MAGA Perverts & Corruption Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

Opening this up cause we'll be seeing a lot of these corrupt MAGA perverts crawling out of the shadows over the next 4 years and it's good to have a catalog of all them and their crimes in one place.

https://apnews.com/article/matt-gaetz-congress-ethics-report-538cb5387bf95925245bf87fa6b1adcb

Post all examples of MAGA corruption here.

Edited December 23, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

Calling out all of Trump and MAGA's crimes and corruption has no doubt become more crucial than ever before.

However, aren't you concerned that when Trump becomes president again, he and MAGA might retaliate against you and everyone else on here for posting threads like this, given the unprecedented power Trump will have and their very serious threats to suppress freedom of speech and the press all over the country?

Or will we be safe from them as long as we refrain from making any reckless or threatening statements, such as death threats, against them?

Edited December 23, 2024 by Hardkill

[ArcticGong]

Picking fights with friends while trying to get closer to adversaries. 

[trenton]

The MAGA people are taking the personal information of liberals on YouTube and using it to direct death threats at them and their families. I think they are spreading this information as widely as possible, hoping that someone out there is crazy enough to carry out these threats like the guy who took Nancy Pelosi hostage or the people who broke into the capitol chanting "hang Mike Pence."

 

[zazen]

Not sure if this counts as corruption to fit this thread but there’s been a heated debate over H-1B visas the past couple of days - with a divergence of positions amongst the MAGA crowd between the tech and trads, with some with racism thrown into the mix of course.

Parts of MAGA see it as corruption on the part of their biggest mascot Elon Musk, who they view as wanting cheap foreign labor to build his Star Trek wet dream. He justifies that dream as keeping America dominant in a world of rising challenges to its hegemony - but they view it as yet another slap on the face by elite interest.

First Wall Street shafted Main Street. Now the techies who don’t live on any street and just recently aligned with them seem to be repeating the “perceived” abuse. The tech elite float above both Wall Street and Main Street in a detached cloud which seems to have a utopian and almost messianic vision for a better world. But just as they are dislocated, they dislocate natives in favour of global talent they can harvest for their own ambitions.

Under Vivek’s post where he comments on how it’s a cultural problem rather than a IQ one:

Vivek's post: ''The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. A culture that venerates Cory from “Boy Meets World,” or Zach & Slater over Screech in “Saved by the Bell,” or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in “Family Matters,” will not produce the best engineers. (Fact: I know *multiple* sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity…and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates). More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of “Friends.” More math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating, less “chillin.” More extracurriculars, less “hanging out at the mall.”

If you grow up aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve. “Normalcy” doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our asses handed to us by China. This can be our Sputnik moment. We’ve awaken from slumber before & we can do it again. Trump’s election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up. A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy; excellence over mediocrity; nerdiness over conformity; hard work over laziness. That’s the work we have cut out for us, rather than wallowing in victimhood & just wishing (or legislating) alternative hiring practices into existence. I’m confident we can do it.''

 

A interesting comment on the above, from Arnaud Bertrand:

''The irony of Vivek's post is that his wrong analysis of how American culture is broken illustrates in itself how American culture is broken. I mean, how out-of-touch must one be to think people will embrace a vision where childhood must be optimized for corporate success, with less sleepovers, hanging out and fun (what he calls "mediocrity") in favor of shareholder-value-maximizing "excellence"? Especially when addressing Americans who have seen their lives destroyed en-masse by the same corporate priorities that produced this vision of "excellence".

The average American family isn't choosing between math tutoring and sleepovers - they're choosing between paying for basic necessities while both parents work multiple jobs. His examples unwittingly prove the opposite of his point: shows that he describes as corrupting American culture (Friends, Boy Meets World, Family Matters, etc.) celebrate friendship, family, and community values - exactly what the US has lost in their rush to optimize everything for economic output and create an hyperindividualistic and consumerist society. That's probably why they're popular: they reflect a lost world that people aspire to go back to.

He mentions China as the motivating factor here, because apparently the solution to avoid having their "asses handed to us by China" is more capitalism, treating people even more like cogs who must compete in "the global market for technical talent." That doesn't only betray a misunderstanding of what Americans want but also of China. China themselves largely hate the extreme competitiveness of their system: the people hate it and the government hates it, they all want to move away from it (hence the government banning the tutoring industry). And in any case this isn't what made China rise - China rose with a largely uneducated population, as mass university-level education is a very recent phenomenon there.

No, I'm convinced that China, at a very fundamental level, rose so unprecedentedly fast for the very reason that it is one of the very few countries in the world which culture wasn't completely denaturalized by the sort of neoliberal dystopia that Vivek seems to idealize. In China's socialist system the market doesn't trump all, individualism doesn't reign supreme and, at a broader level, they still stay faithful to many of the ancestral values that have sustained their civilization for thousands of years. That's the culture that underpins it all and makes it work, not the fact that Chinese kids do too much homework.

All in all, this is what makes this debate so revealing: Vivek, in trying to diagnose America's problems, has instead unwittingly illustrated them. The belief that every human activity must be justified by its contribution to GDP, that collective bonds are mere distractions from the pursuit of "excellence," and that the solution to the problems created by predatory capitalism is, somehow, more predatory capitalism.''

Edited December 28, 2024 by zazen

[Schizophonia]

3 minutes ago, zazen said:

Not sure if this counts as corruption to fit this thread but there’s been a heated debate over H-1B visas the past couple of days - with a divergence of positions amongst the MAGA crowd between the tech and trads, with some with racism thrown into the mix of course.

Parts of MAGA see it as corruption on the part of their biggest mascot Elon Musk, who they view as wanting cheap foreign labor to build his Star Trek wet dream. He justifies that dream as keeping America dominant in a world of rising challenges to its hegemony - but they view it as yet another slap on the face by elite interest.

First Wall Street shafted Main Street. Now the techies who don’t live on any street and just recently aligned with them seem to be repeating the “perceived” abuse. The tech elite float above both Wall Street and Main Street in a detached cloud which seems to have a utopian and almost messianic vision for a better world. But just as they are dislocated, they dislocate natives in favour of global talent they can harvest for their own visions.

Elon and Vivek are crazy liberals, if i were Trump/the GOP i'd fire them illico presto.

 

[aurum]

Pam Bondi, now Trump's new AG pick. 

 

[aurum]

Charles Kushner, Trump's new pick for ambassador to France and father to Jared Kushner:

Trump pardoned him.

[PurpleTree]

 

[Terell Kirby]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/30/politics/federal-appeals-court-upholds-sexual-abuse-case-against-trump/index.html

[Fluran]

it's excess power and effective coordination from new republican aliance.. whatever elon-palantir-trump and etc team is doing,

It's both scary and positive that they can reform the whole society to be functional and adaptive, while this also allows immense power accumulation and abuse of the power.

I do not think it's healthy to cancel and counteract for everything being done, I do think it is evolutionary, they gained immense political support from people, 

yet it is good to collect power to counteract when necessary, I do not think there is an effective strategy to stop them when really needed, I think nobody can challenge them effectively now

 

no one in the left can counteract.
it has to re-nnovate and develop strategies from scratch, it's the new world.

Edited December 31, 2024 by Fluran

[Terell Kirby]

 

[Terell Kirby]

Example of common unoriginal straw man of progressives/leftists-a defining feature of MAGA perversion of truth and self bias:

Gabbard is appointed head Director of National Intelligence under Trump.

[zazen]

Amazing how Elon can deflect attention away from the visa debate towards dunking on the UK by spamming Twitter/X with the grooming gang scandal. All of a sudden it’s all over X and has everyone talking - he’s made the UK headlines for also calling out Keir Starmer and calling for election. Not that any of it isn’t true or valid either, but it seems to be a cynical use of the issue to deflect from his own issues.

Like a wizard of algo attention. It just comes across like he’s desperately trying to re gain popularity with the core voter base he offended - he even changed his name and profile pic (to Pepe the frog) which he has now changed back - though I’m not sure if connected. The grooming gang scandal and him sharing Tommy Robinsons documentary is a way to show his lost fans he cares about mass immigration and social cohesion to appease some racists.

Dudes just spamming regarding the issue, which no doubt is an issue - but he’s weaponising it for his own gain it seems.

 

The irony of him being a genocide enabling Zionist boot licker flies over his head though.

Then there’s all these attacks occurring being framed as ISIS..

 

Whitney Webbs take:

“Some of the same prominent people who rightly have been pointing out that the FBI and CIA are deeply corrupt (which they obv are) are now saying we should believe those agencies about the motives and identities of those behind the recent attacks and also believe FBI/CIA people that the US is now infiltrated and invested with Al Qaeda operatives poised to bring chaos to the US in 2025. 

Even more odd, some of these people used to rant for hours about how Al Qaeda and ISIS were creations of the US govt, either directly or indirectly. 

Funny how narrative management works. Al Qaeda is definitely a US creation and fear over current and/or future attacks will be used to market a complete techno-tyranny takeover. 

You'll be told that digital ID, digital surveillance money, and Palantir big data pre-crime algos are the only ways to stop the terror attacks and it will be disturbing to see how many fall for the ruse. Don't give into the fear and don't consent - digital ID and many of these technologies will only stick if you voluntarily comply and adopt them.”

Edited January 3 by zazen

[Terell Kirby]

I’m sure we can expect Trump to make a genuine attempt to pardon Jan 6 insurrectionist. Should get interesting:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/05/politics/trump-january-6-capitol-rioters/index.html

Edited January 5 by Terell Kirby

[Terell Kirby]

Looks like Meta/Silicon Valley is going full blown MAGA these days:

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/07/nx-s1-5251151/meta-fact-checking-mark-zuckerberg-trump

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/01/06/ufcs-dana-white-joins-metas-board-weeks-before-trump-takes-office.html

Edited January 7 by Terell Kirby

[LambdaDelta]

On 1/3/2025 at 2:28 PM, zazen said:

he even changed his name and profile pic (to Pepe the frog) which he has now changed back - though I’m not sure if connected

That did not go well 

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/1hqrw08/elon_musk_changes_his_profile_pic_to_a_4chan_pol/

[zazen]

3 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

That did not go well 

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/1hqrw08/elon_musk_changes_his_profile_pic_to_a_4chan_pol/

Wow he got roasted lol. He’s like some right wing fertilizer giving oxygen to every right wing movement he can in the West. He can’t decide whether he’s Thomas Jefferson or Tony Stark.

People on X are even speaking against his new algo changes to promote more “positivity” which probably is cover for whatever suits his narrative. So much for being a free speech absolutist.

The latest chapter in American Empire.

 

Trump wants to re-name the Gulf of Mexico into the Gulf of America. Manifest destiny 2.0. The same people who scream basic biology at trans folks are simultaneously trying to trans an entire gulf into becoming American.

They’ll try convince us that Greenland has always felt American deep inside. That Canada's been questioning its identity and wants to Iive its truth as Americas 51st state. Panama Canal? Ditto. What next? These techno imperialists will claim Mars is a 52nd state when Musk shits on it.

The empire has decided that self-identification is totally valid - as long as it's the empire doing the identifying. 

Edited January 7 by zazen

[Leo Gura]

Rename Greenland to Orangeland.

Anyone who cries free speech really just means: freedom for me to say retarded, delusional, criminal, and selfish things without consequence.

Edited January 7 by Leo Gura

[Twentyfirst]

2 hours ago, zazen said:

Wow he got roasted lol. He’s like some right wing fertilizer giving oxygen to every right wing movement he can in the West. He can’t decide whether he’s Thomas Jefferson or Tony Stark.

People on X are even speaking against his new algo changes to promote more “positivity” which probably is cover for whatever suits his narrative. So much for being a free speech absolutist.

The latest chapter in American Empire.

 

Trump wants to re-name the Gulf of Mexico into the Gulf of America. Manifest destiny 2.0. The same people who scream basic biology at trans folks are simultaneously trying to trans an entire gulf into becoming American.

They’ll try convince us that Greenland has always felt American deep inside. That Canada's been questioning its identity and wants to Iive its truth as Americas 51st state. Panama Canal? Ditto. What next? These techno imperialists will claim Mars is a 52nd state when Musk shits on it.

The empire has decided that self-identification is totally valid - as long as it's the empire doing the identifying. 

America is just as violent and dangerous as Mexico. At least Mexico can blame it on the cartels

America fuels the cartels by buying from them