Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Natasha Tori Maru]

10 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Describe a masculine physique. Describe feminine.

You're the one arguing the case - it's on you.

[Elliott]

 

Glitches in the matrix 🤡 

 

abcnews.com

https://abcnews.com

No fluke: Maine girl beats boys to win 2nd straight state wrestling title

Feb 22, 2024 — Maddie Ripley won a Maine state wrestling title, defeating three boys in a single day

 

Someone call the physiologists!!!

 

 

 

Edited March 22 by Elliott

[Raze]

40 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Here she is beating one

 

 

How could she possibly beat a #200 if she never plays 1. Top ten men play #200s thousands of times before they beat one, she never gets the practice.

That's like saying some person that only ever played tennis by themselves is physiologically inferior to Raphael Nadal, because the guy couldn't beat a #200.

Serena and her sister did a match with the male 203, and he still easily beat them. 

Edited March 22 by Raze

[Elliott]

3 minutes ago, Raze said:

Serena and her sister did a match with the male 203 while he was drinking, and he still easily beat them. 

Yes, my premise is that they never play men, they play frail little women their entire career, while those men have played with the best. Serena didn't get the 10,000 matches against top 400 players those guys did, she played with what were effectively tennis retards her whole life. Nadal did not become the best without first practicing 10,000 times with top 400 men, if Nadal only played in women's and dominated like Serena, he wouldn't be good against men.

Edited March 22 by Elliott

[Raze]

1 minute ago, Elliott said:

Yes, my premise is that they never play men, they play frail little women their entire career, while those men have played with the best. Serena didn't get the 10,000 matches against top 400 players those guys did, she played with what were effectively tennis retards her whole life.

They used to practice with men and were told to stop to do better actually

https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/venus-serena-williams-stop-practicing-men-when-andre-agassi-s-father-mike-gave-strongly-worded-advice-sisters-dad-richard

[Elliott]

14 hours ago, Raze said:

They used to practice with men and were told to stop to do better actually

https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/venus-serena-williams-stop-practicing-men-when-andre-agassi-s-father-mike-gave-strongly-worded-advice-sisters-dad-richard

Read the article, it was about psychology and game strategy

" talking with Serena's father and I said: "the reason your daughters are losing is because they are practicing with men." With the men, they hit the big shot that would be the winner against the women, but the men return it," he said"

"The Russian girls compete against each other and you see Russian girls win three of the four Grand Slams this year. They are absolutely not half of the talent of Serena Williams and Venus Williams. Serena Williams and Venus Williams don't have their confidence on their shots anymore," he said."

 

The reason they were so good in womens, was BECAUSE they played with some men early on

Edited March 22 by Elliott

[Elliott]

Even if you want to stand by a physiological, genetics idea, it's still ultimately stupid since humans evolve.

Society does not value athleticism in women the way we do in men. This essentially not only stears women away from serious competing, which narrows the competing female pool( the best women physiologically may not even be competing), it also literally breeds women to be less athletic or men more athletic.

The only valid argument for XX and XY sports is " that's the way I want it to be" which, is valid, but there's no sound objective reasoning behind it, you just want to manipulate the culture.

Edited March 22 by Elliott

[Raze]

15 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Even if you want to stand by a physiological, genetics idea, it's still ultimately stupid since humans evolve.

Society does not value athleticism in women the way we do in men. This essentially not only steers women away from serious competing, which narrows the competing female pool( the best women physiologically may not even be competing), it also literally breeds women to be less athletic or men more athletic.

The only valid argument for XX and XY sports is " that's the way I want it to be" which, is valid, but there's no sound objective reasoning behind it, you just want to manipulate the culture.

No, biologically men have many advantages ranging from bone density to ability to track movement with eye site among other hormonal advantages for physical activities and greater upper body strength. Even if a woman competed with men she would still be at a major disadvantage against men. Female athletes often do train with men, it doesn’t make them capable of competing with men.

Edited March 22 by Raze

[Elliott]

10 minutes ago, Raze said:

No, biologically men have many advantages ranging from bone density to ability to track movement with eye site among other hormonal advantages for physical activities and greater upper body strength. Even if a woman competed with men she would still be at a major disadvantage against men. Female athletes often do train with men, it doesn’t make them capable of competing with men.

Your points are perhaps about my previous comment. The one you responded to is about human evolution.

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humans evolve.

Society does not value athleticism in women the way we do in men. This essentially not only stears women away from serious competing, which narrows the competing female pool( the best women physiologically may not even be competing), it also literally breeds women to be less athletic or men more athletic."

 

Bone density and eye tracking is evolutionary.

Just like dogs are breed to hunt, we breed people for different traits, including by gender. Whatever society values in each gender is bred more.

Edited March 22 by Elliott

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

it also literally breeds women to be less athletic or men more athletic."

You are proving my point of how this gender activism has lost touch with reality.

You want a certain outcome so bad that you forgot to check if your feet are planted on the ground.

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

You are proving my point of how this gender activism has lost touch with reality.

You want a certain outcome so bad that you forgot to check if your feet are planted on the ground.

Still haven't answered the simple question, now you're on to some nebulous grasping.

[Elliott]

Should the NBA ban black people back to the negro leagues, since they're genetically and physiologically obviously superior?

 

Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org

Race and ethnicity in the NBA

The NBA in 2023 was composed of 70.4 percent black players, 17.5 percent white players, 2.2 percent Latino players of any race, and 0.2 percent Asian players

[Hardkill]

16 hours ago, Elliott said:

So Serena Williams should play in mens? She's bigger than every single male tennis player.

 

16 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You make a point in my favor. Serena Williams said that she cannot win a single game against a 200th rank male tennis player. She is thicc, but she can't compete with a man.

Just cause a girl is thicc don't make her a man.

 

16 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I am not talking about skill at all. It's purely about male vs female physiology.

 

Serena may be physically the most muscular female tennis player in history, but like Leo said, and even she herself said she’s still not a man.

Men have many times the level of testosterone that women have, except compared to a very small percentage of women who take some kind of heavy doses of anabolic steroids like those extremely competitive female bodybuilders or female strength/power type athletes. 

Moreover, there are other reasons as to why not even an elite pro female bodybuilder, an elite pro female strength/power athlete, even an elite pro speed female elite, or even an elite pro endurance athlete can ever get nearly as muscular, nearly as strong/powerful, nearly as fast, or have nearly as much stamina as those of their respective elite pro male athlete counterparts, no matter what kind of PEDs she takes, no matter how much of those PEDs she takes, no matter how genetically gifted she is, no matter how great her diet regiment is, no matter how great her training regimen is, no matter how well she recovers from her training regimen, and no matter how hard she works.

Men generally start from, and continue to maintain, a higher baseline and higher ceiling. Even when training adaptations are similar in relative terms, males generally have more total muscle mass and larger body dimensions to begin with, so equal percentage gains still leave them with higher absolute strength and size. And why is that? It's because adolescent boys go through puberty later and for a longer period of time than adolescent girls do, which means that boys/men have a longer/later growth spurt than girls/women do. Therefore, male puberty brings much higher testosterone exposure and growth hormone exposure, which produces lasting differences in size, muscle, strength, power, and oxygen-carrying capacity.

Moreover, some experts say that androgen-receptor differences between males and females contribute, which is why boys/men respond more positively to androgens, including testosterone, better than girls/women do. 

This is why not even most genetically gifted female bodybuilders or most genetically gifted female athletes in the world will have nearly as many androgen receptors as men do, particularly compared to the most genetically gifted male bodybuilders and most genetically gifted male athletes in the world. 

Again, the reality is that late-teen boys and adult men generally have a large physical advantage over late-teen girls and adult women in many sports because male puberty occurs later and with a longer/later growth spurt, but above all because male puberty brings much higher testosterone exposure, which produces lasting differences in size, muscle, strength, power, and oxygen-carrying capacity.

Edited March 22 by Hardkill

[Elliott]

17 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

herself said she’s still not a man.

Oh, shit, well that settles it. Fuck science, she said she's not a man!

 

ABC7 Los Angeles

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No fluke: Maine girl beats boys to win 2nd straight state wrestling title

Feb 22, 2024 — 17-year-old Maddie Ripley defended her crown over the weekend when she defeated three boys in one day. She's won back-to-back high school 

 

 

 

 

Longest Unassisted Ocean Swim: Chloe McCardel (Australia) swam 124.4 km (77.3 miles) in 41 hours and 21 minutes.

Longest Unassisted Lake Swim: Sarah Thomas (USA) completed a 168.3 km (104.6 miles) swim in Lake Champlain in 67 hours and 16 minutes.

 

Courtney Dauwalter winning the 2017 Moab 238 outright, and Jasmin Paris winning the 2019 Spine Race, often beating male competitors by hours. Big Dog's Backyard Ultra (e.g., Maggie Guterl in 2019). 2019, Jasmin Paris set an outright course record for the 268-mile Montane Spine Race, breaking the previous record by 12 hours.

Edited March 22 by Elliott

[Hardkill]

33 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Oh, shit, well that settles it. Fuck science, she said she's not a man!

 

ABC7 Los Angeles

https://abc7.com

No fluke: Maine girl beats boys to win 2nd straight state wrestling title

Feb 22, 2024 — 17-year-old Maddie Ripley defended her crown over the weekend when she defeated three boys in one day. She's won back-to-back high school 

 

 

 

 

Longest Unassisted Ocean Swim: Chloe McCardel (Australia) swam 124.4 km (77.3 miles) in 41 hours and 21 minutes.

Longest Unassisted Lake Swim: Sarah Thomas (USA) completed a 168.3 km (104.6 miles) swim in Lake Champlain in 67 hours and 16 minutes.

 

Courtney Dauwalter winning the 2017 Moab 238 outright, and Jasmin Paris winning the 2019 Spine Race, often beating male competitors by hours. Big Dog's Backyard Ultra (e.g., Maggie Guterl in 2019). 2019, Jasmin Paris set an outright course record for the 268-mile Montane Spine Race, breaking the previous record by 12 hours.

I don’t think that any of those boys and girls represent the full potential of an elite male athlete vs. an elite female athlete.

look at the top men in the world vs. the top women in the world

[Raze]

58 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Your points are perhaps about my previous comment. The one you responded to is about human evolution.

"

humans evolve.

Society does not value athleticism in women the way we do in men. This essentially not only stears women away from serious competing, which narrows the competing female pool( the best women physiologically may not even be competing), it also literally breeds women to be less athletic or men more athletic."

 

Bone density and eye tracking is evolutionary.

Just like dogs are breed to hunt, we breed people for different traits, including by gender. Whatever society values in each gender is bred more.

That happens over the course of thousands of years, professional sports is a recent phenomenon

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You are proving my point of how this gender activism has lost touch with reality.

You want a certain outcome so bad that you forgot to check if your feet are planted on the ground.

He's just not good enough at frame controlling male athletes 

[Magnanimous]

Hey Leo I gotta be honest, I've been eating within 3-4 hours of my nighttime kriya routine sometimes.

I don't do bandhas or maha mudra so the yoga doesn't make my stomach uncomfortable. But there's gotta be something wrong with what I'm doing, right?

What is it? I don't wanna blindly accept not eating for 3-4 hours before my routine.

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

Hey Leo I gotta be honest, I've been eating within 3-4 hours of my nighttime kriya routine sometimes.

I don't do bandhas or maha mudra so the yoga doesn't make my stomach uncomfortable. But there's gotta be something wrong with what I'm doing, right?

What is it? I don't wanna blindly accept not eating for 3-4 hours before my routine.

I do not observe any eating rules. I do pranayama any time I feel.

Waiting 3hrs after meals is very excessive.

Edited March 22 by Leo Gura

[Talinn]

I don't know, what I remember about my last major sports competition was getting my times in Cross Country beat by XX chromosome people since my testosterone levels were 3 ng/dl at age 17 / 17.5 . The only reason I found out I had Kallmann Syndrome was after passing out in a race, but maybe I should have tried harder instead of trying to cheat in the future.....