Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Rishabh R]

I opened the blog posts after a while and saw this post which was pure gold . Thanks @Leo Gura.

[Human Mint]

Aubrey Marcus x John Demartini talk is indeed a very interesting talk on relativity. At one point Aubrey wanted to end the conversation because Demartini said that there were upsides to the murder of kids. Funny thing is that he was the one there helping the families whereas Aubrey is just programmed with good and bad.

[bazera]

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-583

A recent video from Ralston complements this quote nicely.

 

Edited yesterday at 09:19 AM by bazera

[Davino]

Quote #584 simply sublime

[Joseph Maynor]

I feel like this all wrong because instead of meeting people, the premise here is that the Internet somehow could solve a problem it's not capable of solving.  Because we don't know who we're dealing with.  

[Joseph Maynor]

People want to say there is no good or evil but then you have to look at that person and see who they're benefitting from that.  It's a sick game.  You're better off working a regular job than engaging in this.

[No1Here2c]

But Leo,

What about the past?

It doesnt seem like I am imagining it right now. It seems like that is how I've gotten to this moment at all. Is seeming too also occurring as Imagination in this precise moment?

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

But Leo,

What about the past?

It doesnt seem like I am imagining it right now. It seems like that is how I've gotten to this moment at all. Is seeming too also occurring as Imagination in this precise moment?

You are imagining the past right now.

There is no past otherwise.

Infinity has no past. It has to invent it.

Edited 23 hours ago by Leo Gura

[No1Here2c]

I can always point to something of a memory in this present moment which gives the appearance of a 'coming from' some 'place' or 'time' other than where exactly I always sit, here & now.

That is, I can do so from the ordinary state of human consciousness. Upon entering some other 'expanded' state the ability can be seen through for what it exactly is: Imagination.

Certain states, of radical tangentiality, the ability of memory may completely cease. Upon this, consciousness reveals itself to be always fully immersed in immediate presence.

Is this correct interpretation?

Edited 23 hours ago by No1Here2c

[Leo Gura]

@No1Here2c Infinite Consciousness needs to imagine a finite human life in order for you to feel like a human inside a world. This involves inventing a stream of very realistic memories of your origin. These memories create the foundation for a sense of human self. Without these memories you literally would not be human. You have to believe your memories are real, otherwise you would no longer be a self.

You invented the very notion of "a memory".

But what is a memory? How can it even exist? You never questioned this. You just took for granted that memories are a thing.

Edited 23 hours ago by Leo Gura

[No1Here2c]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

But what is a memory? How can it even exist? You never questioned this. You just took for granted that memories are a thing.

Memory seems to be the ability to call to mind the vague imprint of an experience. Attach to that a narrative of relative cohesion, tying it somehow Into the present display of content and you have a working system to induce the sense of a past in this current immediate present.

Edited 21 hours ago by No1Here2c

[No1Here2c]

It seems any clarity I can find slips away as the rest of things. I can imagine that means what I thought I had possessed as clarity was in fact not truly it, but rather another passing experience within the content of imagination?

[Human Mint]

What really intrigues me is why memory and imagination is so consistent...

[vibv]

Because this whole thing has STRUCTURE. Structure that's being held up by Divine Will, but Structure which you can't easily escape. God wants it so.

God has placed itself into a Divine Labyrinth. This thing has LAYERS.

And God itself doesn't know how it could be solved, that's what makes this so exciting  ✨

[Staples]

1 hour ago, Human Mint said:

What really intrigues me is why memory and imagination is so consistent...

Well, it's not. People misremember things all the time.

And your memory is always colored by your current mood and situation.

Consistency is an illusion. 

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Human Mint said:

What really intrigues me is why memory and imagination is so consistent...

Because otherwise you'd be batshit crazy. Which some people are.

Edited 6 hours ago by Leo Gura

[integral]

Memory = Imagination Loop

[No1Here2c]

9 hours ago, Human Mint said:

What really intrigues me is why memory and imagination is so consistent...

The consistency of memory is one of the ego's weapons to retain the sense of reality as it is understood. 

If your memories did not align with your conception of who you think you are and what you think the world is, the conscious experience which is presented to 'you' as 'real' would feel much akin to a dreamlike state or a visionary reverie. 

Notice that 'you' are just another aspect of the presentation of which consciousness is aware. All memory, including that of dreams, yesterday, psychedelic experience, and even the very moment 'that just passed', is occuring right now. It is held actively in awareness, otherwise it does not exist.

People take for granted just how very fragile the sense of self/reality actually is. You can quite literally lose it in the flash of a second. For no reason at all.

The ego is very powerful and typically this will not ever occur, not out of the blue. But it certainly can. For some it most definitely has. What do you think a sudden psychotic break is?

Think for a second, the correct piece of paper, about the size of a apple seed, is often enough for an individual to experience directly, in conscious experience, the complete dissolution of selfhood, loss of cohesive memory, and a shattering of all understanding of existence as it was conceived/known.

Don't you think this is a telltale sign?

Does this not point to truths about consciousness which cannot be easily found elsewhere?

Consciousness is not bound by memory, time, space, selfhood, physicality, sanity, cohesive 'sense-making' or any other conceptual construction. Concepts cannot be a ground for consciousness, all concepts & ideas occur within consciousness itself.

You may not even have the capacities from your current state of consciousness to recognize that selfhood is a concept.

Selfhood & physicality are Illusory. It is as if you lived inside of an origami paper box, though somehow believed whole heartedly that it was constructed of solid stone. Furthermore, the ego utilizes the weapon of fear in order to reinforce the idea, the ego clings dearly to the inside of this paper box, as if there is nothing else beyond it. The paper box floats atop an endless sea. The ocean will dissolve it in due time.

This paper box is even sometimes refolded by ego, into an origami boat, which ego utilizes to sets sail purposefully upon the tides, all in the name of seeking truth. Yet upon first encounter with, steers immediately away, as it is intuitively knows that truth will quickly sink the ship, and along with it, ego itself.

Sanity– Illusory.

Held in this moment as a thin veil through which ordinary human perspective is bound, though consciousness as a whole is not. Awareness can experience what you define as complete & utter madness. Consciousness makes no distinction. What you call sanity, is but a very narrow slice of all possible experience.

Memory– imagined in this exact moment.

Memory is tied into your experience through a sleight of hand trick. It is projected as 'having had occured' 'elsewhere' other than this immediate present moment. Recognize that all memory, regardless of 'where else' you believe to have 'picked them up' is occuring exactly right now.

[No1Here2c]

So much goes lost in transcription. Words will never capture the Absolute. Infinity cannot be captured fully by finitude. If even a glimpse were possible you'd probably start to lose your sense.

Without these basic building blocks, you would not be sitting here reading these words right now.

Edited 2 hours ago by No1Here2c

[No1Here2c]

9 hours ago, vibv said:

Because this whole thing has STRUCTURE. Structure that's being held up by Divine Will, but Structure which you can't easily escape. God wants it so.

God has placed itself into a Divine Labyrinth. This thing has LAYERS.

And God itself doesn't know how it could be solved, that's what makes this so exciting  ✨

The way out of the Labrynth is Schedule 1 Narcotics.*

But dont worry, you will always end up back right in the center with the minotaur.

*Abide by local state & federal laws

Edited 1 hour ago by No1Here2c