Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[UnbornTao]

Now that we are on the subject of music I have a pretext to shoehorn this into a thread:

 

[Osaid]

1 minute ago, Miguel1 said:

Yep, I’ve said this before but musical taste is one of those things that is deeply personal.

Many things are, and yet people don't realize it. So they "self-report" or lay it out in the open without realizing it all the time. "How did you know that about me??" 

[integral]

29 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Interesting perspective. Or moods?

I literally have like 5-10 different ”frames” I juggle between:

- Majestic

- Pain, heartbreak

- Anger / Aggression

- Hip Hop beats that I like to kill with my dance

- Bittersweet

- Fun (mostly fun EDM, club and pop music)

- Sexy / Love Making

- Chill

- Contemplative

- Uplifting, Upbeat

And more

There is also a genre called Majestic Casual. It’s very beautiful:

https://on.soundcloud.com/gg3k0DJVdesMJbeFth

I think it makes sense for contemplation work that something that doesn't trigger too many emotional swings would be better suited.

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Brian Eno understood this: he designed ambient music explicitly to be "as ignorable as it is interesting." The key quality is that it doesn't grab your attention and pull it somewhere. The music that tends to be worst for any contemplation is music that keeps hijacking your attention

I think different frames help contemplate different things.

I noticed some video game high energy music makes it easier to contemplate some types of ideas but not good for others. Unclear. 

[integral]

5 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Now that we are on the subject of music I have a pretext to shoehorn this into a thread:

 

Im imagining first kicking someone off a mountain. KONKering.

For some reason, this invokes imagining speed and intelligent body motion. Like I'm in a battle dodging attacks like a God.  

[Miguel1]

3 minutes ago, integral said:

I think it makes sense for contemplation work that something that doesn't trigger too many emotional swings would be better suited.

Correct. Highly emotional music is not good for contemplation.

I do those music more for my own emotional release, healing, and to make art, and to touch normies on a deep emotional level.

[Leo Gura]

Please start a new thread for discussing musical taste and styles.

Edited Thursday at 09:23 PM by Leo Gura

[Miguel1]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Please start a new thread for discussing musical taste and styles.

Yes, I was gonna say. It is derailing too deep into that here.

I feel like we are all waiting for someone who has contemplated the subject deeply to take charge and start it. There’s been many in-depth sub-convos about it but not one fully dedicated to it yet.

But yes, enough about it here.

[integral]

I was waiting for Leo to bestow upon us the most conscious answer. 

Edited Thursday at 09:32 PM by integral

[Miguel1]

12 minutes ago, integral said:

I was waiting for Leo to bestow upon us the most conscious answer. 

Such anti climax indeed.

Then again, he told us to fuck off earlier for shitting on (read: discuss apppropiately) his music taste, so you can only blame yourself for such expectations 

Edited Thursday at 09:44 PM by Miguel1

[Leo Gura]

You can jerk each other off about how deep y'all are and have your climax in a new thread.

Edited Thursday at 09:49 PM by Leo Gura

[Miguel1]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You can jerk each other off about how deep y'all are and have your climax in a new thread.

Your jealousy Shines Bright Like A Diamond 

[Miguel1]

Good night peepz! At the end of the day, I love ya’ll and have great gratitude for you, whether its the big daddy or you smaller fries 

[integral]

28 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You can jerk each other off about how deep y'all are and have your climax in a new thread.

The most conscious answer has arrived 😂. We be playing monkey games.

20 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Good night peepz! At the end of the day, I love ya’ll and have great gratitude for you, whether its the big daddy or you smaller fries 

Cheers!

Edited Thursday at 10:17 PM by integral

[Leo Gura]

New music thread here:

 

[TheEnigma]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

You can jerk each other off about how deep y'all are and have your climax in a new thread.

In this entire world, there's apx 8.2 billion people. Of all of them, how many people will be truly in stage green or above, if you can make guess? Because I remember you saying the most liberal parts of the world, even in the most developed countries, only maybe 10 percent or less of the people have truly realized stage green. So adding those and in the entire rest of the world, how many of the entire 8.2 billion people would be in stage green or above?

Edited Thursday at 10:54 PM by TheEnigma

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, TheEnigma said:

In this entire world, there's apx 8.2 billion people. Of all of them, how many people will be truly in stage green or above, if you can make guess? Because I remember you saying the most liberal parts of the world, even in the most developed countries, only maybe 10 percent or less of the people have truly realized stage green. So adding those and in the entire rest of the world, how many of the entire 8.2 billion people would be in stage green or above?

Yeah, it's few. Less than 10% globally.

Mild Green is pretty common but solid deep Green is much rarer.

Much of that mild Green is just cultural conformity.

Edited Thursday at 10:59 PM by Leo Gura

[gettoefl]

In the consciousness realm, God doesn't love God allows. Love is beyond consciousness. Peace is the highest state of consciousness. God allows two things in fact - peace and non-peace. Abide in peace and you can transcend consciousness and get to love. Rape children and choose to forsake peace and enjoy hell. Alas for a human to choose peace, he has to know hell. Hell can be all manner of sickness. Everyone needs to be sick else you won't be here. God is cool with whatever sickness befalls you. It can't be helped! Sickness is the price of holiness is the path back to love. God says the good times are more than worth the bad times so carry on wayward souls.

 

[Butters]

I watched this but I honestly have no idea what I just watched. Is this how you picture the actualized.org meetup Leo? 

[Anton Rogachevski]

@Leo Gura

I'm afraid what you are offering in the blog, to "transcend humanity" and to become "post human" or God would be theoretically impossible as you are currently in a human vassel, yes you are God, but forever limited by your humanness by the inherent limits of this avatar. That's the story of Lucifer basically, but he wanted the other way around, he was Pure Godness, but wanted to be human, so became corrupted and limited.

A plant can't decide to transcend itself and become a conscious animal. The very idea of transcendence is quite sketchy in my eyes, but sure you are welcome to try and show us. I think it might be psychologically dangerous, so I must warn you, but sure go ahead dude.

You can purify this vessel to a point, and be sage like, but that's the max.

Edited 5 hours ago by Anton Rogachevski

[Yeah Yeah]

Hey @Leo — I also read your response to my previous question, so I’m building on that here.

If you have time to respond, I’d be interested to hear how you’d address this more precisely, or if there are aspects I’m still missing.

If not, I’ll continue exploring this and may return with further questions as I refine it.

I’m trying to understand the “only here and now / no past / you are imagining everything” idea more precisely, because when I follow it through, it seems to split in two directions.

On one side, it clearly points to something real:

Everything I experience only ever appears now. Even things like memory, history, or other people’s experiences (for example NDE reports, past lives, or historical figures like Cleopatra) only ever show up as appearances in present awareness.

The same applies to things we assume are fixed. If I read Shakespeare or listen to a piece of music at different stages of my life, it doesn’t feel identical — the meaning, tone, and emotional impact all shift depending on my current state. In that sense, experience feels fluid, constructed, and not fully grounded in something fixed “out there.”

But on the other side, there’s a contradiction.

If everything — including my past, identity, and body — is being imagined here and now, then it seems like that imagination should be reconfigurable, at least in a meaningful way.

Yet my experience feels constrained. There’s continuity, causality, and accumulated effects. Patterns, habits, and physical states persist in ways that I can’t simply “re-imagine” out of existence. Reality doesn’t behave like a lucid dream — it feels structured and resistant.

So the question is:

If all of this is being imagined now, why does that imagination appear both fluid (in perception, interpretation, meaning) and yet rigid (in structure, consequences, and identity)?

Is “no past” only meant in the sense that everything is accessed in the present, rather than implying that the past and its effects can actually be altered?

And if imagination is happening at some deeper, unconscious level — what determines it, and why does it produce a reality that feels constrained rather than freely reconfigurable?

I’m not rejecting the idea — I’m trying to understand where its limits are in direct experience.