Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

If you would took out this sort of characters from this Forum you would probably almost be talking alone here.

We have a wide range of views here and I don't like to control anyone's views.

If there are views you dislike, that's diversity, that's democracy. Community naturally comes with weird views that you will dislike.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Rafael Thundercat]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

We have a wide range of views here and I don't like to control anyone's views.

If there are views you dislike, that's diversity, that's democracy. Community naturally comes with weird views that you will dislike.

Good , I will remember this when you get all bitchy when some guys start getting to much here. You even alresdy call my attention for small things. I have the rigth to get pissed out dealing with these sneaky snakes here dont I?

[Leo Gura]

29 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I have the rigth to get pissed

Keep it civil, without personal attacks.

If you argue your views rationally and respectfully, then there is no problem.

When you communicate from a pissy place, you undermine your own points.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[gengar]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Dude, you love to take things I say and twist them into way more than it is.

It is like you are hunting for things to be disgruntled about.

Maybe you are on the nose with that. I will reflect.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Leo Gura  I think due to your status as a teacher, followers get mixed up when it comes to values driven judgements.

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Not to be a jerk, but for all of his fancy talk, you can play all of Jonathan Blow’s games, which took him a life time to create, and you will get less enrichment than just contemplating one of my videos.

The above statement, if received from the context of 'teacher' (or leader), appears as a values driven statement dressed up as a universal judgement.

Just my observation - either it is users unable to discern when you make a personal values post vs universal truth, or an inability to separate art from artist. IE the work, from the Leo.

But this is why we have a forum and access to you - so we can harass you for further understanding!  

The trouble arises, and where users err, is coming at your posts with loaded judgements or without open questioning in good faith.

 

[Leo Gura]

My point was simply that video games are not a good medium for depth.

That doesn't make video games any less artistic or great. Games are just a poor medium for enriching your mind. In the same way that Playboy is a poor medium for enriching your mind. Imagine if Playboy tried to make itself high-brow literature. That would be silly. I feel like Jonathan Blow is doing that with video games and I don't find it effective.

Obviously that's just my opinion. You don't have to agree with me.

But hey, you are welcome to run the experiment. Play one of Blow's games, watch one of my videos, and compare which one enriches your mind more. This isn't exactly a matter of faith.

@Natasha Tori Maru I am unusually blunt and this turns people off because they aren't used to such a thing.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Leo Gura you never have to justify or qualify a values based discernment in my opinion. Ever. It's really cool that you do, though! 

It's just people. They do not have the requisite openness to approach anything in good faith, and they cannot help but push their judgement and unconscious bias onto everything around them. I don't know how you deal with it. But I don't have to tell you ! Bias is your domain ☺️

The bluntness is all good for me at least, I prefer it. Probably conditioning from working construction. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Terell Kirby]

35 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I am unusually blunt and this turns people off because they aren't used to such a thing.

Appeasement isn’t your thing, I get it. But yes, unusual in that most of us can’t afford a lifestyle that allows us to not appease or placate to others without serious consequences to our well being. When we engage with your style of communication, it can be difficult to integrate because it shines a light on how inauthentic we are and how we live on bullshit narratives.

It’s like a mirror, either we self reflect or lash out- but it all comes from deep insecurities and avoidance of harsh truths about the ways in which we live.

You could appease us more, but you choose not to. Whether that’s good or bad- I don’t know. But in twisted way, it can work in that it forces us to reckon with unappealing aspects of personality, to ultimately realize it’s irrelevant to when it comes to our own truth seeking journey.

Edited 1 hour ago by Terell Kirby

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

You could appease us more, but you choose not to. Whether that’s good or bad- I don’t know. 

Leo does appease his audience and followers. 

He has 60k + posts ON THE FORUM ALONE. That is a lot of explaining, couching and elaboration. Whenever something isn't clear, Leo elaborates. 

I probably look like I am white-knighting here, but shit me, it's just facts 🫪🫪🫪

[Terell Kirby]

16 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Leo does appease his audience and followers. 

Leo and the act of appeasing don’t mix at all. That’s like Oil and water

16 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

He has 60k + posts ON THE FORUM ALONE. That is a lot of explaining, couching and elaboration.

Sure he explains things, but he doesn’t indulge in fantasies of his audience for their approval.

Not that he should, but that’s clearly distinct from simply explaining a stance on an existential topic.

Edited 1 hour ago by Terell Kirby

[Leo Gura]

I want to be open to changing my mind. If I am wrong, point it out. I do change my mind about many things. And if I am too harsh I try to be softer in the future.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Terell Kirby]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I want to be open to changing my mind. If I am wrong, point it out. I do change my mind about many things. And if I am too harsh I try to be softer in the future.

This is what we love about you- thanks 

Edited 57 minutes ago by Terell Kirby