Martin Ball says he's not solipsistic

[Eskilon]

9 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

It becomes useless. Why not only say “there’s only everything, there only oneness”. 

There's multiple ways of saying that the absolute is, if you are the only thing that exist, you are completly alone. Therefore solipsism.

 

9 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

To say the higher and lower self is not really separated, is another way of saying there’s no separation, meaning the lower self doesn’t actually exist. 

If the lower self doesn't exist, so does the higher self. Everything must exist.

 

9 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Maybe ego is just an appearance. Like how a stone is a form. So it’s all absolute yes.

If it's all absolute, it's all you, this reply is you lol. Solipsism is inevitable. The ego doesn't like to hear it.

Edited May 26 by Eskilon

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Eskilon said:

There's multiple ways of saying that the absolute is, if you are the only thing that exist, you are completly alone. Therefore solipsism.

 

I see

1 minute ago, Eskilon said:

 

If the lower self doesn't exist, so does the higher self. Everything must exist.

 

 

Maybe it exists apparently but not really

2 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

 

If it's all absolute, it's all you, this reply is you lol. Solipisism is inevitable. The ego doesn't like to hear it.

I understand . It’s one way of defining solipsism . 

[Eskilon]

@Sugarcoat it's such a mindfuck of a view. But it makes perfect sense, its all good.

You cannot ever escape being, you are always inside yourself. 

Edited May 26 by Eskilon

[Loveeee]

2 hours ago, Bluevinn said:

There's no way you can know the answer to it.

Right?

There are many ways, like where would other minds be ? 

[Salvijus]

11 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

If it's all absolute, it's all you, this reply is you lol. Solipsism is inevitable. The ego doesn't like to hear it.

That's called nonduality, not solipsism. Solipsism term implies oneness but denies the existence of sentient sovergn multiple individuals. Technically this term is only half true. The part about oneness is true, the second half is false. 

Edited May 26 by Salvijus

[Yeah Yeah]

@Loveeee

2 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

There are many ways, like where would other minds be ? 

Okay so how might one of those ways enlighten me that I am the only one and Leo or any other reply is literally my own dream material which ultimately dismisses your own independent dreamer experience which should be insulting to any conscious being 

Edited May 26 by Yeah Yeah

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

There are many ways, like where would other minds be ? 

Are there many bodies? Or one body? 

[Breakingthewall]

Solipsism is impossible because you are not alone, since the infinity is not you, it's everything. "Alone" is just a relative arising, same than "others", or anything else. 

[Eskilon]

6 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Solipsism term implies oneness but denies the existence of sentient sovergn multiple individuals

Only the most basic and futile definition. God could subdivide itself infinitely, and grant senscience to a part of itself. But at the rock bottom it is you, this subdivision of consciousness is a play that YOU are doing. 

I think people should really contemplate Infinity of gods video lol. And the implications of what an Indra's net mean.

Edited May 26 by Eskilon

[Loveeee]

32 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

People with multiple personality disorder report seeing their multiple personalities as characters in dreams, and when awake, the multiple personalities report experiencing events in that dream from their own perspective. So it's definitely plausible.

What about people in your daydreams, are they conscious too 

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Only the most basic and futile definition. God could subdivide itself infinitely, and grant senscience to a part of itself. But at the rock bottom it is you, this subdivision of consciousness is a play that YOU are doing. 

I think people should really contemplate Infinity of gods video lol.

I agree with you but the reality in which God subdivides itself into many parts and experiences creation through many entities as a concious sentient being is no longer the definition of solipsism. That's why this term solipsism is such bs. 

Edited May 26 by Salvijus

[Breakingthewall]

And experience is not absolute, it's relative, it's something in relationship with anything else. It's the same if it's and image, it's "anything else". The self that perceive is created by the relationship with something with something else. Without something else it's not experience, it's stillness, and stillness is nothing, it doesn't happen. Then, the others are others. Essentially could be the same, but there is a barrier that creates the self, it's real, like everything else. Real means that it is. 

[Loveeee]

6 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Are there many bodies? Or one body? 

Zero 

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

Zero 

The mind is both one and individuated at the same time. 

[Salvijus]

13 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

What about people in your daydreams, are they conscious too 

You're interacting with thought forms in a dream world. Some of those thought forms are generated by you. Some of those thought forms are generated by other entities. If someone is thinking strongly about you, you may get a dream about them and even know the theme of what they are projecting towards you etc. 

Edited May 26 by Salvijus

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Loveeee said:

What about people in your daydreams, are they conscious too 

Why not?

Let's say you were to daydream about a stranger, and then you started daydreaming the perspective of that stranger. If that's possible, is it then so inconceivable that when you daydream a stranger, the stranger is also daydreaming?

[Yeah Yeah]

Can someone clarify exactly what Leo means by solipsism idk what other people believe - like me as this dreamer dreaming my life I am the only one and other people are figments of my imagination on the fly, i'm sure this is how Leo puts it in the YouTube videos ... By his definition and is that what you all are playing at or ?

Edited May 26 by Yeah Yeah

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Yeah Yeah said:

Can someone clarify exactly what Leo means by solipsism idk what other people believe like as this dreamer dreaming my life I am the only one and other people are figments of my imagination on the fly in sure is how he puts it in the YouTube videos ... By his definition and is that what you all are playing at or ?

I’m wondering the same

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

Nobody walked into a bar….

- Taoist saying 

Hahaha EVERYONE WALKED INTO A BAR

[Loveeee]

@Yeah Yeah @Sugarcoat @Salvijus @Carl-Richard @Breakingthewall

 

What you're conscious of right now is all there is or was or will be