Leo, have you ever taken a deliriant?

[Malekakisioannis]

And what was your experience with it?

@Leo Gura

[Yimpa]

Never taken external deliriants, but now I’m questioning if I produce similar effects internally. 

[Beans]

4 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Never taken external deliriants, but now I’m questioning if I produce similar effects internally. 

It makes me sad when you are experiencing paranoia like you did today. Please take care of yourself.😿💔

[Leo Gura]

Nope.

[PurpleTree]

 

 

Edited March 12 by PurpleTree

[LifeEnjoyer]

This reminded me of a buddy in high school, would take massive amounts of Benadryl. When I asked him why he just said, "I dunno." He said he had a full conversation with Barack Obama once. So that was kind of cool I guess, only to realize it was just a shadow. Now he says his sense of space is really good, like when we drive together it's almost scary how close he can get to other cars while driving. That's pretty much it

[Something Funny]

On 3/12/2025 at 1:11 AM, Leo Gura said:

Nope.

Because you think they are too dangerous / sketchy or because you don't think there will be much value in it? Or both?

[Leo Gura]

@Something Funny Dangerous.

I would do it if my health was better.

I see value in it, but the cost might be too high.

I don't recommend you do it.

Edited April 9 by Leo Gura

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura i see.

Yeah, they sound sketchy, and not just in terms of being bad for your health but also because you might do something crazy and get into serious trouble that way.

[Yimpa]

On 3/11/2025 at 6:45 PM, Beans said:

It makes me sad when you are experiencing paranoia like you did today. Please take care of yourself.😿💔

I completely forgot what happened. 

[integration journey]

I wonder how a deliriant is different from salvia. Both seems wacky and mind-fuckey. But deliriants feel more sinister. 

[LambdaDelta]

7 hours ago, integration journey said:

I wonder how a deliriant is different from salvia. Both seems wacky and mind-fuckey. But deliriants feel more sinister. 

Deliriants are far more physically dangerous, they mess with the cholinergic system, the most fundamental in the body. Hence if you're going to try them, don't ever do that more than once or twice. The future health consequences can be very serious. Salvia is physically safe, but mind-wise it's the exact opposite. Deliriants are still within the realm of human insanity, you talk to people who aren't there, maybe your food turns to rotten human flesh, voices telling you to kill yourself... Salvia can get inconceivably more insane, with you turning into inanimate objects, living whole lifetimes, getting stretched and torn apart like a rubber sheet, etc. It acts on the kappa-opioid receptors, which are very understudied currently. 

[LostSoul]

@LambdaDelta I did salvia when I was 17 in a very irresponsible way. With friends and several times on a 6 month period, like one per month. To this day I don't know how much fucked me up, if it was that usage of salvia or other factors.

[5-D - L O V E]

On 10/04/2025 at 1:30 AM, LambdaDelta said:

Salvia can get inconceivably more insane, with you turning into inanimate objects, living whole lifetimes, getting stretched and torn apart like a rubber sheet, etc. It acts on the kappa-opioid receptors, which are very understudied currently. 

I've read some trip reports where people mention that, when you say living whole lifetimes, do you mean that literally ? as in being awake through every minute of it ? going to sleep and waking up in said reality day after day ... until the trip ends ?? that just sounds insane to me

[LambdaDelta]

9 hours ago, 5-D - L O V E said:

I've read some trip reports where people mention that, when you say living whole lifetimes, do you mean that literally ? as in being awake through every minute of it ? going to sleep and waking up in said reality day after day ... until the trip ends ?? that just sounds insane to me

Well it is insane, but that's still a fairly low order of insanity in the grand scheme of Consciousness. Some mean it literally, others might exaggerate, we can't say for sure. I haven't experienced it on Salvia, first have to isolate the Salvinorin A, the raw product is awful; but I have lived multiple decades within a dream once, conscious through it all. The reason it's possible to come back from that fine is, like I said elsewhere, Consciousness has a bottomless capacity for self-obfuscation, so you'll probably simply forget the majority of the events, just have a general memory that they did take place. Same as with some childhood traumas or forgetting that you're God. Though there's also a risk it could become permanent, no longer being able to tell dream from reality (ironic since the two are in fact indistinct, but you get the meaning), like what happened to the guy's wife in Inception. Psychs are serious business. 

[integration journey]

I would never dare take Salvia. I have too much respect for it. 
I have respect for all the plant medicines but I feel like if I take Salvia, it will fuck me up. 
Even 5-MEO-DMT feels more straightforward and clear than salvia which I have tried. 

[Leo Gura]

Salvia is not a deliriant.

[integration journey]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Salvia is not a deliriant.

I know but it seems so different from all the other classic psychedelics. 

[Eskilon]

On 14/04/2025 at 5:55 AM, LambdaDelta said:

but I have lived multiple decades within a dream once, conscious through it all. The reason it's possible to come back from that fine is, like I said elsewhere, Consciousness has a bottomless capacity for self-obfuscation, so you'll probably simply forget the majority of the events, just have a general memory that they did take place

In those decades, in that lifetime, did it have spirituality in it? Did it have clues that you were in fact dreaming? I mean one's life could literally be a trip, and when you die you wake up in a ayahuasca ceremony lol, consciousness can and probably already have dreamed that up.  

Edited April 16 by Eskilon

[LambdaDelta]

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

In those decades, in that lifetime, did it have spirituality in it? Did it have clues that you were in fact dreaming? I mean one's life could literally be a trip, and when you die you wake up in a ayahuasca ceremony lol, consciousness can and probably already have dreamed that up.  

I don't recall any spiritual aspect. It's a bit fuzzy at this point, I can say I spent it all in some barren dimension with little to no food but also no need to eat, dreadfully boring. There may have been some story spun up about how I got there, perhaps through a failed sci-fi experiment, time-travel or some such. Either way after some time you just get used to it and don't question as much anymore. Mysterious things are happening, just as there's obfuscation there's deobfuscation or reconstruction, as each jewel in Indra's Net reflects all the others it's possible to 'rebuild' the whole thing from just one; that's how I imagine I came back from it despite the new reality gradually superseding the prior one. 

What you describe is no doubt possible, it matches with some reports and the vial/tube consciousness dimension I discovered where one wakes up Matrix style after initiating the trip inside, or the switching of avatars, or simultaneous perception of timeframes. There's also been times where I play one of Leo's videos and become conscious of how I recorded it through him for myself, there's even personalized content that's totally not in the 'public' version. In other instances try as you might this consciousness won't open up, you might even think you've hallucinated it, basically gaslighting yourself, until experiencing it enough times to erase all skepticism. It's all very tailored, things are wiped from your memory till just the right instant. Understanding synchronicity is an important part of the mechanics of how God creates, it's the most elegant and beautiful way to interweave reality, but precisely because it's all so tangled up it's supremely confusing to us mortals.