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What’s your view on reincarnation? Is it possible that I will be born as a zebra or another animal after I leave my physical body?

How come our default is unconsciousness? How can you tell which teachers speak the dharma vs bullshit? How can you believe in something like reincarnation with absolutely zero proof? Why should I start the journey when I know it’s insanely difficult and only a fraction of a minority actually reach the levels you discuss?

Yep. “My life” equaled that. Only the absolute would do. Hearing you loud and clear. I did the accumulation like a Boss, and gave literally all of it away. It’s not missed a bit. Let’s talk about your plan. I died for this. Please dispel my typical bullshit and jokes, that isn’t one. (It is too though?) Only you can awaken, everyone else already is. Chance is a farce. I’ve mentioned this lightly as it’s arrogant af sounding in type, but “I” meet with people, we talk, God creates, we create, ‘they’ awaken. If I am useful in your pursuit, use me. For me, you were always awake, and I was the last one to get the joke. Reincarnation, lifetimes, etc - tricky as they are both and neither the setup & punchline. Infinite Humor. Perpetual mindfuck. Perfection. “It” can’t be “gotten”, it’s not a content of thoughts, nor the thinker of thoughts, “it” is appearing as thoughts, and believing them, or recognizing “it” in them, as them. It’s entirely perfect, convincing itself it is otherwise - that that is “reality”. Perfect. The kick in the balls, is, it is you. Not “Absolute God You” - just you. Imagine a God of infinite magnitude and power, with the innocence & self awareness, yet thoughtlessness of a 1 year old. Now be mindful and honest within - how “grown up are you, really? What meaning has that? yours Make a distinction as such, create it, without identification, there is only absolute which appears to include a “distinction” and an “identification”... unconditional is as is, eternally, and remains undisturbed, un-contracted, uncontrolled, un-contorted, “delusion free”, indeed well known. Why, who, how? Me. Make the distinctions, with identification, and the Truth remains inconceivable, ungraspable, heartbreakingly just slightly out of reach - “physical”. Why, who, how? Me. You draw out the absolute mindfuck of direct experience. Once, age 16, a coked up, drunk 25 year old guy mistook me for someone else. Apparently, someone who did him very wrong. Long story short, couple weeks in the hospital, face stitched back together, and these days the only remnant of it is some admittedly rough sinus / ear issues, a handful of scars, and a God-load of compassion, appreciation & love for him. The moral of that story, in my direct experience - I do not know what anyone is thinking, feeling, nor experiencing - when I believe I do, vicariously but also truly not - “I” suffers. You might call this a great paradox of direct experience vs suffering. Nothing is what it seems, right down to the very last atom. Such is, with all things, unveiled “typically”, as self, nature, animals, people, object. The depth of our (“my”) overlays upon it are simply “deeper” than you’ve yet “been” / unconverted / inspected. Put incredibly short - kid asks his dad how God could allow Hitler, while his rated M video game is paused. Even more simply - you don’t know what death is. What you’re ‘missing’ is Awakening is total. There is no relative. This is something unlike all other thoughts, concepts, ideas. It is not conceivable, only “experienceable”, as what is without experience, and there is not then again, because there never was, experience. It’s “paper thin”, so much so there’s no paper at all, and one is basically forced to point with a term like paper thin. If “it” seems huge, direct experience brings it down to eye level, if properly inspected. Nice...tricky though...the statement “ignorance is bliss” is likely not made from the one in ignorance. We tend to suffer, under the assumption it’s part of physical reality, individuality. Separate self = suffering. In ‘personal sense’, I did not find it blissful, there was no foundation of sense at all. Now ‘i’ am entirely ignorant, and it is indeed bliss. Then be effortless, without friction and confusion. Let all go. Can’t? Inspect that can’t. Inspect “the one” who can’t. Something to ponder, awakening that which is unlimited, is not done via limits. Create your awakening, drop any limitation on formulating such a plan. It is worth everything.

OK, I wonder if any of you guys have gone through the website, "Unveiled Secrets and Messengers of light". Most of what they state resonates with me but there is a particular paragraph which has been intellectually disturbing me for a long time and I have not yet reached the required state of enlightenment to verify this statement. The webpage is here: https://unveiledsecretsandmessagesoflight.blogspot.com/2009/10/johnakan-ur-el-17mar2000.html Please allow me to quote the relevant paragraph in this topic: "Interlocutor: Another of the questions I have scheduled, is if the human spirit evolves from the unicellular animals, going through the mineral Kingdom, then the vegetable Kingdom, later on the animal Kingdom and finally as a man. Johnakan Ur-El: The spirits embody in the whole matter of the universe, but - and this is important to clarify it-, “transmigration of the soul” doesn't exist. What exists is reincarnation of the soul, a completely different concept. There is a tendency of Buddhism . And I spoke personally to my brother Siddhartha. which was misinterpreted. Interlocutor: Even at the present time? Johnakan Ur-El: Correct, the Tibetan Buddhism even at the present time keeps using it mistakenly. The animal spirit evolves as animal. The vegetable spirit evolves as vegetable. The mineral spirit evolves as mineral. The human spirit evolves as human. That is, it doesn't change, for example, from a goat to a man. This sounds beautiful because there is a fable that tells the story of how a goat becomes man, but reality is different. The transmigration of the souls doesn’t exist, I repeat, but the reincarnation of the souls. Interlocutor: The human spirit never embodied in a unicellular being , for example. Johnakan Ur-El: No, the human spirit embodied directly in a man or a woman, and it will always evolve as a man or a woman, as well as the animal embodies in an animal and it will continue evolving as animal. This doesn't mean an evolutionary stagnation, because the current chimpanzee is much more evolved than the chimpanzee of two million years ago..........." OK, the question is, then why I have not been created as a cockroach or an elephant? And what about the soul of a cockroach? (I am purposely using this example because most humans as far as I am concerned detest cockroaches!) So is creation unfair? Does the soul or spirit of a virus or bacteria have no chance to embody into a human body in a distant future to attain enlightenment? I have read Hindu and Buddhist scriptures with regards to this and they generally state that all creatures will eventually attain enlightenment or be embodied into a human form. There is a popular saying in Hinduism that it takes about 8 million years for a simple bacteria to embody into a human body. Of course, I am aware that the time taken could be longer or shorter as well. I love to hear your thoughts on this. This paragraph which I have quoted at the beginning of this thread has been bothering me for a long time. Thank you.

The passage of the story you quoted doesn’t address that. I suppose we could imagine things and add it into the piece of the story above. Or perhaps one could contact the author of the story to see what he imagines. If we assume that there is a thing called enlightenment that is good and we assume that there are some beings that do not have access to this goodness and we assume that such beings are lesser, then I would say yes, it is unfair. According to the story you posted from Johnakan, no chance. According to the story you cite from Hindu and Buddhist scriptures, yes chance. Cool stuff. I like stories about reincarnation and souls. Sometimes I imagine each being is a pod exploring earth and all of our souls are connected to one Mothership. As pods break down and die, they get recycled into new pods. In one sense, it isn’t unfair since all pods are the Mothership. Yet if one assumes that pods are different, some pods are better, and one is restricted to a certain pod fate for eternity, then that would be unfair. It’s essentially saying there is a “me” that got stuck with a crappy fate for eternity.

However, one could argue that the "subtle body" aka soul is experienced in an afterlife of some sort until reincarnation. It is a possibility, that many believe in.... Even Vedanta states the subtle body goes to a heaven or hellish realm until it's present karma is extinguished from this current life, then reincarnation.

I have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder. My mind fools me a lot and I wasted my youth in my mind fantasizing, running after delusions and not being productive at all. There was depression, regret and etc. I have felt suicidal a lot of times. Then 2 years ago I read Eckhart Tolle's book "The Power of Now" and got hope. I started to do meditation in order to make my mind, brain healthier and be happy. I did not know what is ego, what is nirvana, what is insight and etc. I thought ego was some part of my mind and I will get rid of it and be happy like Eckhart Tolle. ... until the beginning of last year, when I got depersonalization/derealization. At that time I found out that ego was me. I was ego. It was so scary. Just several months 20 minutes per day meditation damaged the sense of self. I stopped meditation, sense of self recovered after weeks and I was still unhappy with my ego (no surprise), so after 5 months I resumed meditation. Now I meditate 40 minutes per day and have never got that intense depersonalization yet. I hope I will accept it when it happens. Frustration: 1) I thought it is like sport, I will meditate every day and my mood will get better day by day. But meditation exacerbated depression, regret and etc. I have faith for better outcome, that is why I still continue meditation. 2) I dont believe some notions in spiritual path, such as reincarnation, magickal beings, realms and etc. These notions make me confused. I even think it is psychological path, not spiritual. 3) A lot of people who have been meditating for long years say different, contradictory things, I dont know which is true. This forum is a good example. The biggest challenge is my unfulfilled desires.

Forms of Spirituality ? Liberation and enlightenment The concept of being free from illusions and rules and feeling totally free and self love. Ayahuasca. Restfulness and detachment. Positive visualization. ? Divinity and Heroism.. Using God's love to get through life and harnessing the energies of the universe. That is stoicism.. Divinity is being strong, taking guidance and deriving strength from a higher source and using that to fight and survive through life. ? Character based. Qualities and attributes. Divine qualities. Godliness. The nature of God or the divine. Morality. ?Justice and morality, judgement. Religion. Behavior. Morality. Karma. Actions and outcome and judgment ? Eternity, life after death, ascension. Reincarnation. ?Mysticism like spirits, supernatural, paranormal events, ghosts, intangible sentiments. The mystic part. ?Spiritual struggle. Or war. Between material and spiritual rewards. ? Invocation, love, faith, inspiration and connection... Spells and prayers and having a loving connection and guardian relationship.. Like Swan. ? Filling the cup ? Cosmic principles based. Ma'at Sheene Dao. Universal laws. Law of attraction ?Energy based. About emotions. Words. Spiritual food. Chakra healing. The energy you create and harness. Positive visualization. Being creative. ?Contemplation based. Meditation, contemplation shadow work, insights, awareness, reflection, transcendental. Observation. ?Nature worship ? Empathy love charity, purity of Conscience, charity. Kindness. Kind acts. Helping people. Creating communities. ? Consciousness and Oneness.

Spirituality based on 5 principles ? Liberation and enlightenment The concept of being free from illusions and rules and feeling totally free and self love. Ayahuasca. Restfulness and detachment. Positive visualization. ? Divinity and Heroism.. Using God's love to get through life and harnessing the energies of the universe. That is stoicism.. Divinity is being strong, taking guidance and deriving strength from a higher source and using that to fight and survive through life. ? Character based. Qualities and attributes. Divine qualities. Godliness. The nature of God or the divine. Morality. ?Justice and morality, judgement. Religion. Behavior. Morality. Karma. Actions and outcome and judgment ? Eternity, life after death, ascension. Reincarnation. ?Mysticism like spirits, supernatural, paranormal events, ghosts, intangible sentiments. The mystic part. ?Spiritual struggle. Or war. Between material and spiritual rewards. ? Invocation, love, faith, inspiration and connection... Spells and prayers and having a loving connection and guardian relationship.. Like Swan. ? Filling the cup ? Cosmic principles based. Ma'at Sheene Dao. Universal laws. Law of attraction ?Energy based. About emotions. Words. Spiritual food. Chakra healing. The energy you create and harness. Positive visualization. Being creative. ?Contemplation based. Meditation, contemplation shadow work, insights, awareness, reflection, transcendental. Observation. ? Nature worship..

In the first lot of pictures he looks close to finding out if reincarnation actually happens. Second lot of pictures is Leo watching a Ricky Gervais performance. Third set of pictures is after Leo has inherited a lot of money and spends $1,000 per month on the upkeep of his beard. Thanks for this.

@SunnyNewDay Hard to say, it won't matter either way because you will self-decieve yourself as god once again. reincarnation is just a term for explaining form/formless "you" won't get reincarnate, but "you as formless" as god will split back into form I'm just telling stories about in-between transitions that may or may not be true. it's not important really, but i once heard some other lecturer talking about this. so i thought it would be viable to talk about, in theory and not illogical. you can youtube many people talking about their imaginary spirit guide lol

People talking about reincarnation as if they know this is 100% what actually what happens.... Often wonder if this is just something people regurgitate after taking some mushrooms and watching some spiritual theory online or if they actually have discovered something that is true.

When the day comes you’ve suffered quite enough from in materialism, and you begin the path of self discovery...you’ve got having murdered someone to heal from, the police trying to figure out who you are, always looking over your shoulder, waking up everyday wondering if this is the day you get arrested and spend the rest of your life in jail, the maddening burden of the lives you effected by killing someone, etc, etc. You’ve made this life a hell. No need to consider reincarnation. What about a psychopath who doesn’t care? How infinite is love. Where is the truth not? Can they be separated?

Sorry, I meant *detangle not deranged. And no. When you get sick of “all the hassle” (SUFFERING) - you get willing. Up to you how long you go on. Thinking is hijacking experience and feelings right under your nose, and you’re feeding into it more - rather than addressing it, by making it about “Enlightenment”, and your story about “Reincarnation”. This is the fragmenting, not the practices. You’ve got that backwards...but thinking keeps it backwards because it is always staying a step ahead, which is what practices are designed for. You have yet to realize that all your thoughts about you, are false.

I don't mean to preach but when you have serious emotional and self-esteem issues, I don't think reincarnation is a subject that you should be concerned with right now.

So reincarnation exists only in our heads like a thought, prolly is no different than a pink elephant. We get decieve by our own perceptions. I think there's no answer who satisfy the ego.

@Jonac lol dude there’s no life and death, no waking up to experiences. These are all assumptions you’ve made. You are already the dog living on the streets right now as you simultaneously are the human I’m replying to. Reincarnation is “The process of going from form to formless back to form and then back to formless again” in the eyes of a human who sees that there is both life and death.

Become an Arhat. If you will die as an Arhat, you won't be reborn again. But of course, it's just a Buddhist idea, nobody really knows. I do not believe in reincarnation.

Chapter 316 New chapter - Mythological Framework 1. Six phases and minor phases 2. 3 cosmic characters 3. Swan and the wolf 4. Two types of love - soft love and Devils love as Bdsm 5. Hell of chaos run by Satan. Eternal restlessness. Eternal restlessness and absence of eternity for the one governed by Satan 6. 4 demigods for the devil - the vulture, the snake, the wolf and the grim reaper. These are all masculine. Demigods and symbols for God, - Swan, dragon, pets, stuffed toys, trapezium mountain, rings, mother goddess, eternity dish, christ, chalice, a pillar and obelisks, shabti dolls, trees, 7. Satan represented by a gateway to hell like a place of total darkness and bad vibe. 8. Union with God in eternity and reincarnation. Final closure 9 afterlife. The field of reeds, the fulfillment of unfulfilled spiritual desires, the experience of paradise and an ideal life. 10 Swan practice 11. Concept of heath 12. Twin flame guardian 13. Imaginary friends and lovers, and spirit animals or demi gods. 14. Art, romance and fantasy 15. Concept of core body and specific layers. 16 importance of Mastery 17. concept of categories 18 Blend of spirituality and materialism and myth 19 Energies of Life 20 power of Conscience 21 energy of love 22 change of state 23 training the brain - part of Mastery 24 chain of support.. Imaginary 25 unshakable faith 26 moment to moment awareness and creativity 27 enrichment and yield. 28 internal state and internal fulfillment 29 Swan manual, tarot cards, the spirit exercise(water exercise), contemplation exercises, parts of mind exercises, review contemplation, brail exercise. Cup exercise. 30 We have 2 frameworks. One is conceptual framework and the other is Mythological Framework.. A short description of a concept discussed earlier. Primary truth - the reality. Fact Example - poor people get treated bad. Not so good looking people are ignored. You have to cooperate with the politicians or you cannot have freedom of speech or else you will be in jail. These truths are based on social fabric or social dynamics Secondary truth - you need food to survive. Or you need good sleep to function properly. Drugs are mad. These are things that you cant deny and are not dependent on social order or structure or fabric. It's a fundamental truth or applicable truth. It's directly applied. Example - Higher truth - its the universal truth, the idealistic truth, the truth of nature, the real truth. It's applicable in all circumstances. It goes beyond the limitations of either society or physical body. It's like an eternal truth that will continue to exist or survive even after death. It is always true no matter what.its like a cosmic truth Example - love heals the heart and truth wins or courage is powerful. Evil will not succeed. It looks like it's getting contradicted in reality. Space Blend of spirituality and materialism True soulmate Energies of Life Sleep issues Power of Conscience Aggressors Emotional aggression Investment of emotions Basic reality Energy of love Dehumanization and character assassination Quality of the day Change of State... Journaling. Poverty and insensitivity Family Control, Confidence and Independence Openness Training the Brain Profiling how to profile people Destressing Single Life and Happiness Time for healing Zero Expectations life Important concepts ? Space ? Zero Expectations ❤️ chain of support ❤️ Healing ?Moment to moment awareness and creativity ❤️ Universal love ? You are the hero ?Prayers ?Creativity and personal growth ?Use of science in daily life ?Unshakable faith

New chapter - Mythological Framework 1. Six phases and minor phases 2. 3 cosmic characters 3. Swan and the wolf 4. Two types of love - soft love and Devils love as Bdsm 5. Hell of chaos run by Satan. Eternal restlessness. Eternal restlessness and absence of eternity for the one governed by Satan 6. 4 demigods for the devil - the vulture, the snake, the wolf and the grim reaper. These are all masculine. Demigods and symbols for God, - Swan, dragon, pets, stuffed toys, trapezium mountain, rings, mother goddess, eternity dish, christ, chalice, a pillar and obelisks, shabti dolls, trees, 7. Satan represented by a gateway to hell like a place of total darkness and bad vibe. 8. Union with God in eternity and reincarnation. Final closure 9 afterlife. The field of reeds, the fulfillment of unfulfilled spiritual desires, the experience of paradise and an ideal life. 10 Swan practice 11. Concept of heath 12. Twin flame guardian 13. Imaginary friends and lovers, and spirit animals or demi gods. 14. Art, romance and fantasy 15. Concept of core body and specific layers. 16 importance of Mastery 17. concept of categories 18 Blend of spirituality and materialism and myth 19 Energies of Life 20 power of Conscience 21 energy of love 22 change of state 23 training the brain - part of Mastery 24 chain of support.. Imaginary 25 unshakable faith 26 moment to moment awareness and creativity 27 enrichment and yield. 28 internal state and internal fulfillment 29 Swan manual, tarot cards, the spirit exercise(water exercise), contemplation exercises, parts of mind exercises, review contemplation, brail exercise. Cup exercise. 30 We have 2 frameworks. One is conceptual framework and the other is Mythological Framework.. A short description of a concept discussed earlier. Primary truth - the reality. Fact Example - poor people get treated bad. Not so good looking people are ignored. You have to cooperate with the politicians or you cannot have freedom of speech or else you will be in jail. These truths are based on social fabric or social dynamics Secondary truth - you need food to survive. Or you need good sleep to function properly. Drugs are mad. These are things that you cant deny and are not dependent on social order or structure or fabric. It's a fundamental truth or applicable truth. It's directly applied. Example - Higher truth - its the universal truth, the idealistic truth, the truth of nature, the real truth. It's applicable in all circumstances. It goes beyond the limitations of either society or physical body. It's like an eternal truth that will continue to exist or survive even after death. It is always true no matter what.its like a cosmic truth Example - love heals the heart and truth wins or courage is powerful. Evil will not succeed. It looks like it's getting contradicted in reality. Space Blend of spirituality and materialism True soulmate Energies of Life Sleep issues Power of Conscience Aggressors Emotional aggression Investment of emotions Basic reality Energy of love Dehumanization and character assassination Quality of the day Change of State... Journaling. Poverty and insensitivity Family Control, Confidence and Independence Openness Training the Brain Profiling how to profile people Destressing Single Life and Happiness Time for healing Zero Expectations life Important concepts ? Space ? Zero Expectations ❤️ chain of support ❤️ Healing ?Moment to moment awareness and creativity ❤️ Universal love ? You are the hero ?Prayers ?Creativity and personal growth ?Use of science in daily life ?Unshakable faith ?The beauty of art and fantasy 3 types of framework 1. Conceptual framework 2. Spiritual framework 3. Mythological Framework Concepts will be elaborated later.

@Leo Gura Ok leo . what happens for people who didn't reach nirvana, reincarnation or heaven/hell ?

6 phases and minor phases 1 Birth major 2 Life major 1A Childhood 1B Teenage 1C Adult 1D Youth 1E Middle age 1st half 1E Middle age second half 1F Old age 1G End time 3 Death Major 4 Afterlife major 5 Reincarnation major 6 Eternity major ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ Morality beliefs Redemption and atonement Heaven and hell ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ 3 cosmic characters God Devil Satan Trinity ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ Core Body and specific layers A core state of physical and spiritual and added layers to either improve or deteriorate its condition ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ Internal state Psychological - means the accumulated state of mind through childhood experience and upbringing, environment, trauma, genetic disorders and general mental state over decades. Mental - temporary mental state over the past and current week. Emotional - emotional state which keeps fluctuating Energy - a vibe Spiritual - spiritual/moral/religious - issues regarding conscience, morality and connection with higher power and intangible matters of life. Existential/sacred duality aspect Existential(fight) and Sacred (self esteem, ego, character, nature, desires, identity, closure, humanity, dignity, immutable, formed, peaceful, equilibrium) Sexual (romantic and unromantic) ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ Internal fulfillment There are 2 types of fulfillment. A fulfillment that comes from liberation from problems and chaos, a need to have stability in disorder and knowing that now there is freedom from the struggles. Liberation based. A fulfillment that comes from knowing that the business is doing good, everything is in order and things are going well, a form of stability and security. Security based or achievement based. A desire fulfilled or closure achieved. Security, structure, enrichment, comfort, achievement and closure. When there is a problem with this internal fulfillment it leads to a feeling of massive deprivation and resultant depression and brings a feeling of emptiness in life and lack of motivation. This state of fulfillment is very much based in the existential sacred duality aspect of internal state. People who are too driven suffer from the lack of this Security - a feeling of security that everything is done and going smoothly. The business is finished and running. Nothing to worry about structure - a framework, a sequence, an order to not feel chaotic enrichment - to feel like you are adequately being filled with all the nourishment both mentally and emotionally and spiritually comfort - feeling comfy and at ease. Feeling well rested and not being hassled and rushed. A feeling of relaxation and warmth and ease. achievement - having fulfilled the desires of the heart closure. - a feeling of healing after a distressing situation. No more struggle no more fighting for something. A closure to whatever happened and the feeling like it's done with. Liberation - feeling of escape from the endless struggle to defend one's space and livelihood. And freedom from sufferings. ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ Key ingredients Good people Love Good health Morality... As maintenance Faith Happiness Art, work, passion, creativity Good energy A good childhood ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ .. E E E Y E - enrichment. E - Energy. E - engagement. Y - yield Basic model Enrichment and Yield

Is resurrection of dead people possible? In my view, yes. The past is timeless information in the now. So for example Michael Jackson exists as information now, but he is also an eternal soul which is simply a unique reference point, and in the future that soul may experience itself as a new body here on earth. That is similar to reincarnation, but resurrection happens without the need for biological birth. Actually, my theory allows, in theory, us to get resurrection (glorified) bodies right now! And it's just the habit of the global ego that prevents that from happening and forcing our bodies to age and die. My theory dismisses the (very commonly held belief even among spiritual teachers) idea that aging and death are inevitable.

(DQ)"We are beginning to see the entire universe a holographically interlinked network of energy and information, organized whole and self-referential at all scales of existence" - Ervin Lazlo (DQ)"Out beyond ideas of wrong-doing and right-doing there is a field. I'll meet you there" - Rumi (DQ)"A samadhi beats an organism any day" - unknown (Q) What is the essence of stage turquoise? - Leo Gura Holistic global collectivist & self-transcendent OVERVIEW Sacrificing the self for the benefit of existential reality Experiencing the wholeness of existence through mind & spirit The universe is alive & not a dumb clockwork machine Building a human community grounded on mystical wisdom Getting all of mankind to awaken You wont find turquoise in politics, education, media, business & universities Turquoise people are mainly mystics, sages, gurus, healers, visionaries. Clairvoyants, leader & teacher Synthesis of all dichotomies for the benefit of all life & all consciousness HOW IT EMERGES Realizes that I cannot solve the worlds problems just through systemic solutions (It needs community) Realizes consciousness unifies everything & everyone (consciousness is central & every problem is rooted in consciousness) Deeply sees the limits of thinking, modeling, reason, logic & mind Realizes that all its understanding of reality so far haven't been the ultimate answer Very serious spiritual practice; a flowering of mysticism & dissolving the boundaries between self, other & outer world. Awareness of Maya, ego transcendence Realizes that mind & understanding doesn't bring happiness and yellow wants a permanent solution A shift from learning about stuff to merging with the many VALUES Consciousness & Elevating the consciousness of mankind Existential truth Deep metaphysical insights Wisdom & the wisdom of nature Mysticism, spirituality & non-duality God & Divinity Holism, integration & synthesis (vs analysis) Left & right brain synthesis Being vs knowing, doing & having Honesty, transparency & radical authenticity Minimalist sustainable living (less is more) Collaborative synergy Human wellness Healing on every dimension (physical, emotional, spiritual, etc) Exploring altered states of consciousness Intuition Channeling & direct downloads from infinite intelligence Supernatural degrees of creativity Awakening & Transcendence Liberation Unconditional Love Emotional Mastery, Mindfulness & Presence Paradox Esoteric teachings Gratitude Unity Deeper & Deeper levels of interconnectedness Selfless living Sacrificing self for the greater consciousness of the whole Meditation, Yoga, Contemplation & Self-Inquiry Spontaneity, playfulness & self-amusement The really big picture (Embodiment vs models) CHARACTERISTICS Lighthearted vs heavyhearted & logical Spiral wizard Sees the human race as a single organism (not metaphorically) Sees the world as interlinked causes & effects in interacting fields of energy Has a supernatural intuition Deeply trusts in intuition Non-manipulative, Non-ideological & non-judgmental Far beyond greens faddish spiritualty Has had a direct experience of one being God (doesn't have to be enlightened) Deeper mental & spiritual capacities are awakened (New sense & new abilities) Heightened sensory awareness Paranormal / psychic abilities can develop The mystical become the mundane, the paranormal becomes the normal Ecologically conscious Being visionary & an inspiring leader Unifies science, technology, medicine & mysticism Deeper understanding of all religions & able to integrate them Synthesis of the East & West (Western technology & Eastern mysticism) Understanding of the fulness of the spiral & uses all the colors proactively & holistically Turquoise is referred to as the 6th or 7th Chakra in the Chakra system Business is about awakening people Sexual desire is transmuted into metaphysical love Great mental & behavioral flexibility Excellent at dealing with paradox Very wise & teach in unorthodox styles Post rational & post material connects to being rather than quantifying & categorizing the world Non-linear, human-centered, supernatural intuition Ability to connect to source High integrity The universe is both impersonal & deeply personal Deeper systems thinker than yellow was (systems are alive) Life consists of fractals Stands in awe at the cosmic order (micro to macro) Reality can be experienced but never truly known Life is the most important thing there is & on the other hand my life is completely important Detects the harmonic forces witch govern organizations Moves from gross to subtle External to the internal Transcendence of morality, meaning, judgement, life & death, duality, mind, reason, science and good & evil Finally has really deep honest, meaningful relationships & communication (NO EGO) EXAMPLES Sahdguru Shunyamurti Thomas Campbell Yoda Ken Wilber David Hawkins Shinzen Young Deepak Chopra Stan Grof Osho vs his community Mooji Rupert Spira Romaji Eckart Tolle Martin Ball Yogananda Sri Aurobindo Ervin Laszlo David Loy Allen Watts Wim Hof Mat Khan The Dalai Lama Sacha Shulgin Yoga Holotropic breathwork The holographic universe (BOOK) Opening the third eye Out-of-body experience Pineal gland Samadhi experience Mediums like Bashar Some of the stuff Aleister Crowley was doing Rudolf Steiner Occultist type figures Alternative healing methods The 'Maya' Notion Psychedelics; 5-Meo-Dmt The q race from star trek Rupert sheldrakes The Akashic records Paranormal abilities Dene Radians paranormal research Gandhi's ideas of pluralistic harmony Notion of 'Gaia' Biocentrism Transpersonal psychology Jung's collective unconscious Quantum field theory Sacred geometry Morphogenetic fields Reincarnation Opening chakras Saints, sages, mystics & prophets STATISTICS O.1% of the adult population is turquoise Less than 1% of the worlds total world influence is turquoise SLOGANS We are all god Everything is one You are already enlightened Everything is perfect & everything is evolving To see a world in a grain of sand & haven in a wild flower The kingdom of heaven is within Forgive them father for they know not what they do I am that Life is a dream WHAT TRIGGERS TURQUOISE The insanity of the world It sees the unsustainability of the world The status quo Myopia Materialistic corruption Profits over truth & spirit Dogmatic scientism & rationalism Ecological dysfunction Collective suffering of mankind Little, petty & mundane affairs LIMITATIONS: Can become too mystical & too spiritual to the point where they're unconcerned with earthly problems They live in their own reality Turquoise teachings can be short & confusing for less conscious people Can develop a guru complex, here everyone serves your spiritual ego - which can lead to corruption Life can become meaningless Can deny the importance of political issues Can assume that other people are just as capable of awakening are There can be a community division on a grand scale Can get stuck on shallow levels of enlightenment & non-duality Non-duality wars - gurus can sometimes criticize other gurus from other traditions Maha Samadhi (BOOK: graceful exists, how great beings die) Its not immune to false beliefs & cultural biases/values Its not immune to mistake Its not immune to sexual cravings & addictions Its not immune to hurting people & humanity at large. Its solutions are not always gonna work and can backfire. HOW TO FULLY EMBODY? Have a hardcore industrial grade spiritual practice Contemplate everything Embody unconditional love Long solo retreats Spiritual purifications of various kinds 5-meo-dmt Read turquoise people Meet turquoise sages face to face Study cutting edge science & technology Study non-dual theory deeply Open your chakras, especially the lower ones & your heart Transmute sexual energy Learn alternative healing methods Make sure you master all the lower stages (go back on each stage and ask: What am I missing & What have I fully integrated? (DQ) = Direct Quote

All these death, afterlife, reincarnation questions, theories and confusion arise from one deep rooted fundamental assumption ''This body along with it's current personality and memories is I''. With this false assumption, when a person listens to half baked nonduality fantastical theories and understands even half of that, all these weird confusions start to take place. The immortality, supremacy, absolute and nondual nature of the Self gets conceptually superimposed on 'I' this body-mind. After all, there is only one I. The idea of a solid, firm entity/soul with hardwired features travelling from life to life is ludicrous. If any person looks in his/her own life, they can't help but notice how one's own personality, knowledge graph and preferences changes so radically over just 4-5 years timeline if one contemplates about metaphysical stuff long enough. So even in this one life, we play multiple roles and wear multiple masks, only the current one grabs us by the throat and we forget about the rest of it mostly, thanks to our shortsightedness and forgetfulness. Only people living unquestioned mundane life over decades see themselves as same person for 50 years. And another very common and naive tendency is conflating the absolute with imaginary relative. This too stemming from the same assumption, I am the body-mind. It all goes like this: If Absolute Consciousness is all there is, then why.... If I am God, then why... If there is no real time and space, then why... If I am the immortal Self, then why... so on and so forth.. Basically whats going on is, a nonduality theory is heard or even a glimpse is had, but immediately the ego-mind arises as I and then tries hard to fit that absolute knowledge into how it can now serve 'ME' as this body-mind entity. Putting the Absolute on conditional sentences like ''if, when, why, how etc''. Dude just stop. Stop deluding yourself. As long as there is even the slightest idea of body-mind-location-causality-birth-death-memory-bondage-liberation, One is NOT God. There is no God along with those ideas. And after all those ideas vanish as non-existent, there is no point in proclaiming oneself as God. That which needs to proclaim itself as God with a bigass mic, is not the God. And that which is really God, doesn't need to proclaim it or make a big deal out of it. The real, wise, ancient traditions of nonduality understood this problem very well and thus they left no chance behind for any individual person, place, time or condition to co-opt and proclaim the supreme authority over Truth. That's why they stressed so much on complete negation, whatever one can think/believe/concoct, however grand or however 'real' it feels, is not the Truth.