Is this the evolution of polyamory? Aubrey Marcus podcast)

[decentralized]

15 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

there's just INFINITY which is CONSCIOUS of itself, not by using "eyes," but by virtue of existing.

But I can only experience @decentralized at this moment. I deeply know that this self is an illusion. Just like anything else.
How do I experience infinity without drugs and without having another psychotic breakdown? 

[RendHeaven]

@decentralized don't want to derail this thread too much so I'll answer in your other thread

[Lyubov]

7 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

This last video - some of the children in the Osho ashram, each had sex with up to a 150 adults before they turned 16. And the children were used for child labour. Beginning to think all those allegations against Nithyananda might be true also.

Disgusting. 

[Leo Gura]

10 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

This last video - some of the children in the Osho ashram, each had sex with up to a 150 adults before they turned 16. And the children were used for child labour. Beginning to think all those allegations against Nithyananda might be true also.

That's why I don't do hippie communes. It's a hive of New Age devilry.

New Agers are not serious about truth. They confuse truth-seeking with positive spiritual feelings and fantasies and human love. It lacks epistemic rigor which then turns into evil.

When humans get their dirty hands on spirituality in a collective, they always corrupt it. Which is why I don't do collectives.

I could have gone the tantric massage rout but truth is more important. Keep your eye on the ball and don't get distracted by human noise. If you are serious about truth you shouldn't have time for group sex. Obviously group sex is a trap in this work.

Edited May 31 by Leo Gura

[aurum]

4 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

No, that's exactly right. You/I can't handle the Terror and Majesty of our Infinite Insanity and Aloneness. It's a skull-splitting Consciousness and Love, like an all-consuming lava that shreds and drowns E V E R Y T H I N G indiscriminately into the Abyss. We are too much for Ourselves. 

Out of Mercy and Love for our inability to Love that we are Love; we have constructed this plane of solidity and sanity (for an audience of One) as a brief shelter, where we learn Love in smaller, manageable doses - that one day I may gaze upon myself without recoiling.

You are talking to yourself.

You got that wisdom rizz 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Requesting you leave solipsism out of this area. 

Damn, this solipsism shitfight is bleeding into multiple threads across the forums!

[aurum]

28 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

multiple threads

Solipsists: only one thread! 

[Leo Gura]

Nolipsists: leave solipsism out of this area, and all areas. Don't spoil my dream 

Edited May 31 by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Haha fuck it 

Just collapse all the threads and forums into one singularity

Just one consciousness jabbering to itself

[Xonas Pitfall]

5 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Haha fuck it 

Just collapse all the threads and forums into one singularity

Just one consciousness jabbering to itself

Amen!

[BlessedLion]

19 hours ago, decentralized said:

But maybe they do, which makes me have infinite number of eyes but can experience only one at a time.

That’s correct

 

Thinking that others aren’t having an experience is quite psychotic and narcissistic in my opinion. Notice how only Psyhedelic users present this option. The TRUE mystics never say any nonsense like this. 
 

Ive never been more sure of the fact that psychedelics do not show truth. I don’t fully understand them but I know they don’t give you truth 

[BlessedLion]

On 5/30/2025 at 7:45 PM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I actually loved this breakdown of the podcast - although it might be controversial regarding masculine/feminine roles. I actually align with it regarding letting the masculine / feminine partners sink into their respective roles. Would enjoy others thoughts:

 

I also found this really insightful. My only hold back was their bias around (them being married men) that monogamy is THE way and anything else is immasculine and being married is “the natural way” 

 

It was kind of annoying, they seem closed minded and judgemental of anything outside of monogamy. 

[BlessedLion]

On 5/30/2025 at 7:40 PM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

You can lay in another's arms, breathing in unison, as one, in meditation. Pneuma. It will induce such spiritual ecstasy so as to shake the foundations of your very being. Better than any orgasm. Making love while embodying that state makes normal lovemaking a joke in comparison, it feels like a mechanical, soulless process.

100%. It’s such a gift to experience this directly 

[BlessedLion]

19 hours ago, decentralized said:

How do I experience infinity without drugs and without having another psychotic breakdown? 

You are infinity. Stop looking outside yourself (YouTube gurus, drugs, techniques) 

 

Sit alone in silence for 10 days with no distraction and contemplate the question “Who Am I?”

 

Get offline. This is no place for serious spiritual work. 

[BlessedLion]

11 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

 

Requesting you leave solipsism out of this area. 

 

 

Solipsism is psychosis 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

25 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

I also found this really insightful. My only hold back was their bias around (them being married men) that monogamy is THE way and anything else is immasculine and being married is “the natural way” 

 

It was kind of annoying, they seem closed minded and judgemental of anything outside of monogamy. 

Yes, I felt they could have touched on the subject and left it at that. 

They all felt rather compelled to insert their personal anecdotes - which is okay. But it did turn into an echo chamber.

More balance in perspectives needed for sure!

[Basman]

How people form relationships is reflective of a societies survival needs. Monogamy came to culturally when inheritance became a thing. In our modern society there is less strict need for monogamy which I think just means more casual situationships/boyfriend-girlfriend relationships rather than direct marriage or deliberate polyamory. 

Edited June 1 by Basman

[Emerald]

7 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

I also found this really insightful. My only hold back was their bias around (them being married men) that monogamy is THE way and anything else is immasculine and being married is “the natural way” 

It was kind of annoying, they seem closed minded and judgemental of anything outside of monogamy. 

Same here. And they also said something that pseudoscience along those lines.

They said that Aubrey is doing this because of some trauma that caused him not to produce enough testosterone at a formative age, and that that has caused him to have developed a Feminine brain that causes him to be overly romantic and emotionally guided.

I agree that Aubrey is operating in archetypally Shadow Feminine ways in this dynamic, which can happen when someone psychologically polarizes themselves into a polarly Masculine identity.

And it seems like Aubrey fits the bill because his identity expression is very polarly Masculine.

If someone pushes away the Feminine, the Shadow Feminine will creep in unconsciously through the lens of the Masculine identity wherever the Shadow Feminine can be intellectually reframed and interpreted as Masculine.

Like, Aubrey probably conceptualizes this as an expression of his Masculine virility. But the MO is more of a Shadow Feminine expression of putting too much meaning to the emotions and towards what feels good.

(And this dynamic isn't just with Masculinity and Femininity. With any polarization of identity, the opposite unwanted quality sneaks through the identity crafted around the opposing polarity.)

But with all this being said, I'm sure that it doesn't relate to some disturbance in his physiology or testosterone levels.

I don't like it when people try to "biologize" something that's psychological.

[Emerald]

On 5/31/2025 at 9:23 AM, decentralized said:

But I can only experience @decentralized at this moment. I deeply know that this self is an illusion. Just like anything else.
How do I experience infinity without drugs and without having another psychotic breakdown? 

If you've had psychotic breakdowns in the past, that indicates a difficulty grounding in the consensus reality... which is necessary for living a happy, healthy, and fulfilling life.

And I don't recommend using any psychedelics for your medicine journeys given your breakdown in the past, as that can ungrounded you further and aggravate those issues.

And beyond that, there could be something that's purely physiological that could be happening as some people don't do with the medicines.

Your challenge will be more about grounding into your human form rather than trying to transcend the 3-d world. 

If you want to do a medicine journey, you would likely benefit from a grounding medicine like Hapé... which is a ceremonial tobacco.

It will bring you more into the physical and in touch with your body, which is important if you tend to drift away from your humanity and your body.

Think about it like your spiritual practice is a tree, and you've been over-focusing on growing your branches (which represents higher spiritual understandings and insights) without growing your roots (which represents your Earthly human life).

And if a tree's branches grow without the roots being deep enough to support that growth, the tree will uproot.

And that uprooting can be experienced as depersonalization, derealization, psychosis, loss of meaning, and other negative symptoms related to ungroundedness.

So, for your own safety and well-being, I don't recommend psychedelic entheogens. Instead, you might opt to work with more grounding plant teachers... like Hapé.

Edited June 1 by Emerald

[decentralized]

@Emerald it’s been almost 2 years since I touched any psychedelic and I only smoke tobacco now though I still need some grounding work to do. I have random mudras occurring on my hands all the time, I let them flow while I am laying down for sleep. I don’t do sitting meditation because I am afraid of my thoughts. Tomorrow I will talk to my neurologist about those mudras.