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[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, The Crocodile said:

What if something is false but Beautiful?

But even false things are true (have being).

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Is it fine to disregard truth if the truth ends up being inferior, to allowing falsehood?

Depends on what you mean by falsehood and truth. But disregarding truth is not going to turn out well for you in the end.

Edited Thursday at 12:55 AM by Leo Gura

[gengar]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I am happy to be wrong on that point. If you are serious, go ahead and do the research.

It is not hard to type in: "ESP research studies" into Google or ChatGPT.

Thank you.

My question was more an epistemic one on how to know what is verified; how do you, Leo, actually know which online studies are authentic? how do we actually go about verifying sources like this for ourselves? How do we know if the studies are even real?

We often overlook this process that seems to be obvious, but just like you asked "How do you know the holocaust happened" in the "How to know what is true" video, the answer is less obvious than it seems.

I'm interested in formalizing how epistemic stuff like this works. Often when I'm reading an ancient book for example, let's say by Plato, sometimes I wonder, "How do I actually know a person called Plato actually existed and wrote this very book and it wasn't altered?"

It seems that multiple chains of narration/transmission are always necessary for historical stuff like this to be verified.

I'm interested in finding out more about the logic/formal process of epistemology and history. If I find some sources I will share them here.

[Leo Gura]

49 minutes ago, gengar said:

how do you, Leo, actually know which online studies are authentic?

I don't know. I'm making an intuitive guess based on my understanding of Consciousness.

If remote viewing was entirely fake there wouldn't be so many people reporting about it. That's my guess. Same thing with UFOs. There's just way too much smoke for there to be no fire. But it's possible it's an elaborate illusion, I can't rule that out.

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I'm interested in finding out more about the logic/formal process of epistemology and history.

History is basically hearsay unless you have some hard artifact of it. But even if you have a hard artifact there's no guarantee it means what you think it means.

Basically, my solution to history is to not take any history too seriously. It's mostly entertaining stories. I wouldn't hinge my worldview on any of them.

Edited Thursday at 12:56 AM by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I very much enjoyed the most recent blog post.

I am sure some users have encountered me banging on about using sound to alter my state.

I find similar effects with something as simple as a hot shower, ice bath. All will alter my inner state, which flows to the mind and consciousness.

Light has this effect on me also. Running, exercise.

3 addition points I have come to realise & explore:

• 1) My own degree of sensitivity appears to be a integral part of my ability to reach a state of consciousness, and the ease at which I can do this. Genetics as Leo likes to yell at me, through ones and zeros.
• 2) Experience is the top asset to recognising a state, and sensitivity to material data input from senses acts as feedback and confirmation I am embodying a certain state. Replicating the 'sensation' data input to my body brings back a previous state. This cannot be done without first meditating and clearing my body of emotion and sensation - emptying - to let the state arise. When I fail to reach a state I aimed for, it is because of some emotionality present I cannot detect, fucking with the process.
• 3) Everything I have experimented with regarding states of consciousness has confirmed my beliefs are a result of my state of consciousness. Alter the state, the belief changes. I have had this reaffirmed over and over. This goes into how my beliefs shape my reality. Consciousness requires the body, to feed off the experience. Harvest the sense data generated through distinction. This alters state, further grows consciousness. 

I also often bang on about living a super clean life so you can recognise and reach these states with ease. Clean food, clean water, no chronic drugs, fresh air - from forests. Clean thoughts. Earnest living.

My compassion goes out to those with chronic health issues, as this is like an immovable object meets an unstoppable force. Everything is so much harder, raking sand...

Edited Thursday at 01:45 AM by Natasha Tori Maru

[Natasha Tori Maru]

You can go into it further and clearly see many addictions are just beings attempting to desperately change their state of consciousness.

Food, drugs, alcohol.. etc 

[The Crocodile]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

But even false things are true (have being).

Depends on what you mean by falsehood and truth. But disregarding truth is not going to turn out well for you in the end.

I'm not speaking very pragmatically yet. You must imagine a physical object that is very beautiful in consciousness and significant to you (let's say infinite in size) but disconnected from God. You might have something else that is more conscious in some other dimension toward God or toard factual reality, but less significant and less precious and less beautiful to you personally.

And try to apply this life as a principle.

[Letho]

Concerning "Wrong State", May 7th.

Stated as feedback, rather than a groopie worship doll.

I'm the Godhead, but your reasoning comes across as extremely deceptive,

Paragraph 1: Any delusional or on the other side of the spectrum, extremely manipulative, can make the same case.

Conclusion 1: This is a rookie way of prosletising. 

Practical 1: Once they learn about the health issues you've had with drugs,  it automatically reinforces paragraph 1. You should be aiming for balanced humanism, not dogmatism.

Paragraph 2: Given your lack of prudence on paragraph 1, you shot yourself in the foot. Making conclusion 2 and and practical 2 are redundant to fill the gaps on.


Paragraph 3: Your lack of disclosure regarding your health issues undermine your integrity here. If you try to defend against my statements here without humility or correction in future posts, it only furthers my feedback on the negative curve of either side regarding paragraph 1, making me question your integrity further behind your purpose as a person that wishes to be a "teacher" or some variant therein.

To the contrary, "The #1 mistake of all human intellectual activity is to overlook the primacy of state in understanding.", excellent understanding,  however your build up to this statement is not built upon rational integrity as already noted.

However, "This is the #1 most important thing nondualists and spiritual gurus do not tell you.", I have never encountered a non-dual teacher that has stated this, of which I've met many now, where said mentor has said anything aligned with this understanding, in fact, the exact opposite, and that's because they HAVE been on many meditation retreats themselves. If you are true to your intentions, I imagine it wouldn't be hard to provide a list of names therein? This seems like a pull and 'grab the reader' rather than an honest disclosure regarding "how it really is."

Integrity, and awareness, has not been your strong suit, however I'm along for the ride to see how you progress. You undermine your own integrity by trying to seduce the ignorant, which you've stated in the past you try to do because you lead with the intention that you, and I paraphrase, "Assume your viewers are stupid". The only one stupid, is the one not correcting that for at least a decade now in light of everything that has happened since. Something that also, impacts the memes and the subsequent unhealthy culture that is born in this forum based on, either delusion to manipulation or some variation in the balance of humanistic authenticity (but you're an alien now as you've stated genuinely trying to convince others and for what undermining purposes? Not sure what's true anymore).

You'll have my respect, not to mention many others with great social influence, when you stay, consistently, in the middle of the road. You've been childish, and that'll continue to keep things, including the forum, at a toddler threshold the more you lack growth and stagnate as you have. You've to the contrary, tried to change your state the easy way, through psychedelics, rather than truly difficult challenges. Undermining your entire post.

I'm now moving on from the forum, mostly.

Best wishes.
 

[Norbert Somogyi]

Nice to see Hungary finding a place on your blog. That girl was stunning in her performance! I imagine it must be quite painful to have the silk wrapped around and drop around so frequently, yet she did it with seemingly little to no exhaustion. Simply incredible. The lack of a safe falling place was appalling, though.

[Leo Gura]

36 minutes ago, Norbert Somogyi said:

Nice to see Hungary

I didn't even know it was Hungary, hehe.

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't even know it was Hungary, hehe.

That's mine. I patented that. 

[Norbert Somogyi]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't even know it was Hungary, hehe.

That's hilarious haha! I got surprised at the hungarian title, thought youtube automatically translated it for me. Now I wonder if it auto-translates to English for you.

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Norbert Somogyi said:

That's hilarious haha! I got surprised at the hungarian title, thought youtube automatically translated it for me. Now I wonder if it auto-translates to English for you.

How the hell am I supposed to know what Hungarian looks like?

[Norbert Somogyi]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

How the hell am I supposed to know what Hungarian looks like?

Yeah, good point. There goes my bias 

[Yimpa]

48 minutes ago, Norbert Somogyi said:

I got surprised at the hungarian title

im surprised  because she’s hung on the silk like marshmallows floating on top of a hot cocoa with cinnamon spice sprinkled on top

and whipped cream. So smooth.

mmmm… yeah 

Edited Thursday at 07:59 AM by Yimpa

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, reading your latest blog post, I sense that you are saying that to be human is corruption itself.

[Daniel Balan]

@Leo Gura When you say after I die I will be washed of all corruption and then I will be reborn as a new child... Is it mandatory that god will send me back as a human child on earth? I mean wouldn't this be a waste to send me here again as a human baby? If I were god I would send me on an entirely different planet as a bird or as a worm or an entirely different species than human. What do you think? I believe god has no special place in his godly heart for humans, and the fact that I was born a human was a random arbitrary thing!

[Jannes]

3 hours ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, reading your latest blog post, I sense that you are saying that to be human is corruption itself.

I read it as existence as a form/ manifestation is already corruption which would include humans of course.

Its a bit confusing to me though, are only thoughts meant by it or also physical objects? Like how can a rock (who is something) be corrupt and untrue from its soemthingness?

For the mental realm it makes more sense though.

 

But then I dont understand the following. Trying to make sense of reality in terms of concepts for example is a thing, as a concept is a thing. Yes the map is not the territory so whatever you speak about is a reference to something real and therefore not the real thing itself. So truth cannot be uttered and that might be absolutely true. But then there are some perspectives which are more true then other - or not? I guess the untrue perspectives are loaded with stuff while the more true perspectives try to say as little as possible but as much as necessary.

Speaking in the direction of truth be like:

 

[Rishabh R]

On 10/5/2024 at 5:08 AM, Leo Gura said:

What blog topics would you like to see more of?

Leo more practical self-help stuff to master survival paired with increasing the quality of one's epistemology .

Also , as a person who is meditating since, 5 years I find it difficult to meditate consistently daily and the same goes for contemplation . Can you give a feedback ? Even though I have the key to my problems.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Is it mandatory that god will send me back as a human child on earth?

Not mandatory. That was just an example.

[Nemra]

@Jannes, I just don't understand how we can accept that we are built on corruption and then demonize other forms of corruption if we aim for purity.

What is the purpose of life if it entails corruption?

Why am I born to be corrupt?

Edited Thursday at 07:11 PM by Nemra