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7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

What propaganda do you like? To expel Israel? They've tried it many times. I like more the propaganda of coexistence without religious fanaticism

Zionism is religious fanaticism 

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

You could say that the destruction of Gaza is a dividing line between a before and after. Israel has shown that if attacked, its response will be devastating. This could make its enemies think that it's not worth facing those consequences, while the alliance with Israel and the US brings benefits.

So what they have done in Gaza since October 7th was the right choice? 

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The only problem is that Allah orders Israel's destruction and that, but perhaps it's time to leave the Middle Ages and enter the 21st century, where war is a terrible idea and  trade is done with with friends and enemies. Seems that many muslims are understanding it.

How are Muslims in the Middle Ages? Let me guess? Women? 

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

This isn't something trivial. Muslims must turn their backs on the philosophy of the Muslim Brotherhood. It's absolutely toxic and must disappear from the world. Otherwise, the consequences could be apocalyptic.

The Muslim Brotherhood is a western backed project and a lot of higher up Muslims hate them

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1 hour ago, Twentyfirst said:

Zionism is religious fanaticism

Not exactly religious fanaticism, but a necessary ideology for the creation of Israel. I'm not saying I agree with that, but it's a fact, a reality that comes from a millennia-old tradition.

1 hour ago, Twentyfirst said:

what they have done in Gaza since October 7th was the right choice? 

What would you have done? Nothing? If your enemies declared war on you, what would you do? What did the US do when they bombed Pearl Harbor or when they demolished the towers? If you do nothing, they'll piss in your face, and that's the first step toward disappearing. It's like that in the schoolyard and in nations.

1 hour ago, Twentyfirst said:

How are Muslims in the Middle Ages? Let me guess? Women? 

Are like now. Tribal warriors who founded something resembling a civilization

1 hour ago, Twentyfirst said:

The Muslim Brotherhood is a western backed project and a lot of higher up Muslims hate them

Many hate it, but others don't. There are countries that promote the expansion of Islam. What is that idea? What are they seeking, war? What is Erdogan, or Iran, or Qatar doing? Do they want to found a Muslim empire? Be careful with these aggressive ideas; their consequences can be disastrous.

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1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

 

What would you have done? Nothing? If your enemies declared war on you, what would you do? What did the US do when they bombed Pearl Harbor or when they demolished the towers? If you do nothing, they'll piss in your face, and that's the first step toward disappearing. It's like that in the schoolyard and in nations.

 

I would have never been in that position. I don't steal other peoples homes

If I did and they attacked I would realize the error of my ways and fix the situation by giving back their homes

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17 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

I would have never been in that position. I don't steal other peoples homes

If I did and they attacked I would realize the error of my ways and fix the situation by giving back their homes

I understand your point of view, that Israel is evil, then it deserves the murders of 7 oct. This view leads to total devastation. In your opinion Israel shouldn't exist, but in their opinion it should, so the solution is war. 

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8 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

that Israel is evil

Self-absorbed and unconscious.

The collective narcissism of Zionism.

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35 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Self-absorbed and unconscious.

The collective narcissism of Zionism.

Well we proved this wrong in previous threads.  I thought this thread was supposed to be articles and postings.  If you want to get into another debate there are other threads which already debunked this. 


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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9 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I understand your point of view, that Israel is evil, then it deserves the murders of 7 oct. This view leads to total devastation. In your opinion Israel shouldn't exist, but in their opinion it should, so the solution is war. 

I really keep pointing back to international law. If Israel is breaking the law it should be treated like any other nation that does the same

You keep bringing up race, religion, and development 

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1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well we proved this wrong in previous threads.  I thought this thread was supposed to be articles and postings.  If you want to get into another debate there are other threads which already debunked this. 

The more you deny it the more you demonstrate how deep the self-absorbtion goes.

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14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Self-absorbed and unconscious.

The collective narcissism of Zionism.

Perhaps a survival mechanism. They think the only way to survive is to be aggressive. You either expand or shrink, since stability surrounded by hundreds of millions of enemies is impossible.

I'm not saying it's legitimate, just that it's a reality.

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12 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

I really keep pointing back to international law. If Israel is breaking the law it should be treated like any other nation that does the same

You keep bringing up race, religion, and development 

I don't bring un race. And about international law, any country that is in conflict does not respect them.

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On 10/3/2025 at 7:11 AM, Leo Gura said:

United States is the Great Satan.

Iran nails that.

Leo is a secret member of either the IRGC or Hezbollah, confirmed. 

I'm joking, of course. :P

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It's so weird that the creation of the Israel is being depicted as a peaceful event.

It was rather a violent event. Israeli terrorists massacred Palestinians and forced them with the gun on their head to leave their houses and escape the land. 

That is why in arabic its called Nakba (catastrophe).

But the zionists want to depict it as a wonder that they could establish a state. What they dont mention is, that they had to expel 750.000 Palestinians and steal their homed and kill them, exactly what they are doing in the Westbank today. 

The creation of Israel was already a disaster, created by israeli terrorists, that then went over into the IDF a terrorist organisation until today. 

 

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26 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Leo is a secret member of either the IRGC or Hezbollah, confirmed. 

I'm joking, of course. :P

Dude what kind of nonsense, 

Nobody here wants to defend Hizbollah or the Iranian Regime (that faces constantly violent protests from its own population that seriously risk their lives to go on those protests, many have been executed already, not compared to those weak people in ISrael that keep voting criminals into their parliament over the last at least 30 years.

Just see the reality as it is, that Israel and the USA are the greatest terrorist in this decade, in the last decade it was Germany and Britain

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On 18.10.2025 at 8:31 PM, Breakingthewall said:

Seeing it from outside seems that if Israel wants to exist as a nation, it cannot show indecision or doubt. Israel's enemies are coming to the conclusion that Israel is inevitable. This fact is causing Hamas. Hamas does not seek Israel's destruction; it seeks martyrdom by killing Jews, enemies of Allah, in order to go to paradise. It is the last resort of struggle.

At some point, the Palestinians will understand that what they have been sold is a terrible deal. Then, a real peace could be negotiated, and the Jewish fanatics will be relegated. But as long as the existential threat is simmering, they will have a voice, at least it seems so by logic

Man have you slept the last 80 years or did you close your eyes on purpose? If Israel would accept palestinians as their neighbours with equal rights and self determination in their own state, we would not have all that bloodsheding at all.

The ISraelis dont see the palestinians as humans, they deny their existence and their identity and palestinians are the only people in the world with no nation on their own land that they have been inhabiting for thousands of years.

The creation of Israel in 1948 was already an act of violence by violently massacring palestinians and forcing them to flee their houses in order to create a state of jewish majority, that was the ideology of the terrorist groups like Haganah.

Fast forward to the occupation of the remaining palestinian land as of 1967 we see thousands of palestinians being dehumanized and killed and humiliated for over 60 years now in Gaza and in the Westbank, eventually the ISraelis had to let go off their illegal occupation of Gaza in 2005 and started a huge blockade on them and turned them into a prison totally depending on the Israelis. Not forgetting the endless killings of palestinians in the occupied regions including the peaceful protests of 2018 and many more occasions.

The ISraelis are occupying palestinian lands, they have not even the right to be there not now and not in 1948.

If we consider the tragic of the crimes of the Holocaust that were commited by the europeans (not by the palestinians) than they should of course have the right to be refugees like so many people in the world are, they should live in peace with the palestinians that inhabit that land for thousands of years and not steal their land.

Imagine palestinians in the United States or in Germany would say, that they would like to create a state there, because they are being exterminated in the West Bank and in Gaza, how would americans or germans react to that? You would have immediately concentration camps and another Adolf Hitler rising to power.

Even now with the immigration you can see authoritarian criminal politicans taking power in europe and the USA, how would white peoiple react if another people would establish a state on their lands? What a pityful hypocrisy white people mostly have, it shows itself over and over again over the generations

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@Schahin

So in your opinion, when the Palestinians, aided by a coalition of countries totaling hundreds of millions of inhabitants, declared war on Israel, Israel should have let them wipe it off the map. The same as in the other two wars of extermination that were declared against it.

It's a valid and mature opinion. It implies that since, in your opinion, Israel is evil, it should have allowed itself to be exterminated.

But there were crazy people, those evil, greedy Jews, who chose (in a crazy and evil greedy Jewish way) to resist the attempts at extermination by an ocean of Muslims filled with religious hatred. And well, there the bad Jews remain, oppressing the good Palestinian victims, and you, as a good guy , are very angry with them, like many others goods and moral people 

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1 hour ago, Schahin said:

It's so weird that the creation of the Israel is being depicted as a peaceful event.

It was rather a violent event. Israeli terrorists massacred Palestinians and forced them with the gun on their head to leave their houses and escape the land. 

That is why in arabic its called Nakba (catastrophe).

But the zionists want to depict it as a wonder that they could establish a state. What they dont mention is, that they had to expel 750.000 Palestinians and steal their homed and kill them, exactly what they are doing in the Westbank today. 

The creation of Israel was already a disaster, created by israeli terrorists, that then went over into the IDF a terrorist organisation until today. 

 

Yes, always only one side of the equation. A mystical evil that happened only to one side 😉

Edited by Nivsch

🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

Yes, always only one side of the equation. A mystical evil that happened only to one side 😉

Why Israel is not making peace even though the hostages are released?

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