Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[gengar]

24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@gengar

I would not trust such stories.

But what tells that about a person like Yogananda - if he is either lying or self-deceived, why trust his other work?

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, gengar said:

But what tells that about a person like Yogananda - if he is either lying or self-deceived, why trust his other work?

No one is asking you to trust his work.

You are focused on the wrong thing. Just practice Kriya yoga and forget about the stories.

Kriya yoga works. I am doing it every day.

Edited yesterday at 10:21 PM by Leo Gura

[gengar]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

No one is asking you to trust his work.

You're literally promoting his quotes and teachings. So your stance is now that people whose quotes and teachings you promote on your blog might be epistemic devils? That goes a 180 degrees against your pious claim of aiming to be the human most aligned and concerned with Truth.

[gengar]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Kriya yoga works. I am doing it every day.

What are the benefits, just baseline consciousness, or also less anxiety and clearer thinking and the like?

[Raze]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No one is asking you to trust his work.

You are focused on the wrong thing. Just practice Kriya yoga and forget about the stories.

Kriya yoga works. I am doing it every day.

Don’t you need a trained instructor to do kriya yoga properly

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, gengar said:

You're literally promoting his quotes and teachings. So your stance is now that people whose quotes and teachings you promote on your blog might be epistemic devils? That goes a 180 degrees against your pious claim of aiming to be the human most aligned and concerned with Truth.

I told you before, you need to be able to distinguish signal from noise. You are focused on the noise.

1 hour ago, Raze said:

Don’t you need a trained instructor to do kriya yoga properly

Not if you are intelligent.

[gengar]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I told you before, you need to be able to distinguish signal from noise. You are focused on the noise.

False claims about huge things like healing ailments are not noise, but signals that they are full of shit. Your epistemological standards are just not as strict as mine, and that's okay.

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, gengar said:

Your epistemological standards are just not as strict as mine

You are the one believing his stories.

When I share a source with you, that does not mean I endorse everything they say or that everything they say is true.

Edited 22 hours ago by Leo Gura

[gengar]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You are the one believing his stories.

When I share a source with you, that does not mean I endorse everything they say or that everything they say is true.

I never said I believed his stories, I made an inquiry into your stance on them, since you shared him.

From your teachings, your stance about lying is not that you should just ignore the lie and look at whatever might be true from everything else that lying actor said, but that a lying actor is not to be trusted at all. - you said for example lying politicians should lose their job and it should be a punishable offense for them to lie.

Plus, it baffles me that people with genius quotes like Yogananda are still dishonest or self-deceived in claiming their ailments to be cured.

I guess there's no way around people's bullshit, they may share some gold and also lie, and you can't throw out the baby without the bathwater.

[Leo Gura]

@gengar I didn't say he was lying.

I've told you many times that no one is immune to self-deception and corruption. You will learn that lesson the hard way.

[gengar]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@gengar I didn't say he was lying.

I've told you many times that no one is immune to self-deception and corruption. You will learn that lesson the hard way.

Okay. Seems sloppy epistemology to assume that someone who claims to have cured a chronic lifelong ailment in one sitting due to his guru is merely self-deceived and not lying, since the claim is so outrageous. But who knows.

[LifeEnjoyer]

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[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, gengar said:

Okay. Seems sloppy epistemology to assume that someone who claims to have cured a chronic lifelong ailment in one sitting due to his guru is merely self-deceived and not lying, since the claim is so outrageous. But who knows.

I didn't say his story is false. I said it is not a scientifically valid claim and worth doubting.

We don't really know what caused his health to improve. You are jumping to conclusions about him lying. These issues are not as black and white as you want them to be.

Edited 19 hours ago by Leo Gura

[gengar]

55 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't say his story is false. I said it is not a scientifically valid claim and worth doubting.

We don't really know what caused his health to improve. You are jumping to conclusions about him lying. These issues are not as black and white as you want them to be.

Fair.

[Davino]

@gengar Only God surpasses all standards, any finite thing will be a limited part playing in the overall perfection of God, every figment of Reality fits in each other like a tesselation, what one lacks the other is abundant in, you cannot ask a part what only Infinity can give.

[Miguel1]

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[Human Mint]

On 4/15/2026 at 6:19 AM, AerisVahnEphelia said:

I’ve always said that 25 is the threshold age. I’ve debated it with a lot of people, and over time it just keeps feeling accurate.

I started experimenting at 24 and had my first real LSD experience at 25. Even with a lot of prior contemplation, it was still difficult to integrate. And no, I don’t think anyone younger than that can truly integrate those experiences in a meaningful way.

I keep seeing the same pattern. I’ve never seen anyone under 25 who can take those states and actually weave them into their daily life in a stable, growth-oriented way.

Yeah, that sorta go with the moment the brain reaches peak development. Before then you only chase shiny objects.

[Leo Gura]

46 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Michael (American)

Miguel (Spanish)

Mikael (Finnish)

You can name your kid Miguel1son.

[Miguel1]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

You can name your kid Miguel1son.

Miguel1God

[Rafael Thundercat]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You can name your kid Miguel1son.

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