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[OBEler]

@Leo Gura Can you reveal which psychedelic is for you better for contemplation and spiritual work than 5 Meo DMT?

[museumoftrees]

On 4/3/2026 at 5:28 AM, LoneWonderer said:

Here's an example mate. So I used to live in Mozambique. There the people feared the cops because they where corrupt to the bone. South Africa has a border with Mozambique. Ask any Afrikaner (white South African) who has ever holidayed in Mozambique and the first thing he'll mention is how much they hate the cops. Traffic cops would always stop any car they could get their hands on and attempt to extort money from you. They made up bogus claims that you were speeding at 80km in a 60km area even though you were going at 50km/h because the roads are shit. 

But here's the thing. They didn't even care. Both of you knew you where going at 50km but it's so corrupt, they just tell you were going 80km and pay the fine. If you refused you could have them keep you there waiting all day long because by law if you refuse to comply with "the law" they can even take you to jail. The trick was always to ask them for the speeding ticket and tell them you would go to the station to pay it. Then of course all their bogus claims couldn't work and they let you go.

They had maaany such strategies and weird excuses to extract money from people. Another time they had a speed camera that showed a green car going over the speed limit, and they told us to pay the fine. That's all good mate but our car is Silver in color! 😅 Another time the cop stopped us and asked my mom if she had been to church that morning as it was Sunday. Anyways it was always one story or another with these guys and they always kept it interesting.

Why do they do all this? Because their wage is 50$ a month. You can't survive on that.

In India police rape, beat and extort street kids, beggars and low lifes of society. 

Appreciate the example! Thank you for taking the time

[cistanche_enjoyer]

3 hours ago, OBEler said:

 

@Leo Gura Can you reveal which psychedelic is for you better for contemplation and spiritual work than 5 Meo DMT?

 

I think it might be THC. He already talked about it. Just a pity that it doesn’t seem to have the same effect for most other people. Hence why he said that we need to research ourselves.

I would be very interested though in the other 20 chemicals he tried!

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura Can you reveal which psychedelic is for you better for contemplation and spiritual work than 5 Meo DMT?

I'd rather not since you guys will just run out and copy me. It's better if you do your own testing.

[Davino]

Gorgeous quote #512

[OBEler]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I'd rather not since you guys will just run out and copy me. It's better if you do your own testing.

You already told about 5 Meo malt as better substance than 5 Meo DMT. Was it any harmful? Some people who were curious tried it out. Some shared your opinion and were thankful. Others were neutral. 

Not everyone here has access to 40 substances and can try every one out. Not everyone here has time to do all the testing and research. So it would be of great help for those with limited access to know which one could help more.

[Leo Gura]

37 minutes ago, OBEler said:

So it would be of great help

This assumes a lot.

[Magnanimous]

Leo what genetic traits does a top leader have? 

 

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura is it at least a known psychedelic? Or is it rare like 5 Meo malt?

[Stick]

Leo, you said that assassinations is a good tactic, on that I agree.
Can you provide some insight on why it didnt work with Iran and when killing enemy leaders should be avoided in general. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

4 minutes ago, Stick said:

Leo, you said that assassinations is a good tactic, on that I agree.
Can you provide some insight on why it didnt work with Iran and when killing enemy leaders should be avoided in general. 

Haha, Iran will be remembered as the Trump biggest mistake. 

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Stick said:

Leo, you said that assassinations is a good tactic,

I didn't say it is good. I said it is effective.

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura If you found a new rare chemical for perfect contemplation there is no way we can test out for ourselves because we don't know that it even exists.

Even if everyone is different, 5 Meo DMT works for everyone almost similar in terms of effects. Same with malt. I know that because I saw many people trying it out. So your best tool for contemplation could be also useful for most of us.

If it's a common psychedelic or just weed then I can understand that you don't want to reveal it. People here should then already found out for themselves. 

 

[Davino]

@OBEler My bet is that 1 it's a substance that works for him in a unique way, otherwise I don't see why holding it back; unless 2 it's for the retreat and wants to avoid legal overview, although I'd be skeptical of how novel could such substance be.

It would be great to know the substance behind the teaser, given that one of the biggest value Leo provides is in the psychedelic field. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

Ayahuasca in sequencial dosage can give effects long enogth to make long contemplations. And vomiting dont happen once one creates capacity and experience. I gave a break in my usage but was serving for me to contemplate deep. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

Actualized Quotes #515 https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-515

A video about this or a long post about this would be interesting. I am able to guess people worldviews based on their speach as well. But to become  proficent in this skill would be great. 

[Loveeee]

@Leo Gura Those news psychedelics, how much better are they than 5-MeO? As much as 5-MeO is better than LSD ? 

It took you this long to find them, just save us the time big bro

[Raze]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't say it is good. I said it is effective.

It isn’t, they just replace the person. Sometimes it makes the enemy more dangerous.

What war in modern history was won by assassinations? 

Edited April 5 by Raze

[ZenSwift]

On 12/28/2025 at 9:36 PM, ZenSwift said:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-341

Hey Leo, I've been having a desire to cultivate a Kriya practice. Especially since you have preached a bit about it being a powerful practice. I've been neglecting the discipline of learning the techniques, believing in it, and then doing the practices religiously. It's been tougher to hook my mind with it especially since it's more of a long term investment thing. 

My initial thought is to contemplate this further and deeply connect it with my values, and then just bite the bullet and do an experiment of practicing consistently for 6 months to a year and see my results, which is easier said than done. 

Do you have any other suggestions for really building a practice? More specifically, getting my mind to see the value of it such that the commitment to it becomes obvious? 

On 12/28/2025 at 9:52 PM, Leo Gura said:

That is tough.

You have to somehow convince yourself it is the most important thing in the world.

What will convince you of that, I don't know. A major Awakening to God would help. Via a psychedelic. That's what convinces me the most.

 

Okay so I have an update on this.

I've got an insight around how Kriya practice is useful.

Strong Kriya Practice = Rewired nervous system = Calm / Processed Emotions = Presence = Insight = The foundation for Proper Sensemaking = 

No Fear = Intelligence

I realize how much we deceive ourselves with overwhelm, bias, survival. If you cannot calm down your emotional system, you are fucked fucked when it comes to sensemaking. For me, most problems in my survival challenges stem from fear.

Also, If you don't have proper sense-making, you are screwed in all endeavors. If you cannot access the truth, you are destined for deep corruption of your entire system. The worst part is, you won't even be able to understand how you're corrupted because you are lost in a labyrinth of a maze that your mind has made for yourself. 

Edited April 5 by ZenSwift

[Leo Gura]

@OBEler If cannabis works on you, test the entire gamut of cannabinoids.