Ruthless Women

[The Renaissance Man]

@BlessedLion It's not like they were together or anything though. Having all those those red flags appear in 30 minutes... it seems like a good reason to dump her actually. And the 30 minute thing is clearly disrespectful and slimy, waiting for him to meet her to tell him.

8 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

These are pretty weak reasons to dump her. You’re placing yourself in too high a pedestal 

Edited Monday at 09:20 PM by The Renaissance Man

[LordFall]

@BlessedLion Disagreed, I would also dump a woman who randomly makes me time to hangout with me for 30 mins here and there instead of being more available.

@SQAAD Also agreed that you're coming at it from a crybaby victim mindset. Why don't you start working out and making some money so you start being more high value? If you're an average man you don't have much value to offer to the average woman, it's just sperm wars and evolutionary psychology. 

[The Renaissance Man]

11 hours ago, SQAAD said:

There are very good reasons why many men end up hating women.

The generalizing is totally unjustified. And this hatred and frustration can be smelled by women, even if not explicit.

Look at the objective facts: this woman in particular behaved in this way. You didn't like it. You're not going to hang out with her anymore. That's it. No generalizations, no unnecessary misogyny. 

Probably you can think about a few signs of the kind of person she was from before you met. That would be a good lesson to better filter for mature women next time. Without adding extra layers of hatred.

[MarkKol]

Bro hates her for having a life

[Princess Arabia]

Jesus. Every post is a woman-hating post. The control they have over you is astounding.

[integral]

You would think by the way you’re describing it that she was the daughter of Genghis Khan, and spent the first 13 years of her life honing her skills at warfare in battle

Edited Monday at 11:42 PM by integral

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@SQAAD until you become aware your beliefs create your reality, you will be stuck in this loop 

This is a consistent recurring pattern showing up. And you are an active participant in its manifestation.

I would suggest you stop pursuing women, and really delve into where meaning for you sits in your life.

Work on yourself.

This is the only thing you can control.

[Applegarden8]

17 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Jesus. Every post is a woman-hating post. The control they have over you is astounding.

I don't think you can underestand or relate to his problem and the problem men historically and now always had in this field of life. We have to accept that it's what it is and then provide a solution as a society. Without mass self-reflection it ain't happening.

Ok, there are angry and woman hating men. What we are going to do about it?

Edited Tuesday at 05:31 PM by Applegarden8

[Princess Arabia]

15 minutes ago, Applegarden8 said:

I don't think you can underestand or relate to his problem and the problem men historically and now always had in this field of life. 

I'm so tired of hearing this gender-related kind of remark suggesting that I can't understand because I'm a woman. What you're failing to see is that it is being directed at a specific gender, my gender so I can, and have the capacity to understand. It goes both ways and I can definitely relate because the hammer that hits the foot is just as related to the foot it hits - without being or taking it personally. 

[Princess Arabia]

33 minutes ago, Applegarden8 said:

Ok, there are angry and woman hating men. What we are going to do about it?

Start with the self. What OP explained was something he took personal. Maybe start to see that no one owes you anything and that people are in our lives impermanently and to not be owned. When we get attached to our experiences and see them as what we want the outcome to be, that's when internal conflict arises. Do something about the way we see the things that passes through our lives. Don't get attached especially to strange people we've met for only a short period of time. The man speaks about a stranger like that he barely knows, not his wife or gf and has expectations so soon. Thatls the issue. He was in it for himself and couldn't relish the moment for what it was. That's the problem. Not ruthless women, but ruthless expectations.

Edited Tuesday at 05:57 PM by Princess Arabia

[LordFall]

@Applegarden8 There are collective and individual solutions, the individual ones are simplest and the ones you should focus on as an individual as the collective is not really setup to care for us as a whole. 
 

Complaining that women don’t value men and it’s so hard to find one that gives you authentic desire is an insane problem to try solve collectively. Empower yourself and go from there. 
 

I had a really hard time dating as a teenager and early 20s but now in my late 20s it’s much easier since I’ve now done 10+ years of self improvement. 

[Applegarden8]

9 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm so tired of hearing this gender-related kind of remark suggesting that I can't understand because I'm a woman. What you're failing to see is that it is being directed at a specific gender, my gender so I can, and have the capacity to understand. It goes both ways and I can definitely relate because the hammer that hits the foot is just as related to the foot it hits - without being or taking it personally. 

I didn't say you can't underestand and because you are a woman. I am saying you don't want to, then there would be no criticism. We have no solution for that as a society. Same goes for other issues.

[Applegarden8]

9 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Start with the self. What OP explained was something he took personal. Maybe start to see that no one owes you anything and that people are in our lives impermanently and to not be owned. When we get attached to our experiences and see them as what we want the outcome to be, that's when internal conflict arises. Do something about the way we see the things that passes through our lives. Don't get attached especially to strange people we've met for only a short period of time. The man speaks about a stranger like that he barely knows, not his wife or gf and has expectations so soon. Thatls the issue. He was in it for himself and couldn't relish the moment for what it was. That's the problem. Not ruthless women, but ruthless expectations.

So we are doing nothing about it, that's OK. Just admit it.

[Princess Arabia]

7 hours ago, Applegarden8 said:

So we are doing nothing about it, that's OK. Just admit it.

When you've come to the realization that you are the world, you'll understand what I'm saying. Until then, try changing the outside world and see how it goes for you. Until you change nothing changes. Ever notice how your perception of a thing or circumstance can change without the thing or circumstance changing. It's because you have changed. Food for thought.

Edited Wednesday at 11:34 AM by Princess Arabia

[Leo Gura]

On 4/28/2025 at 3:23 AM, SQAAD said:

When i meet her, she tells me that in like 30 minutes, she has to go for a dance class (in other words: you are the least important option for me, so i won't give you the time of the day).

This was a big turn off and a waste of time. She will probably contact me again 2-3 weeks from now (if she doesn't find Chad or Bryce or some other guy who will be the "perfect" one).

This time, i won't ever see this woman again. This just shows me how ruthless and not caring some women can be.

There are very good reasons why many men end up hating women. Very good reasons..

Too much neediness on your part. This problem is solved by talking to more women so that you aren't invested too quickly in any one.

Women, unlike men, take a longer time to get invested in you. Initially women are not invested in you so you have to match their investment level. Do not make yourself too available for them.

[Mannyb]

Pride and Prejudice 

[Applegarden8]

5 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

When you've come to the realization that you are the world, you'll understand what I'm saying. Until then, try changing the outside world and see how it goes for you. Until you change nothing changes. Ever notice how your perception of a thing or circumstance can change without the thing or circumstance changing. It's because you have changed. Food for thought.

Again, can't we just admit that we will not do anything about the woman hating men. It's OK. No need to give me epistemic nuances or try to change something. Just say, I will not do anything about it, but will complain. I would just suggest to stop complaining then also, because it's a waste of time, nobody is listening. Maybe it helps to vent, but I digress. I will become the world when I die. Until then, it's impractical to function like that when I am not meditating or smth. It's like when @Nahm will reply to every problem we are one, just relax bro, lots of love.

Yes the perception can change without the circumstance changing, but then why you still have an issue with woman hating men? I don't get that. If you did go the full circle, wouldn't you be left with nothing? What will be influenced or changed for the better of you write it here? The OP who is unwilling to change his position?

Edited Wednesday at 04:44 PM by Applegarden8

[Flint]

On 28/4/2025 at 8:02 PM, SQAAD said:

@Applegarden8

No. It's not the same. I tend to treat people in a fair way. I would never leave earlier on a date just because i don't like the other person. Where is your love for your fellow human, if you do that kind of petty behavior.. This is what disapointed me the most.

There is no fair in survival. You just need to understand that in a dating situation how well you get treated depends on how attractive you are. And I'd wager you are treating women as unfairly as they are treating you - are you giving a chance to the girls you consider ugly for instance ? Are you really going to sleep with an "ugly" girl just because of love for your fellow human ?

Most women have to deal with feeling unsafe all the time and all sort of dating shenanigans - they have it much harder than you do and 99% of them remain wonderful members of society and do not harbor any hate nor ill intent towards men despite all the difficult situations they have been in. And yet you're here bitching about one failed date.

Imagine you get beaten up or almost raped by your male uber driver - which could be a good reason to start hating men - and despite it happening, those women survive and process it differently, and do not end up hating men at all. So learn a thing or two from them.

If someone is not into you just move on. Don't be so entitled to think that they should like you or owe you anything.