Martin Ball says he's not solipsistic

[TruthFreedom]

@Salvijus yeah natasha would get it.

😝😝😝

[Thought Art]

1 minute ago, TruthFreedom said:

@Thought Art

How does one remove an "@user" icon from a reply.

Because this reply was not intended to be at you, but I couldn't work out how to delete the "@user" icon

 

Click edit and delete it like you would any letter. 

[Salvijus]

1 minute ago, Thought Art said:

@Salvijus Yeah but that’s a finite definition of love or a type of love. 

If there are infinite pieces, then it's an infinite love. 

[TruthFreedom]

Oh it worked this time 😐

[Natasha Tori Maru]

'type of love'🤦

 

[Thought Art]

@Natasha Tori Maru You disagree that there could be types, or qualities of love?

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Natasha Tori Maru You disagree that there could be types, or qualities of love?

There is only one type of love called inclusion. If you're partially inclusive, it's called human love. If you're all inclusive, it's called God's infinite love. But it's the same love. The same act of inclusion. 

Edited May 25 by Salvijus

[Salvijus]

Egoic love is the only thing that exists. It's just that you can shift your ego identity to be everything. Then it becomes infinite Self love. But it's the same love. 

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Loveeee said:

It's a goddam dream why would "people" be conscious 

Beautiful religion. I will name it psychosis.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Thought Art I agree with Salvijus' outline above.

I know Leo has his own way of phrasing love, but I think some of the confusion lies in when absolute or relative is used.

But to me, it is the same force. Cohesion, communion, inclusion.

Binder of reality, force of creation.

[Harikrishnan]

Sometimes Solipsism naturally comes, years before leo spoked about it, I had trips where I knew, I was imagining every one. Then Leo spoke and I got much clarity on what it was. Even hearing Leo last episode proof 1 was pointing towards it for me. 
 

[Carl-Richard]

Solipsism is Maya.

[Thought Art]

@Carl-Richard Explain

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Love cannot exist without another. This is why God's decree is 'Lets have an experience!'

In a truly solipsistic world, if there are no others, if everything, everyone, is just a projection of the mind? Well then love becomes a game of 'catch, your playing with yourself'. Imagining there is someone on the other end.

Love depends on 'otherness'. So in a truly solipsistic world, you're incapable of experiencing genuine love. You end up dancing in this emotional cosplay. Hollow.

Behind this, we are all One. A collective consciousness individuated, different, but in communion. So every other part is just as real as the next. The 'you' you think is alone, is a fragment of the whole learning to love all of its parts. All exist in separation to learn this. 

It's not that nobody else exists, it's that we all exist AS ONE.

Beautiful, authentic, individuated expressions of One.

 

Edited May 25 by Natasha Tori Maru

[OBEler]

Can we get back to topic?

It's strange. Why someone like Martin ball who took 5 Meo DMT probably 10.000 times don't get to the level Leo went.

He is not dogmatic. He is open minded. He is creative. And still he didn't went so deep.

[Salvijus]

17 minutes ago, OBEler said:

Can we get back to topic?

It's strange. Why someone like Martin ball who took 5 Meo DMT probably 10.000 times don't get to the level Leo went.

He is not dogmatic. He is open minded. He is creative. And still he didn't went so deep. 

There's no reason to assume Martin's insights are less valid. Quite the opposite, when examined we can see his insights are much more in line with reason. 

Edited May 25 by Salvijus

[Harikrishnan]

2 hours ago, OBEler said:

Can we get back to topic?

It's strange. Why someone like Martin ball who took 5 Meo DMT probably 10.000 times don't get to the level Leo went.

He is not dogmatic. He is open minded. He is creative. And still he didn't went so deep.

Maybe his mind goes to other things, like there are infinite number of things to be conscious of. 

[Bluevinn]

3 hours ago, OBEler said:

Can we get back to topic?

It's strange. Why someone like Martin ball who took 5 Meo DMT probably 10.000 times don't get to the level Leo went.

He is not dogmatic. He is open minded. He is creative. And still he didn't went so deep.

How do you assume that leo went the deeper than him? 

[OBEler]

3 hours ago, Bluevinn said:

How do you assume that leo went the deeper than him? 

Leo was on his first trips already on his level.

However Leo went far beyond. If you just watch what Martin says , what Leo says you can clearly see that Leo went insanely more deeper. 

Martin ball may be deeper in some areas like energy healing etc. but in terms of reality/god/consciousness Leo is way deeper.

Edited May 25 by OBEler

[Carl-Richard]

On 25.5.2025 at 11:08 AM, Thought Art said:

@Carl-Richard Explain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_(religion)

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Maya (/ˈmɑːjə/; Devanagari: माया, IAST: māyā), literally "illusion" or "magic",[1][2][3] has multiple meanings in Indian philosophies depending on the context. In later Vedic texts, māyā connotes a "magic show, an illusion where things appear to be present but are not what they seem";[2][4] the principle which shows "attributeless Absolute" as having "attributes".[3] Māyā also connotes that which "is constantly changing and thus is spiritually unreal" (in opposition to an unchanging Absolute, or Brahman), and therefore "conceals the true character of spiritual reality".[5][6]

When you are referring to attributes, things that are changing, or the magic show of form, you are referring to Maya.

 

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In the Advaita Vedanta school of Hindu philosophy, māyā, "appearance",[7] is "the powerful force that creates the cosmic illusion that the phenomenal world is real".[8] In this nondualist school, māyā at the individual level appears as the lack of knowledge (avidyā) of the real Self, Atman-Brahman, mistakenly identifying with the body-mind complex and its entanglements.

When you talk about appearances, e.g. "other people" (mind-body complexes), you are talking about Maya.

 

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In Buddhist philosophy, māyā is one of twenty subsidiary unwholesome mental factors, responsible for deceit or concealment about the illusionary nature of things.[9][10]

When you talk about Maya, you are talking about that which is illusory and obscures Absolute Truth. Solipsism (the way it is most often conceived) relates to that which obscures Absolute Truth.

Edited May 26 by Carl-Richard