If science is a story we project to reality, why does it work in life?

[emvipi]

science says "if you boil a water to 100 degree it will vaporize". if science is a story we project into reality why when i boil a water to 100 degree it vaporizes, just like science said

[Yimpa]

Pour water into the pot. Do you need a story to do that?

Notice how you can do that, yet you cannot maintain that image.

Experience is shapeshifting.

Edited 17 hours ago by Yimpa

[emvipi]

@Yimpa can you elaborate?

[Yimpa]

@emvipi No, that is not my specialty. I failed science class and ended up as a guinea pig.

Edited 16 hours ago by Yimpa

[theleelajoker]

1 hour ago, emvipi said:

science says "if you boil a water to 100 degree it will vaporize". if science is a story we project into reality why when i boil a water to 100 degree it vaporizes, just like science said

I think it's a good question. 

• My take is that there are some "rules" to this reality that are - for humans - more or less impossible to break/bend. We need oxygen to be alive, gravity eg.
• Some can be bend more easily. Placebo effect for instance.
• Other mechanism are up to our imagination. How we see others, relationships, ourself comes to mind

[Someone here]

3 hours ago, emvipi said:

science says "if you boil a water to 100 degree it will vaporize". if science is a story we project into reality why when i boil a water to 100 degree it vaporizes, just like science said

Science can work also in a dream . You might dream that the water boils at 75 degrees ..but does that mean this is a universal truth ? Obviously not because this doesn't apply to the waking state .

Edited 13 hours ago by Someone here

[Carl-Richard]

3 hours ago, emvipi said:

if science is a story we project into reality

Who said that? And please, elaborate.

Edited 13 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, emvipi said:

science says "if you boil a water to 100 degree it will vaporize". if science is a story we project into reality why when i boil a water to 100 degree it vaporizes, just like science said

Science is a story that somewhat tracks patterns within God's dream. Which is why it "works". You can track rules by which a video game works and thereby predict the game to some extent.

But do not mistake those models for what's really going on at a metaphysical level.

Edited 9 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Hojo]

Yes its basically a description not fact as when science goes small enough they see there is too much the weight would collapse space into a black hole so the base element of everything is the same black hole.

If God was a story book Science is copying the words into a secret made up language and then claiming they are writing the book and can predict future and past before even completing the book. They say that there are facts without knowing that the next page in the book says all previous pages were made up. They are now beginning to read that page and are denying it and re reading the other pages getting nowhere. Or they are reading the next pages behind the scenes.

Science can describe that interactions happen between things but cant tell you what the thing is why it did it or how it happend, they make these claims that they know but they dont.

Like when pop and mentos happens the reactions might not be electrons of positions just changing and stuff there literally might be a concious being meeting another and they instantly cum. Science can say this and this and this are happening and thats the reaction but thats like saying sex is like a penis going in and out of vagina. There is way more happening there then what science can say there are two infinite beings that have existed forever accumilating desires that result into a moment where they get to release them onto eachother.

Science can tell you to boil water to 100 degrees but they cant tell you what water is what 100 degrees is and why things boil. They look at heat being added and they see water boiling they look at electrons and see them moving and conclude that heat makes things move faster. It works but its not telling you why anything is happening or what anything is. People are getting tricked into believing that the story of what they are witnessing is why its happening. Why is the water boiling at 100 degrees? Because you wanted to boil water. God works both ways and you dont need to explain any way it just works.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

It attempts to describe systematic material existence & pattern- but remember science can be broken when scaling.

A good example is Newton - Newtonian mechanics explain very well the physical parameters we labor under (science in this frame is 'real life'). But approach the speed of light? Relativity from Einstein takes over. Time is no longer constant and depends on your frame. Linking space & time 'relativity'.

'Absolute' in science can be a matter of frame & perspective - indicating how you think about it is the 'story'.

It works in real life because it is attempting to describe real life.

Science, is therefore, not discovered or 'absolute'.

It is helpful to remember that mathematics is the more true form, that is discovered and a universal language. Science is founded on mathematics, so it is easy to blindly trust science as it is often rooted in mathematics. 

[LastThursday]

Science just keeps the stories that work, and throws away the rest. Even if a story is long established it can throw it away. Science also does deep elaboration, if you go to the top of a mountain the water will boil at 98 degrees. And science is not just a shopping list of facts, it is a web of concepts: the boiling temperature drops with pressure.

[Terell Kirby]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

But do not mistake those models for what's really going on at a metaphysical level.

Construct awareness 5/6

I notice that this allows us to be more open to spotting limitations of models and not turning them into dogma or ideology -

Edited 54 minutes ago by Terell Kirby

[Breakingthewall]

Perhaps science is at a very basic level compared to what it could be, and perhaps in the future it will be able to delve into the structure of reality to a level we can't imagine.

Perhaps it will be possible to penetrate quantum dimensions where reality is only information and unfold universes within particles, things that will make current science like that of the Middle Ages in comparison.