiful" is so disrespectful towards people who are living in hell. 

That's why I condition it to "if (metaphysical) Solipsism is true" - which means that only my experience is real.

 

 

8 hours ago, Grateful Dead said:

If I remember correctly, Frankl did not find joy there, but rather meaning, compassion and inner freedom.

@Hojo @Oppositionless

Lol, I guess whatever you have to tell yourselves to enjoy a comfy live in ignorance of what’s actually happening here.

 

Yeah, I think it's more accurate than Joy.

 

 

4 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I don’t know the difference 

Epistemic = related to knowledge - so it would be "I know only that I am real, I don't know if others are real or not - maybe they are, maybe not.
Metaphysical = related to what exists - so it would be "Only I exist, others do not".


 

 

4 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

How was your solipsistic awakening?

It was quite shocking and felt impossible. I was conscious of how my mind created everything - the past, other people, the world - how everything exists just in my mind.

[Vercingetorix]

@Someone here True but you can have an ego death, be conscious of Solipsism, then fall back asleep to the dream, and still remember what you experienced.