Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

@Leo Gura

How to Solve this problem Once and for All?

What problem?

[No1Here2c]

The solution is upon us to a problem that never was.

[No1Here2c]

I'd like to ask:

So where do we go from here?

But where is there to go?

And what here do I speak of?

Edited 7 hours ago by No1Here2c

[Leo Gura]

@No1Here2c You speak gibberish so there is nothing more to say.

[Julian gabriel]

PERFECT

[VioletFlame]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The first answer now on Google is AI, and people read it and believe it.

Zero epistemic process there.

@Leo Gura That's the problem. People search for a quick and dirty, promptly answer now, then blindly accept it as truth, without thinking for themselves. We search for an "answer", but fail to search for the true meaning. And the craziest thing is.. Google AI isn't even always accurate, it makes errors all the time, and AI itself can be biased! It accumulates data from peoples' opinions on the internet, not just "facts", but can be disguised as "facts". It is rather deceiving and misleading. Remember there was a time we'd actually have to do some research on the internet to find the answer we were looking for? We'd have to dig through various articles, forums, and sites to actually thoroughly learn something? Lol. I still favor this method, because I believe it's the most effective. However, research to most people now is an inconvenience. If we can obtain the "answer" instantaneously in a matter of seconds, why would most people bother to "go the extra mile" and dive deeper into the meaning of a thing? It's like it feeds on our obsession with convenience & taking the easy route. 

Edited 5 hours ago by VioletFlame

[VioletFlame]

I've tested its accuracy before and I believe Google AI actually said that the relative minor of the key G major is A minor once and I was so appalled, but also found it kind of amusing, lol. The relative minor of G major is E minor. I literally outsmarted AI. Haha.

But like my point is, for someone who didn't already have that knowledge, and was genuinely trying to learn say a relative minor to a key signature, for example, searches it on Google, and the first answer that pops up is blatantly false, then that's concerning. It's literally spreading misinformation and dumbing us down, in these instances.

[TheEnigma]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Animals are survival machines. They don't know anything about truth. No other possibility exists for them. But you are not an animal.

Yes, all finite beings are limited. A finite being cannot be perfectly God-like. But also that is not needed. The point is that humans can become more God-like through truth-seeking.

Some degree of hypocrisy is acceptable in mortals.

Truth IS the main issue. You're still not understanding how deep the connection between Truth and Good goes. Contemplate the connection deeper.

Good is not a social structure. Good is Truth itself.

So how can psychedellics just make you into a being that's the next level of consciousness than a human? Because for a dog to have the consciousness of a healthy adult human, it would take many years to train it, even if it had the potential. So how can a human being just take psychedellics and expect themselves to be the level next of a being just for a few hours? for a dog to become the level of consciosuness of a human, it has to train to read, write, speak, understand logic, math science etc... so I just don't see how taking psychedellics can create such a short cut. Cause if a dog or chimpanzee took psychedellics it still has to learn how to be an adult human and what an adult human does, it will just be given the mind, but an adult human understands things because we also have life experience. A person can't just take psychedellics and expect for themselves to understand what it's like at the next level in just a few hours, because that next level has years of being that self, therefore has the experience that a human can't just understand in hours, similar to how a dog can't just take psychedellics and become like a human, nor understand what we understand. How would you explain this Leo?

[UnbornTao]

Humans are primates. I've never understood this natural arrogance that leads us to claim we are not animals, or that we are somehow outside that category.

Edited 2 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

16 minutes ago, TheEnigma said:

So how can a human being just take psychedellics and expect themselves to be the level next of a being just for a few hours?

You can be it for a few hours, but you can't sustain that level of consciousness.

How? Because it increases consciousness.

[Stick]

What if I keep taking psychedelic every few hours.

So wake up, take psychedelic and after the effects wear down take it again.
Keep taking it at intervals until night time and then sleep.
Repeat
Will that make me super enlightened? 
If not what will make me enlightened?

Edited 2 hours ago by Stick

[UnbornTao]

8 minutes ago, Stick said:

What if I keep taking psychedelic every few hours.

So wake up, take psychedelic and after the effects wear down take it again.
Keep taking it at intervals until night time and then sleep.
Repeat
Will that make me super enlightened? 
If not what will make me enlightened?

That's the bitch of it. No. You. 

Edited 2 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Stick]

If I don't get enlightened what is the point of listening to actualized.org. 
Isn't this just a mind masturbation for a non enlightened person.

[UnbornTao]

25 minutes ago, Stick said:

If I don't get enlightened what is the point of listening to actualized.org. 
Isn't this just a mind masturbation for a non enlightened person.

You need basic work and to drop assumptions. But "awakening" is not the only focus. Also, there aren't many enlightened people to begin with at all. Maybe Leo, just maybe. 

You can always question. That's essentially the practice. Ask: "Who am I?" Be open and do that until you get it. 

Edited 1 hour ago by UnbornTao

[Lyubov]

Wouldn’t it be untruthful to expect yourself to sustain any degree of consciousness if you simply can’t? What I mean is say you are focusing on spirituality. And before we even start discussing this you believe there is some ideal or perfection when it comes to this topic “I must be this conscious.” Where there is you now on this side who isn’t as conscious as you think you should be vs the other side where you are as conscious as you think you should be. To me that seems like a trap in and of itself. A move towards expanded consciousness comes about from truth itself not from seeking perfection, achievement or accomplishment. 

[bazera]

56 minutes ago, Stick said:

If I don't get enlightened what is the point of listening to actualized.org. 
Isn't this just a mind masturbation for a non enlightened person.

How can you expect to get "enlightened" from listening to videos?

You really don't see the value in these teachings?

[LoneWonderer]

@Leo GuraHello Leo, in regards to your post on sex trafficking and Epstein, have you read and would you recommend the book mentioned in the podcast:

Nobody's Girl by virginia Giuffre

Thank you