Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

[Breakingthewall]

@zazen

1 hour ago, zazen said:

 

Perhaps you don't understand that every Israeli who dies in Gaza is a life that Israel and Western culture give to the Palestinians. A less generous culture would turn that into Hiroshima without mercy, as it happened in history always. But you the Muslims take advantage of that morality, that you perceive as weakness, and cry as victims so exploited and abused when west gave you everything. Without the west you would be tribes, or the otoman empire. Ask mercy to the otoman empire, they will laugh not believing what you are saying and then impaling you 

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, zazen said:

Your such a racist bigot with retarded views yourself.

No , I don't talk about races. Races are the same, im half Turkish. The retarded thing is believing in a book written by a warlord pedophile 1400 years ago. Anyone who believes that is retarded by definition. Anyone should agree. Imagine that alien come and see that you worship a warlord pedophile and think that what he wrote is the TRUTH. They won't believe it 

This is not spreading hate, just spreading common sense. Who can believe that? Please

Edited Saturday at 02:23 PM by Breakingthewall

[Nivsch]

9 hours ago, zazen said:

But the 96% offer at TABA runs into the same issue due to the settlements scattered everywhere.

I get you, far from ideal. 

And still, an independent state.

Honestly, and I don't care at all and have no sentiment to the settlements, I think that it is between very difficult to impossible to evacuate them.

When Israel evacuated forcefully 8,000 Israeli citizens from Gaza in 2005 it caused a lot of uprising and in part of our society it was like a open wound emotionally to many, as I hear from people in the right-wing sector until these days.

Edited Saturday at 02:30 PM by Nivsch

[zazen]

51 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Perhaps you don't understand that every Israeli who dies in Gaza is a life that Israel and Western culture give to the Palestinians. A less generous culture would turn that into Hiroshima without mercy, as it happened in history always.

Your using Hiroshima as a hallmark of brutality that the Palestinians should be grateful for not having happen to them by a more generous culture - but Hiroshima was a product of Western culture itself!

51 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

But you the Muslims take advantage of that morality, that you perceive as weakness, and cry as victims so exploited and abused when west gave you everything.

What morality? We just acknowledged who dropped two nukes on a already defeated nation in civilian packed towns. The only country to ever use its nukes not once but twice has come from ''Western civilization''. Don't talk to me about morality or I'll embarrass you with endless examples to the contrary.

Zionists have perfected the art of political victimhood by thinking ''we can't be oppressors because we were historically oppressed''. You flip and project everything. Your definition of oppression is only the worst kind - ''if people aren't being holocausted then they are't oppressed''.

The West have subjugated and dominated the entire region - what do you mean they gave Muslims everything? Much of the world fought against the West for taking from them in colonial times, and still fight them today to balance the the world order in which the West dominate. That dominance is falling under the systems own contradictions as Western elites hollow out the imperial core for special interests over national interests.

That doesn't mean the West didn't give anything at all, but they didn't give everything. There's also a manner in which to give someone something - you don't share your gifts of knowledge, technology and trade through domination and conditioned on them being subordinate to you. You can give through transmission not just with conditions - which is how a lot of knowledge passed from Islamic Cordoba and Sicily up into Europe to kick start the Renaissance. Should we start saying you should be grateful to the Muslims for that? Do you even know that history to begin with? 

Sorry for sounding harsh - I match the energy someone is commenting in and as you give off a bigoted worldview I feel compelled to respond in kind. Check this:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPYTwiUCNrv/

45 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

I get you, far from ideal. 

And still, an independent state.

Honestly, and I don't care at all about the settlements, it is very difficult to impossible evacuate them. When Israel evacuated forcefully 10,000 Israeli citizens from Gaza in 2005 it caused a lot of uprising and in part of our society it was like a open wound emotionally to many, as I hear from people in the right-wing sector.

It's independent but not sovereign as any normal state would normally be which is where the issue is. This is why they never come to any conclusion and which is why I also think this next deal will also not end up bringing the peace we think. There's many holes and problems with its implementation that they are going to run into - Trump is prematurely claiming some victory because he dreams of the nobel peace prize. We can still hope though man.

Edited Saturday at 03:08 PM by zazen

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, zazen said:

What morality? We just acknowledged who dropped two nukes on a already defeated nation in civilian packed towns. The only country to ever use its nukes not once but twice has come from ''Western civilization''. Don't talk to me about morality or I'll embarrass you with endless examples to the contrary.

The Japanese deserve at least 3

The Japanese empire. Funny. Hitler, Goebbels and Dr mengele were empathetic emos in comparison 

Edited Saturday at 04:55 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, zazen said:

Sorry for sounding harsh - I match the energy someone is commenting in and as you give off a bigoted worldview I feel compelled to respond in kind. Check this:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPYTwiUCNrv

This old man have the intellect of a teenager. Figth for liberty. Is possible be more naive? What liberty? The only liberty that exists in this actual world is money. Be ruled by one dictator from your ethnicity instead another from another ethnicity is not liberty, is exactly the same. And the other side is not a dictator, is a democracy 

Edited Saturday at 05:52 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

What do you think about this?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMc7LXbuKZ8/?igsh=MWN6bXdjZW8yNWgybQ==

 

This seems more constructive to me

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK9e0fzo9Hf/?igsh=amJobHU2NGM3dDRy

Edited Saturday at 06:46 PM by Breakingthewall

[zazen]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

What do you think about this?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMc7LXbuKZ8/?igsh=MWN6bXdjZW8yNWgybQ==

 

This seems more constructive to me

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK9e0fzo9Hf/?igsh=amJobHU2NGM3dDRy

1st vid. Of course terrible for kids to be taught such things. Why do you think whoever’s teaching them have got such distorted views as to teach kids in that way?

2nd vid. Notice he says Israelis goal is to live in their country and chill..then he says we don’t have a problem with the Palestinian in Gaza.

The problem is Palestinians also want their own country to live in that they have a UN resolution for. Notice he says Palestinians in Gaza - what is Gaza? Why is it called that and not Palestine? Because it’s not a state..so what is it?

Imagine I locked you in your house and lived nicely on your front yard while not letting you out - then you get mad at me and I reply “Jesus why so mad? I just want to live peaceful here and chill”. Do you not see the issue?’

If you were the Palestinians in Gaza what would you do.  Sit and read Eckhart Tolle? Those old men you say have kid intellects when responding to that question were the previous head of Shin bet and previous Israeli Prime Minister Ehud who both say they’d take up arms to fight.

[Breakingthewall]

24 minutes ago, zazen said:

Imagine I locked you in your house and lived nicely on your front yard while not letting you out -

They lock you in your house because your philosophy is the extermination of the other. If your philosophy were coexistence and development, they wouldn't lock you up.

[zazen]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

They lock you in your house because your philosophy is the extermination of the other. If your philosophy were coexistence and development, they wouldn't lock you up.

Zionists philosophy at the time of the founding of their nation wasn’t coexistence but instead resulted in the nakba - are you saying they should have been locked up then?

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, but absolute powerlessness does the same.

Their philosophy and worldview distorts to such extremes because of dispossession and being locked up - you got the cause and affect ass backwards. Perhaps you didn’t have a good siesta today because your still thick as a taco.

[Lyubov]

2 minutes ago, zazen said:

Zionists philosophy at the time of the founding of their nation wasn’t coexistence but instead resulted in the nakba - are you saying they should have been locked up then?

EXACTLY 

Zionism itself is entirely about extermination and rewriting history. There is about as much coexistence in zionism as there is in nazism. The whole ideology hinges on believing lies and denying rightful ownership. The whole region wants Israel gone because they stole the land. The country didn't even exist until 1948  You don't get to just steal land and genocide everyone and then act the victim when this violence boomerangs back at you, they want to be the victim so badly...

[Breakingthewall]

30 minutes ago, zazen said:

Zionists philosophy at the time of the founding of their nation wasn’t coexistence but instead resulted in the nakba - are you saying they should have been locked up then?

The nakba happened after a war of expulsion that the Arabs started, as you know.

Some Muslims have common sense, for example this one

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNsMsle2OBw/?igsh=MTNzZXljMmU1cHB1OQ==

This one too

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMZtqp0IGE6/?igsh=MW1uMGtoeTl6cDBtNg==

And this Arab seems that he understands Muslim brotherhood quite good

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPWSsZSE7K8/?igsh=dTc3dmwydXVrcWVs

This Palestinian woman seems that doesn't agree with your ideas

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNoMb71R4d-/?igsh=MThubDcwNDltNTZhNA==

In the other hand, those women and not so peaceful 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOlO27PE96c/?igsh=Z3ozYng1dnlodjQ=

Edited Saturday at 09:11 PM by Breakingthewall

[Leo Gura]

This thread is not about debating the Palestine issue. This thread is for sharing evidence of Israeli deception tactics.

Please take your debates to the other Israel/Palestine news thread, where you can argue endlessly about which side is more wrong.