Leo Gura

Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

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How do they stay sane after seeing children being explicitly targeted ?

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On 11/4/2024 at 8:17 AM, jaylimix said:

Leo are you just making assumption or do you have proof, maybe you should watch your own video "Assumption is the mother of all fuckups"

The reason people like me (who lives in Malaysia and doesn't work for the IDF) defend Israel against people like you is because I cannot in good conscience not defend Israel;

because the whole world is bullying and attacking a single country and people, be it physically in war on all fronts (north, south, east, west);

diplomatically in the UN, UN organizations and other international organizations;

and digitally by people like you on social media (this forum included) and legacy media like Aljazeera, Middle East Eye, Al Quds network, TRT World and many more.

I cannot be silent and not speak up for Israelis and Jews when they are being attacked and hated everywhere, and the hate propaganda machine is working 24/7 non stop on Israel

The more you hate on Israelis and Jews, the stronger I will support them, the more I will give them a pass for their brutality on Gaza

Yes I acknowledge that the war in Gaza is brutal but end of the day it comes down to two options:

Option A - Kill all terrorists but civilians get killed in the process

Option B - Don't kill all terrorists and civilians get to live

And I pick Option A because I can come to terms with civilians getting killed in the process of finishing off the terrorists

And even if it is not about destroying Hamas but about land grab, I still support it

Jordan and Syria tried to attack Israel and they lost their Golan Heights and West Bank respectively by their defeat in war, so Israel has every right to annex it

The same goes for Gaza. I hope Israel annex it, absorb the population as residents. Those who resists must be expelled, incarcerated/killed.

The Jews have every right to form a nation in Palestine, their ancestral homeland

Now there are two Palestine, Palestine the region, and Palestine the country

Google Palestine Independence Year and you get the year 1988, how can a country that declared independence 40 years after Israel be more legit than Israel?

There was not a sovereign Palestine country in the year 1947-1948

British Mandate Palestine was split into two nations - Jordan and Israel

Palestine the country comes later, in the 1960s as a movement and declared independence in the year 1988

You do not have legality to own land if you do not hold land title, under the government department of Land Office, under a sovereign nation

Country first => Land Office => Land title

Palestinians don't have a legal claim to land is my point

As a Jewish it became dangerous to travel abroad. All this hate and rationalization about who is right/wrong, is an excuse for racism. This hate will only make Israelis/Jewish people to strengthen their nationalism because it will be the only solution..

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2 hours ago, Heaven said:

As a Jewish it became dangerous to travel abroad. All this hate and rationalization about who is right/wrong, is an excuse for racism. This hate will only make Israelis/Jewish people to strengthen their nationalism because it will be the only solution..

I agree.

It is because the general opinion is that most Israelis support the massacres in Gaza and they all serve in the IDF (hence potential war criminal).

Only way for Israelis not to be so hated is to start protesting against the government about its atrocities in Gaza.

Otherwise they will continue to be hated and discriminated.

It is collective punishment in a way.

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Another witness of the deliberate and reiterated murdering of Palestinian civilians including women and children by the Israeli terrorist and genocidal state.

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This doesn't seem to be a frontline war. This seems to be 1.4 million people trapped, they can't leave, having bombs dropped at them on a daily basis, and then drones coming on and shooting them.

 

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Norm is a beast. In a good way.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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1 hour ago, Raze said:

 

@Raze. All Hamas has to do is surrender and thing is over. 


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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11 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Raze. All Hamas has to do is surrender and thing is over. 

They were born in a prison. They’d rather die in battle then continue to live in one.

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From the Bad Hasbara podcast, an interesting interview with two Israeli antizionist guys, their thoughts, and experiences.

They both acknowledge that land as Palestine, and Zionism as something that happened in that land, so there's some identity question they face. They're open to calling themselves Palestinians, as people born there, and willing to build bridges for peaceful coexistence between different cultures or creeds, as it was before.

They are secular, which at some point in the interview brings up the circumcision issue, which everyone does, no matter religious or secular. In Christian countries, secular people don't bring their babies to put water on their heads, but Israelis bring their babies to chop a piece of their penis skin. Something to think about at least, they call this a bit cultish as a society. Muslims also practice circumcision, so that's one of the few common grounds. Funny!

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