Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[AerisVahnEphelia]

13 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

True. I am in Bahia Brasil and here although women still value strong men, the locals are dating men that in the eyes of capitalistic society would never have luck with the level of beauty some women they are dating have. Some hot brunnetes here can care less for me a white dude. They like to date guys that are natives even if they just own a bike and have a simple job in a supermarket. Hoe Math calculations dont apply universaly. 

 
There is no theories to save you from life.
 

[integral]

@Leo Gura That RO machine is not remineralizing. You have to warn people and tell them they must remineralize their water.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Typically when someone cannot understand the nature of something, they need and cling to excessive theory and generalisations. 

You find the more an outcome is desired or needed, the more the concept is clung to. The less direct experience the person has, the more the lean to abstraction to compensate.

When you grasp a thing you normally have the ability to shed all concept and frames of understanding - loosely picking them up or throwing them away. But not requiring them as 'scaffolding' as much as when there is emotional ties to outcome and an experience gap.

Having said that - sometimes the reverse can be true. A system can be genuinely complex and resistant to direct simple grasp. It cannot be reduced and needs nuance and case-by-case assessment using a frame. 

But I think a stout mind can assess and throw away all pre-conceived notions of a thing and approach with 'I don't know'.

No attachment to concepts, but full access to them. Ultimately, all need to be discarded.

[Giancarlo]

On 4/14/2026 at 2:47 AM, Leo Gura said:

It was hard for me even in my 30s. I took it too far. I can't imagine a youngster going through my arc. That would be very risky.

@Leo Gura Can you elaborate by what you mean by this? Was it simply disillusionment with money, success, sex, etc? Or something more serious?

And I guess the follow-up question: how did you resolve it?

[gengar]

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It is easy to attribute natural healing to anything.

He wasn't exactly conducting a scientific blinded study.

I can break my leg, it will heal, and then I can say yoga did it.

That doesn't do justice to his statement. He claimed that he had a lifelong digestion condition since childhood, and this changed literally at the moment that his guru told him his thought is causing it, and that he gained 20kg in a month after.

Do you think he was self-deceived, lying, or telling the truth?

[Leo Gura]

@gengar

I would not trust such stories.

[Oppositionless]

Getting older and realizing most miracle stories probably aren't true was a big let down 

Like I thought I was gonna awaken and become a superhero after reading Yogananda's book when I was 16.

At least remote viewing is real  

Edited April 15 by Oppositionless

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, integral said:

@Leo Gura That RO machine is not remineralizing. You have to warn people and tell them they must remineralize their water.

Good point. I will.

[gengar]

24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@gengar

I would not trust such stories.

But what tells that about a person like Yogananda - if he is either lying or self-deceived, why trust his other work?

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, gengar said:

But what tells that about a person like Yogananda - if he is either lying or self-deceived, why trust his other work?

No one is asking you to trust his work.

You are focused on the wrong thing. Just practice Kriya yoga and forget about the stories.

Kriya yoga works. I am doing it every day.

Edited April 15 by Leo Gura

[gengar]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

No one is asking you to trust his work.

You're literally promoting his quotes and teachings. So your stance is now that people whose quotes and teachings you promote on your blog might be epistemic devils? That goes a 180 degrees against your pious claim of aiming to be the human most aligned and concerned with Truth.

[gengar]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Kriya yoga works. I am doing it every day.

What are the benefits, just baseline consciousness, or also less anxiety and clearer thinking and the like?

[Raze]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No one is asking you to trust his work.

You are focused on the wrong thing. Just practice Kriya yoga and forget about the stories.

Kriya yoga works. I am doing it every day.

Don’t you need a trained instructor to do kriya yoga properly

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, gengar said:

You're literally promoting his quotes and teachings. So your stance is now that people whose quotes and teachings you promote on your blog might be epistemic devils? That goes a 180 degrees against your pious claim of aiming to be the human most aligned and concerned with Truth.

I told you before, you need to be able to distinguish signal from noise. You are focused on the noise.

1 hour ago, Raze said:

Don’t you need a trained instructor to do kriya yoga properly

Not if you are intelligent.

[gengar]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I told you before, you need to be able to distinguish signal from noise. You are focused on the noise.

False claims about huge things like healing ailments are not noise, but signals that they are full of shit. Your epistemological standards are just not as strict as mine, and that's okay.

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, gengar said:

Your epistemological standards are just not as strict as mine

You are the one believing his stories.

When I share a source with you, that does not mean I endorse everything they say or that everything they say is true.

Edited April 16 by Leo Gura

[gengar]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You are the one believing his stories.

When I share a source with you, that does not mean I endorse everything they say or that everything they say is true.

I never said I believed his stories, I made an inquiry into your stance on them, since you shared him.

From your teachings, your stance about lying is not that you should just ignore the lie and look at whatever might be true from everything else that lying actor said, but that a lying actor is not to be trusted at all. - you said for example lying politicians should lose their job and it should be a punishable offense for them to lie.

Plus, it baffles me that people with genius quotes like Yogananda are still dishonest or self-deceived in claiming their ailments to be cured.

I guess there's no way around people's bullshit, they may share some gold and also lie, and you can't throw out the baby without the bathwater.

[Leo Gura]

@gengar I didn't say he was lying.

I've told you many times that no one is immune to self-deception and corruption. You will learn that lesson the hard way.

[gengar]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@gengar I didn't say he was lying.

I've told you many times that no one is immune to self-deception and corruption. You will learn that lesson the hard way.

Okay. Seems sloppy epistemology to assume that someone who claims to have cured a chronic lifelong ailment in one sitting due to his guru is merely self-deceived and not lying, since the claim is so outrageous. But who knows.

[LifeEnjoyer]

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