Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Ulax]

1 minute ago, aurum said:

It’s not just “these days” though. It’s maybe stronger due to MAGA, but the left has been like this for a long time. 

They’ve always been in a fight against fascism and injustice.

It is 

[Terell Kirby]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

None of you have a clue what is means to,

LOVE YOUR CULTURE!

NONE OF YOU LOVE YOUR CULTURE! YOU CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THAT IS!

Glad I can’t imagine it these days - the thought makes me sick

[r0ckyreed]

American Conservatives don’t even LOVE their culture. They won’t die for America, they will exploit and engage in corruptive means to get others to die for America. Look at Trump. He does not LOVE America. MAGA does NOT LOVE USA. They love only what benefits them. Leftists care more about culture and society than conservatives. Conservatives only care about whatever benefits their bubble. Conservatives are individualistic and leftists are collectivist. Leftists care more about collective survival.

[JTL]

@Leo Gura saw one of the blog videos on Lenin, and the first part was enlightning, but hillsdale college yuck. Had to stop after they guy said welfarism was one of the greatest evils of Lenin. The only thing that is needed to know about american conservatives is that there is no moral, only personal gain, all their believes goes back to this.   

[Xonas Pitfall]

2 hours ago, Terell Kirby said:

None of you have a clue what is means to,

LOVE YOUR CULTURE!

NONE OF YOU LOVE YOUR CULTURE! YOU CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THAT IS!

I’m also getting flashbacks from Leo saying, “NO ONE IS AS AWAKE AS I AM! NO ONE! NO ONE!”

Of course. People rape, kill, and pillage for their nation, tribe, clan, religion, or identity. People strap bombs to themselves for their god. People sacrifice their lives for their ideology, die defending their homeland, and dedicate their entire lives to spreading their religion or worldview.

I think people were adding nuance to the concept of “love.“

1 hour ago, r0ckyreed said:

American Conservatives don’t even LOVE their culture. They won’t die for America, they will exploit and engage in corruptive means to get others to die for America. Look at Trump. He does not LOVE America. MAGA does NOT LOVE USA. They love only what benefits them. Leftists care more about culture and society than conservatives. Conservatives only care about whatever benefits their bubble. Conservatives are individualistic and leftists are collectivist. Leftists care more about collective survival.

Exactly.

A group’s cohesion doesn’t necessarily prove that its members love or even fully believe in everything the group represents.

For example, an oligarch might not genuinely love every aspect of an oligarchic system. But they can still strongly defend it because the system protects their wealth and status. A person might have serious doubts or dislike certain parts of their own tradition, but changing or abandoning the larger system can feel much more threatening than tolerating its contradictions. 

Usually, the more corrupt, biased, self-preserving, and unquestioning the system is, the more appealing it can become to the ego when the ego benefits from it.

Even if you occasionally question whether it’s true, if the system gives you more status, security, power, or self-preservation, you will still be pulled toward it.

The ideologies that offer the strongest ego incentives can become the ones that survive and reproduce most effectively.

A culture with enough psychopaths in power can force its way into existence.

The stricter the rules, the more coercion you can use to preserve them.

An abusive father can beat his wife and children to keep the family hierarchy intact.

A regime can brainwash children until they’re willing to strap a bomb to their chest for it.

That’s why you get Elon Musk, who was initially more progressive, against Trump, becoming incredibly supportive of conservatives and Trump, funding his election campaign, and buying Twitter. Do you think it’s because he deeply LOVES conservative values, or because he benefits from tax-avoidance and asset-protection policies being implemented? Is it really “love” for the culture?

That’s why you get Somalis crying when the age of consent is raised: https://www.instagram.com/reels/DPdQUspCF7f/; or when minorities are given more rights, etc.

Do they really love their culture so deeply that they’re devastated when it changes, or do they realize they’re losing the “goodies” that the system gave them?

Is it culture, or just the fact that the culture aligns more with the incentives of the ego?

Edited Saturday at 10:58 PM by Xonas Pitfall

[Joshe]

It’s time to feed Leo’s superiority complex. This is just him finding some weird thing to use as an excuse to tell you he’s more conscious than you all are. It has nothing to do with any deep insight that you’re missing or that he wants you to see. It’s a recurring pattern. Tends to come in waves. This wave probably isn’t over. 

[Willie]

“He was childishly selfish.”

- inscription on Donald Trump’s grave

[How to be wise]

@Leo Gura You should share in your blog the quote by Edwin Arthur Burtt where he says

‘The only way to avoid becoming a metaphysician is to say nothing.’

 

 

[Adrian colby]

On 15/08/2026 at 2:59 PM, Leo Gura said:

PRECISELY!

You have no comprehension of how much they LOVE their culture.

That’s fragmented love. That is the acceptance of one aspect of reality which is not unconditional. They have focused love down to such a limited point that it becomes self destructive. It’s part of the illusion of separation and why it falls out of harmony with everything else. It’s not an acceptance of culture but an identification with it for personal benefit or validation
 

it’s perfectly understandable how people can become so deluded that they could get stuck in this trap and blow themselves up for it. 

Edited 14 hours ago by Adrian colby

[Natasha Tori Maru]

On 16/08/2026 at 11:06 AM, Joshe said:

It’s time to feed Leo’s superiority complex. This is just him finding some weird thing to use as an excuse to tell you he’s more conscious than you all are. It has nothing to do with any deep insight that you’re missing or that he wants you to see. It’s a recurring pattern. Tends to come in waves. This wave probably isn’t over. 

Fear, anger & jealously are the poisons we drink expecting the other person to die. Don't drink.

Edited 7 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Rishabh R]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Fear, anger & jealously are the poisons we drink expecting the other person to die. Don't drink.

On the point. 🎯 

[Joshe]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Fear, anger & jealously are the poisons we drink expecting the other person to die. Don't drink.

I'm neither of those things regarding this, so this isn't relevant to me here. Some corners are darker than others. It is what it is.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, Joshe said:

I'm neither of those things regarding this, so this isn't relevant to me here. Some corners are darker than others. It is what it is.

Sometimes we have to inspect why we are motivated to respond.

In fact - it is always beneficial to do so. Especially when we are analyzing someone's behavior rather than relating to them

Edited 4 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Joshe]

4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Sometimes we have to inspect why we are motivated to respond.

In fact - it is always beneficial to do so. Especially when we are analyzing someone's behavior rather than relating to them

I analyze my own behavior 100x more than anyone else's. Understanding the mind is just what I do. Which is why I do it with others as well. For example, I've probably spent over a dozen hours asking "why do I write the things I do on actualized.org", lol. 

Imagine having deeply inspected every type of action you take, and knowing what the root motivation is. Do that enough, and you no longer need to "inspect" specific actions anymore, as you already know the motivation behind them.

You and I keep coming back to this idea of perpetual "not knowing". It's like you don't want to know some things and want them to forever remain open to interpretation or something. Resisting conclusion related to the psyche or something. IDK. Interesting though. 

Is it possible to fully account for and understand your motivations?

If so, what would the implications be? 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

33 minutes ago, Joshe said:

I analyze my own behavior 100x more than anyone else's. Understanding the mind is just what I do. Which is why I do it with others as well. For example, I've probably spent over a dozen hours asking "why do I write the things I do on actualized.org", lol. 

Imagine having deeply inspected every type of action you take, and knowing what the root motivation is. Do that enough, and you no longer need to "inspect" specific actions anymore, as you already know the motivation behind them.

You and I keep coming back to this idea of perpetual "not knowing". It's like you don't want to know some things and want them to forever remain open to interpretation or something. Resisting conclusion related to the psyche or something. IDK. Interesting though. 

Is it possible to fully account for and understand your motivations?

If so, what would the implications be? 

Not needing closure. Or Resolve. Settled. Residing - none of these are resistance to knowing. When I am in dialogue with someone I don't always feel like I need to come to a conclusion.

In any event - I suspect you did not attempt to relationally understand me here - which is more what I am pointing to. My comment quoting you could have been a comment illustrating Leo's behavior. I don't think you asked me what I meant before assuming it applied to you (at least, this is what it how it appears) - and then defended.

Relational understanding vs analytical understanding. Go too far one way we tend to retard the other.

Edited 2 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Alexop]

On 8/15/2026 at 10:58 AM, Leo Gura said:

Stop analyzing it and just imagine loving your culture so much you are willing to be shot in the head for it.

This is why a marxist excess of Green country will eventually be destoryed, they will not want to fight for their country. They will be such fools that they will let the armies drive their tanks through their cities. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Alexop