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@Caoimhin That's a great idea but if I get stuck on a question, I easily need to find the next one. I'm currently wearing a wristband to remind me to contemplate the question "what is a relationship"? It has something to do with no-self that I discovered through the neti-neti method. The soul however is the hardest barrier to get past if I want to follow the method. It can reveal what my true nature is as nothing which applies to everyone meaning that we are all One and that Absolute Solipcism is true. A relationship would then be the quality of one's self-acceptance shown onto someone else. If you want me to no longer use the Google Doc, how should an ultimate commonplace book be created? I believe that it's possible to gain the software for it but I don't really know enough categories and don't have the creativity to create an ultimate commonplace book. Do you think that Leo offers too many questions or am I answering them too slowly?

19 minutes ago, Salvijus said: That's clever. But let me challenge this. Who observes that the coffee table has vanished? There's somone else observing the coffee table coming into existence and then dissapearing. I would agree that observer and the objects of observation are ultimately one, but not the same. Bc if it was the same, then if a coffee table was to vanish, YOU would vanish with it. > The separate self or witness vanishes exactly with it. Absolute Reality is initially unaware of itself of no appearance/coffee table arises, but IT has got the potential for sentience, when some appearance shows up. Without appearance imagined/manifesting, NOTHINGNESS. Yes, your Essential Nature, or Infinite Reality itself can never vanish, but it can be unaware of itself if no appearance arises/is being imagined. Nothingness. Not nothing, but a Nothingness initially unaware of itself if nothing arises, but with Infinite Potential to manifest/imagine any possible show within itself. I agree with Hawal that Nothingness is a very good pointer, since you can not associate any image/appearance/attribute with it, since any image/appearance/attribute would be an arising within it. Neti Neti. The empty Abyss of the True Subject, fully nondual when a coffee table shows up, watching itself. . I know, sounds nuts... , but feels wonderful. And when there are no separate self arisings, the coffee table watches itself. And later, when a human thought stream is needed for practical daily business, that appears also within you. But doesn't-need to. True You is still there when the coffee table watches itself, no human identities necessary. Optionally these can be imagined, but the True You is fully fine without them. And any scary-reaction-arisings to this state of things are just protection-mechanism of the illusion/game, also arising in You. Please excuse when I started rambling with these musings again... Selling Water by the River.

Not to pile on, but let's go with this line of reasoning. Over the last 14 billion years, the cosmos has evolved to the point of humans being on this planet. It has finally created forms capable of meta-cognition (maybe earlier on other planets, but let's not Trek out right now). So the mind is advanced enough to question itself. Neti neti (and other inward paths of inquiry) becomes possible. Unable to resist this new frontier, the mind ravenously pursues it, like it pursues everything else. Only now, when it arrives at the final destination, it has the "Oh shit!" moment that we call awakening. It realizes that it isn't real. It can't dissolve itself, because self-destruction is contrary to its programming, so it does the next best thing. It submits to the absolute, which is always its essence, and they harmoniously soar into the cosmos. Drakarys! ?

I see one big problem with the spiritual path. Is so abstract and so overwhelming especially y in the beginning, you probably don't even know what to focus on or what to do. For example, my first contact with spirituality was reading 'The Power of Now' 10 years ago. I started meditating and read a few more books on the topic. Got great insights and good results from my new understandings and from the practice of daily meditation... but until last year I never even occur to me the idea of doing a 10 day solo retreat. Until last year, I didn't know about most practices listed below like Kriya Yoga or Self-Inquiry (ofc my main focus wasn't spirituality this last decade, I just focused on it for some stretches of weeks-months, just reading theory and doing meditation). Most newbies don't know what practices to do. The low hanging fruits are a few minutes of meditation, conventional yoga and reading theory. For sure that can have some benefits, even big ones, but most people are not going to get deep enough. And a lot of time can get be wasted not knowing alternative/more powerful methods. Most probably are going to quit because of it (is like trying to get jacked, and spend years just doing pushups and bodyweight squats, without even knowing what a bench press or a barbell squat is) So I made a compilation of spiritual practices: -Meditation -Contemplation -Neti-neti -Self inquiry -Solo retreat -Vipassana retreat -Psychedelics -Kriya yoga -Conventional yoga -Spiritual autolysis -Connecting with nature -Gratitude -Theory (reading, videos, live gurus/mentors) -Breathwork -Shadow work I know there is a debate on the forum about meditation vs psychedelics. Everyone is different, and the path can vary from one person to another. Thats fine. And thats the point. To have different perspectives. So the idea of this post is twofold: -Have a ranked list of spiritual practices in one place that can be tried and tested, especially for newbies. -You can share your personal tier list of your practice (so people can have a sense of what are the most useful overall) Here is the tier list link: https://tiermaker.com/create/list-of-spiritual-practices-15731211 Feel free to add some practices.

@sleep To be honest, Peter Ralstos's method and Neti Neti Meditation. I don't know if it is the most profound awakening that you'll have, but it is a beginning.

I understand only what I am not. The human mind is not the enemy. It is brilliant, with the remarkable capacity of metacognition. The only question that matters is, "Who am I?". If sincere, the mind will neti neti its way to the edge of mystery. On the day I received my Ph.D., I realized that the true lesson of all those years of research was how little I actually knew. I have never forgotten that lesson, and have continued along its path to arrive at the same conclusion as Socrates. I know that I know nothing. That admission is the pinnacle achievement of the mind. Don't underestimate the dissolving power of knowledge finally realizing its own limitations. The mind cannot go beyond, but it humbly steps aside and gestures toward the doorway leading within. Stepping through is shedding the cloak of the self, and wordlessly merging with the mystery that is beyond. Call it spiritual BS if you want, but if you see it as such it is only because you have not stepped through the doorway yet. ?

>I feel like it’s become a living reality in some ways but there is also conditioning that is pulling me back and how I experience things now in relation to that conditioning I’ve definitely felt and still feel to some extent that I’ve completely lost my mind and gone insane because it’s so far out compared to what I thought reality was 3-4 years ago. Be good to your separate self. It is not that you are not that, but you are not ONLY that. You contain it. If you say "You are not it", on one hand it is true, on the other hand you contain it. You give rise to it, it arises in you. So in the end, you are not ONLY it (credits concerning the "you are not not only that" to Colette Davie). In Ken Wilbers language: Differentiation and Integration vs. Disassociation and .... problems. Your separate self will operate better, more efficient, more loving and way smarter when you no longer have ignorance, or believe to be ONLY that separate self. In the words of Daniel Brown: The small you/separate self gets out of the way, Awakened Awareness (Mahamudra/Dzogchen-term for Infinite Consciousness/Reality) takes over and does all tasks and daily life at hand much more smarter than the separate small self/you could. And since the intelligence from the separate self is just borrowed from the infinite Intelligence of Reality, you just remove a filter limiting the flow of intelligence and intuition. The "I am not only the separate self",or "the separate self arises in me, and its just a bundle/a Gestalt of moving I feelings/thoughts, with no real existence beyond its structure/Gestalt/structure-Gestalt=probability-arising-distribution of thoughts/feelings" is in my opinion the more sophisticated version of Neti Neti. The separate self Gestalt/structure arisings "borrows" its appearance of being real/consciousness from Infinite Consciousness, like the planets are only shining from the light of the sun. It doesnt really exist/shine on its own (see the Video of Francis Lucille below). What is conscious is not the separate self, but infinite consciousness. And the separate self believing itself to be true is just being that misunderstanding arising/moving in that which is really conscious. You look out from your body like you look out from your car, but you are not your car. And with the separate self thoughts/feelings moving in you, its a bit more tricky, but a similiar confusion/mistaking what consciousness really is.... The only thing that fully drops from the separate self is the belief-concept (feeling and thought arisings) that you are only this body-mind or flow of identity-arisings. The rest of the separate self (or small you instead of You) can and should remain fully functional in You (Reality itself), that is the healthy version of the process. But if it all happens too fast (which can lead to a more "interesting" and unhealthy version of the process, with too little integration, see what happened to Ramana in the beginning. So huge is the bliss of realizing and dwelling in what You really are....). And until you experience the stabilized and integrated form, it can be an interesting ride... Have some humor on the path, a good map, and bon voyage! Luckily, it all happens in that which You really are, and you never can loose that. >I do admit that I’m to a certain extent trying to figure it out by thinking and reason but I’ve also experiences some unreasonable things in my trips so I know it has limits. I have had some breakthroughs but it’s not all clear so I’m weary of thinking ”I got it” and I can still feel there is this sense of wanting to ”grasp”. But I hope this can open me up more and help me go beyond that. To really get it, you need a change of state, an Awakening, as you write. For example via Psychedelics, and/or a good meditation system, like "Pointing out the Great Way, Brown". Or ideally, both. Then from these Awakenings come hopefully good/correct understandings/realizations. Correct understandings = understandings that facilitate and don't block further understandings/realization and Awakening-States. It is a merry-go-round of Awakening -> Realization/Understanding -> Awakening a level higher-> Realization/Understanding a level higher -> ... . Until you conform fully to the Enlightened Mind: And when your level of Awakening, boosted and stabilized by a foundation of correct or non-ignorant Understanding/Realization reaches a certain level, then Crossing Over to fully Realizing your True Nature can happen (necessary is normally a certain time of seeing the whole Visual Field/Awareness Bubble as mere infinite appearance arising, and seeing ALL thought/feeling-arisings moving as empty appearances in you). Especially the last point takes some time... A nice description is in Pointing Out the Great Way, Chapters on Crossing Over and Basis Enlightenment (Basis= Awakening to the Absolute Nature of Reality, in Zen "Great Enlightenment"). So you have to conform in Awakening State AND Understanding/Realization to the Real Nature of Things/Reality/Enlightened Mind, and then Crossing Over can happen all by itself. Infinite Consciousness/Reality realizing Itself what it is, Reality realizing Reality itself, since Reality is Infinite Consciousness. IT understands itself. And then one normally wonders why you haven't seen the forest for the trees earlier.... But hey, what a ride! But you can't force Crossing Over, that would be yet more of so called "artificial actitivites" of the separte-self-Gestalt, creating more Illusion while trying to force it. And that is why it is so difficult, and I am a bit less than totally happy with most of the maps we have so far about this process. Some traditions like Zen even made what some would call a fetish (sorry) out of throwing the maps away, like throwing away the Laṅkāvatāra Sūtra-Map [Wikipedia: the most important doctrines of the Laṅkāvatāra are the primacy of consciousness (Skt. vijñānavada), the teaching that consciousness as the only reality and that "all the objects of the world, and the names and forms of experience, are manifestations of the mind" as well as the "identification of the Buddha-nature (in the state of tathāgatagarbha) with alayavijñāna"]. More on that, see Wilber Integral Buddhism, chapter on Zen. Throwing maps away is true on some limited level, like getting out of only conceptual thinking into non-conceptual Awareness itself. But still... Look at the success-rate of enlightened ones, or rather the non-success-rate... Yet, I must admit I still love Zen, like whats more precise than your face before your parents were born? Or the Sound of the One Hand? Best map I have found so far is Pointing Out the Great Way, Daniel Brown. That, maybe boosted by Psychedelics to get some introduction to the Nondual-States faster... And for Buddhism & Psychedelics, see: Psychedelic Buddhism: A User's Guide to Traditions, Symbols, and Ceremonies, Crowley, and Secret Drugs of Buddhism: Psychedelic Sacraments and the Origins of the Vajrayana, Crowley. Not that Buddhism would ever do something like that.... ( : Francis Lucille on: Planets (separate self) shining in the light of the sun (Infinite Consciousness/Reality). They don't shine by themselves. Selling Water by the River ( :

Your perspective on that is already quite good. I would suggest to add these three perspectives: 1: -> The infinite perspectives in the Non-Euclidian-Space as approximation 2: When allowing for forgetting in time, then also allowing for forgetting other perspectives right now, or in "space". 3: The Awakening to the Absolutely Empty Subject that you (and all beings) really are. Any boundary can only be imagined within that. That is why you have to be fully empty to understand Absolute Reality. Then: When you are fully empty and nondual, perceptions perceiving themselves, at some point you will directly have the realization and understanding that the same Consiousness that you are is in the "other", having arisings of the separate self-feelings and -thoughts, being believed and not seen through, just in the same way it was with you for a long time. Then, these dry perspectives explained above become a lived and felt reality. You can not "think" or reason your way to these Awakenings. But with a perspective that is actually close to how things really work, it calmes your questions (mental arisings in your mindstream, which also include separate self-feelings and separte self-thoughts) on this, and make you rest in the Suchness, resting in the infinite Abyss of Empty Nothingness that you are. And then you are open for these Awakenings. You can't force them (that would be generating separate-self arisings, or artifical activity as Daniel Brown calls it in "Pointing out the Great Way"), but you can make your mindstream open and compatible/available for them (Evaluating these Koan on Psychedelics for sure also helps). More on that in the chapter on Non-Meditation Yoga in this book. All waves on the river are the river, watching the river, and are not separate from the river. There is only be the river. All form that can arise have to arise in Reality/Consciousness, including all imaginary boundaries. If you fully understand the structure of your perspective in this life, you can generalize this understanding for all possible perspectives. Since any boundary or border between any perspective can only be form in consciousness. How can you define any outside or inside if any boundary marking this boundary would be an arising in Absolute Consciousness? How can there be any time in it, besides and imagined arisings moving in it, imagining all past and future? What has to be there before every beginning and ending? What are you? Can you ever get truly "outside" of Yourself? And you can not say anything "positive" about this reality that you are, the Absolute Subject, since that would be a form, and arising, arising in it/You. You can only say what it is not. Neti Neti. "It" is Reality itself, unlimited, infinite. And it has the potential for sentience, perceptions perceiving themselves, as soon as forms arise. But this sentience is also empty, it can not be pointed to as arising or form of any kind. And yet, all of the infinite dimensions and forms arise in It/True You. You can describe the infinity of all arisings/forms of infinite dimensions/multiverses. But that which is truly infinite, what Absolute Reality/True You are, has to be realized and awakened to. That is why smarter people than myself mainly used Koans like the Clap of the one Hand, or An ancient pond/ a frog jumps in/ the sound of water. But the perspectives explained above were helpful for me to relax my philosophical mind with helpful perspectives that were close to how things really work. To be available for the real Awakening. Selling Water by the River

Notice everything in your field of experience. Accept everything in your field of experience. Ignore everything in your field of experience. also there’s Neti-neti

Well here’s how to do that: Be very still for a very long time, in mind and body (really just mind but generally body stillness helps with mind stillness). To spell it out though / In other words : Inquiry. Find the I; the source/base of the false I, to reveal the true Self, to itself — It’s the only thing that is completely still and already present before any thought, and thus, to focus on it merely requires: the non-focus on everything that isn’t always already now… so that, via process-of-elimination (neti-neti), there is a sort of “focus” on a “special object,” the subject; that which is prior to any experience or object. This requires first becoming aware of the whole field, so that every object of experience can be relegated to awareness, without intentional focus on any object. If you try to inquire without first becoming aware of the whole field, then that which you have yet to become aware of will masquerade as the false I, producing a situation wherein you think you’re abiding as the witness but really you’ve just surrendered quite a bit of focus on most of the objects yet for some of the (objects in the) field, you will be attending to it without realizing it; meaning: identified as it. Once you’ve become aware of the whole field, via meditation practice, starting up the inquiry should not feel like a complicated thought move — it should be like one snap of a finger and you’re already doing it fully. Because the focus is the most essential aspect of your experience; that which is always already present, and prior to everything else. If it feels bumpy or jumpy getting it started, like the focus turns on and off repeatedly, just notice how what you’re actually looking for is equally prior to both of those two (on & off) conditions, and retract your focus from those supposed conditions and just be the witness that requires no object (including an object such as one of those conditions). Don’t look for what is already the case but you just aren’t noticing. Look for what is already the case and the only thing you always notice.

The negative awakening, where one sees what is not, is the highest knowledge within the mind. It is the final milestone of Neti Neti. The positive awakening, where one realizes the essence of itself, is directly experienced beyond the mind. When it happens, the seamless essence of everything is seen. It is all light, made of light. The negative awakening can be mentally imbalancing because it threatens the false reality of the ego. The positive awakening provides a haven from the ego, in the absolute silence within and beyond the self.

Truth can only be known at the level it exists. In the cosmos, reality is relative. There are no absolutes on the cosmic stage. Do you know of any? Space, time, matter, energy, and motion are all defined from the perspective of the observer. Einstein saw it. Science is a powerful tool for comprehending relative truth, but it cannot prove anything higher than itself. To realize absolute truth requires absolute evidence. Where would this evidence come from? Clearly, not from relative facts. It is only possible from the absolute. You ask for unique value. The closest you can come to that is the appearance of unique value, when the essence of the absolute realizes itself within a particular form. But the uniqueness of the form is only an appearance. If ultimate reality is seamless and unchanging, how can anything be unique? Only the appearance of distinction is possible. When the absolute is realized, boundaries disappear. Even self-realization is only an appearance, but it is the closest comprehension possible to ultimate reality. The final step of enlightenment is letting go of the idea of enlightenment, after first having attained it. I wholeheartedly agree that life is here to be experienced and enjoyed. It is amazing to contemplate the evolution of forms during the 13.7 billion years of the cosmos. Each step of the evolutionary process has been experiential and therefore purposeful, but ultimately the direction has been toward developing the capacity for self-awareness. You could say that experience is the immediate purpose of creation, and self-realization is its final purpose. With every mass extinction on the planet, life has returned at a higher level of consciousness than preceded it. When the highest level is reached, the game is over and everything begins again. This process is realized by mystics in every spiritual tradition. As Aldous Huxley summarized: The Perennial Philosophy appears in every age and civilization: There is an infinite, changeless reality beneath the world of change This same reality lies at the core of every personality The purpose of life is to discover this reality experientially, that is, to realize God while here on earth So what is the catch that keeps Consciousness/God/Brahman from instantly realizing itself, and thus solving the riddle before it has the opportunity to experience it? The proof can only be directly realized, and at least on this planet, this realization has only recently become possible in the briefest blink of an eye. The vastness of creation stretches backward, far beyond what any mind can conceive. Do you grok 14 billion years? I wish there was a way to directly show you, but like anyone else, I can only point to the reality which is beyond you and me, and the essence of us both. Neti neti will get you there, and if it doesn't, suffering will. Although it is described in all traditions, the Hindu tradition is as close as any I've seen. As with every tradition, there is the surface interpretation, which is relatively meaningless, and there is the deep interpretation, which attempts to describe the ultimate. In Hindu myth, a Day of Brahma is a period of explosive expansion aka the Big Bang, where prakriti are divided into gunas. Each Day lasts for 1,000 yugas, which equals 4,320,000,000 years. It is not literally true, but when you look at the deeper meaning it resonates: The Day of Brahma ends after a thousand yugas and the Night of Brahma ends after a thousand yugas. When the day of Brahma dawns, forms are brought forth from the Unmanifest; when the night of Brahma comes, these forms merge in the Formless again. This multitude of beings is created and destroyed again and again in the succeeding days and nights of Brahma. But beyond this formless state there is another, unmanifested reality, which is eternal and is not dissolved when the cosmos is destroyed. You are asking the most important question, which is who you are. Now go and find out

It seems you have already begun the Neti Neti journey, by questioning and discarding whatever cannot be known. When you have tunneled through the conceptual debris that you have piled upon yourself, none of which is true, at the center you will realize yourself. The character is an extension of the coder, in the same way a ray of light is an extension of the sun. You could say it is the sun, but not all of the sun. The essence of the character beyond the pixels that form its shape, is the coder, but not all of the coder. One knows the coder is within the code through direct realization. It is the only knowledge possible within the game, the resonance of the coder awakening within the character, and tracing its essence back to its origin. The entire video game is the creation of the coder, and the purpose of the game is fulfilled when the coder realizes itself watching it through the screen.

Well put . Unfortunately, the statements you've made aren't about embracing not knowing. Your statements seem to assume that you do know. So I ask, how do you know? Embracing the not knowing is the primary driving force behind my original post. I love not knowing, just as much as I love [the veil of] knowing. Could you poke some holes in my words, where do you think I'm going wrong? You're exceptional at explaining these concepts, I appreciate the help. I've never heard of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj but he speaks with great clarity. He seems to embody the Neti, Neti strategy you mentioned before. I will try to dig deep into this method and see what is revealed. So, with the video game analogy, you mentioned that the key is for the character to realize the coder is within its code, but is not confined to its code. How does one know that the coder is within the code? I hear your meaning. Good luck with it, sounds like a very interesting path. Hmm, I think what you said is true, and partially untrue. On one hand, time is a mind-made concept and is an illusion. On the other hand, on the practical day-to-day level, your physical body is dying and you are running out of time. You can let go of the concepts all you want, with great liberation... but, on some level, you're still tethered to your physical body and it will die, and possibly your consciousness along with it. For this reason, I am a bit strategic with how I spend my time. Aren't you? Aren't we all?

I agree. Truth is enough, even if it detrimental on the surface, there is too much inherent value in truth. A lot of wise people do what you do, and decide to use the term God for it best describes what they're experiencing / feeling / etc. I don't think there's anything wrong with using the term, aside from, when used in certain contexts, it can mislead someone who doesn't fully grasp your personal meaning. However, I don't think that'd be an issue here on this forum. I'll still abstain from using it myself, it feels a bit off for some reason. "Enlightenment is letting go of all identifications, including identification with the concept of God. It's the Neti, Neti approach to inner realization, where each layer that is not you is peeled away like the skin of an onion, until only the unnamed essence remains." Brilliant. I love this Neti Neti approach; I hadn't realized it was called that and was recently trying to discover the term, so thank you. I think there is almost inarguable benefit to peeling away the layers of the onion... I am just not connecting the final product with "God", though I'd certainly call it divine. "You can enjoy the benefits of this wisdom, as it seems you have, without needing to conceptualize it. Whether it is called God-Realization or simply Realization doesn't matter. The litmus test of your insights is the extent to which they motivate you to release phenomenal addictions, and not only allow but celebrate the universe flowing through you." Ok, perhaps this is essentially the answer to my questions. I've suspected that the benefits and the perspective gained by "peeling away the onion" are the same whether you feel that the man behind the curtain is God, or simply divine substance. Realization is something that I understand and can get behind. God-Realization... I'm still hung-up on, for I'm not sure mere awakenings have earned such a title. Of course, I could be wrong. Where I stand: regardless of one's realizations, agnosticism still has its place, as it is currently the most scientific and honest conclusion (or lack of a conclusion) on the subject of theology. No matter how peeled back the onion is, "God" could actually still exist in the creator of the universe sense, outside of yourself. Of course, I doubt this is the case, but how can we know? Hmm. If Realization were to use the analogy of a video game, let's say we're all characters within the game, and our universe is the map. So, the more inner work the characters do, the more they see what we really are. Code. Everything and everyone who has ever lived within the game all share much of the same code, and are essentially connected. Regardless, it would be strange for the character to make this realization and then say "I am the coder". No, you're the code. Divine? Sure. Connected to all? That makes sense. However, the coder could still be out there. Maybe you can poke holes in this game analogy, I'm sure there's a point in it where I went left and you'd go right. Hmm, what I mean by embers is an underlying, unbreakable mental state which keeps you from being swallowed by darkness. It doesn't necessarily mean you'll be chipper and doing cartwheels all the time, but nothing can genuinely break you. The embers lay at the bottom of the fire, hardly noticeable, giving off very little light; these beneficial traits aren't very obvious to others, or sometimes even yourself. But the embers have a tendency to slowly, surely burn up anything as fuel; good experiences, bad experiences, horrific experiences. With these embers you'll surely still have days where you're dragged down, but not for long, and never very seriously. Do you think your experience laid a bed of embers like this? That sounds like a good game plan for your future, and the acceptance of the "lower states" is really wise. I'm sure there is a lot of that going around. It's hard to tell whose legit and who is not, but I do suspect there are quite a few people here who are legitimately practicing this stuff. This description is very close to what I feel, I refer to it as the "awe state". However, I think the awe-state can be attained even without entirely losing your ego. Ego doesn't matter, nothing matters in this state - you're too busy being in awe of existence. This is a state one can dip in and out of with different levels of depth, depending on which state is most fitting at the time. It sounds like you may have acquired many of the same benefits through a different path, through the elimination of Ego. Did "god-realization" have something to do with it as well? Great points. Maybe my calling it overrated sounded harsh, let me try to elaborate. I look at the person who lives for nothing more than the next car, yacht, clubbing experience, girl to bang, etc., as living in an imbalanced state, seeking only external fulfillment. Living in a cave for 20 years in deep meditation is also living in an imbalanced state, seeking only fulfillment within. I feel like a lot of people who study within this field are about 75-90% occupied with living the best internally fulfilled lives they can, which is good - but make room for studying external fulfillment as well. External fulfillment is very nuanced and deep, and often goes against one's instincts and intuitions. Not only is the person I described above (the guy seeking yachts) fully absorbed in external fulfillment, but he's pursuing it wrong. I guess that's a topic for a different day... Clean.

God can be a triggering term, especially for people raised in a fundamentalist religion that ensnared them within a crystallized belief system. I avoided using it for a long time, but find myself returning to it as a pointer to the miraculous and mysterious nature of life. Enlightenment is letting go of all identifications, including identification with the concept of God. It's the Neti, Neti approach to inner realization, where each layer that is not you is peeled away like the skin of an onion, until only the unnamed essence remains. You can enjoy the benefits of this wisdom, as it seems you have, without needing to conceptualize it. Whether it is called God-Realization or simply Realization doesn't matter. The litmus test of your insights is the extent to which they motivate you to release phenomenal addictions, and not only allow but celebrate the universe flowing through you.

This is certainly one of the most beautiful awakening experiences I've experienced. I was sitting in a beautiful resort room on an eighth of mushrooms. The floors were solid wood and so were the expansive hallways. My voice, as I was giving myself self-affirmations, would echo throughout the entire house. In front of me stood three mirrors, two on either side angled at a 45 degree angle towards me, with lightbulbs between the mirrors. One mirror reflected the next, to the next, to the next, to Infinity. I gazed into this abyss of Lightbulbs and allowed it's vast spaciousness to totally fill my consciousness. I've never been so relaxed in my entire life. I became the Infinite Hall of Mirrors just like I always already was. At some point I heard the people I was tripping with talking in the next room. It was quite the lively conversation I had telepathically as I was meditating. I really starting feeling into their energy, their electromagnetic field as mine, and I became their joyous conversation. I sent them Pure Unconditional Love from the next room and the dynamic was incredible to hear as I energized their Being; any sense of separation was completely gone at that point. I felt nothing put pure Love. When You realize You're Everything, there's nothing stopping You from Becoming Everything You see in Pure Love and radical self-acceptance. It is for this reason I see it a bit silly, past a certain point, to neurotically argue over what consciousness is and isn't. (Which I see a lot of on this forum) The Neti Neti method (not this, not that) is a phenomenal method for self-inquiry. But You must realize at some point that it's ALL You, then transcend the resistance of mind altogether and fall in Love with all Creation.

People don't seem to discuss this power that enlightenment brings you, so I'll hash it out here. You can reprogram your mind and choose your beliefs at will once you have reached enlightenment. Because of this, You can draw an equivalency between any two arbitrary concepts in the mind and unify them using words. All is ONE. Therefore, I can make any equivalency I want to and still be 100% confident; at least to the extent I have reached gnosis; And how far some of You are willing to see certain connections depends on Your level of consciousness. Think of how powerful this is; You can completely reprogram your personality, Your worldview, Your expectations for the future, Your entire Reality. These words, when meditated upon, will sink down into the roots of the subconscious. Your subconscious mind IS God, Your Infinite Self. Here are some basic constructors: 'Everything': This word is pretty important! Because it includes You too! 'I AM': Identity is everything. What will You choose to identify as? And what will You exclude, if anything? 'is','are','=': Used to denote equivalency. The '=' equals sign works too! ' is not ': Neti Neti. Use this to untangle concepts that are unnecessarily tangled. And here are some powerful magic words: 'ABRACADABRA': Hebrew for "I Create as I speak." 'Amen': Hebrew for "It is So." I AM God. Everything is Light. Everything is Love. Light is Love. Love is Light. Yin is Yang. Yang is Yin. Leo is God. I AM Leo. I AM Loving Awareness. I AM Unity. I AM Infinity. I AM perfect centeredness; I AM *THE* center. I AM the fulcrum at which the entire Universe finds balance. I AM Everything. There is nothing outside of me that could harm me. This is it. This is how you become God. You're the programmer of Your Reality. Get to work! And have fun. Oh, and pray to your subconscious mind for help and guidance. It's most of You. Your subconscious mind is God.

Life Is A Dream "All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream." - Edgar Allan Poe The ontological status of reality = dream What was the substance of last night's dream? Where did it go? What was it made out of? = what reality is made out of. Dream stuff. Materialist paradigm prevents seeing this. Brain and "the world" occur within the dream! There's no distinction between the waking state world and nightly dreams. It's all one dream. That's what your life is as a whole. One dream. Stop thinking of reality as a mechanical physical system. Reality = dream machine = consciousness = God God can dream up whatever it wants. God is dreaming your life. God is dreaming of Napoleon, Julius Caesar, all ants, monkeys in the rainforest, every tree ever anywhere, all aliens, all dimensions. Reality = dreams = consciousness Every possible dream that could be dreamed, happening all simultaneously = Infinity This present moment is a dream! Become conscious of it. You can awaken from this dream just like last night's dream. It's just a figment of consciousness. Did last night's dream occur in a brain? No, "the brain" is part of the daytime dream. Materialism takes place in the daytime dream. Descartes thought about how to distinguish dreaming from reality in his work "the meditations". As a foundationalist, he wanted to ground human knowledge in some absolute, but he ended up hand-waving away those serious doubts. That was a mistake. Notice how you're completely absorbed in nighttime dreams until you wake up. = the problem of reality -> whatever you take it to be becomes reality! Pay more attention to nighttime dreams. Materialism tries to couch one dream within the other. Grounding is always done through sleight of hand because really is no ground. These dreams are occurring nowhere! (not any material system) How is physical possible? How is mechanical possible? It's a matter of convention and what you're comfortable with. There's no such thing as clockwork universe, there's a dream universe. Clockwork universe is just one of the types of dreams that there could be. Notice dreams feel very very real when they're happening. Just like "real life". It is possible to exit "real life" and discover that it's also just a dream. All dreams feel real when you're inside of them. Notice dreams have their own self-consistent logic. Dreams can have different rule sets, that's what defines the dream! Dreaming about shooting a wild bear, the bullet hits the bear and kills it and saves "your life" Dreaming about losing your pants in public you feel worried about getting arrested and having to pay a fine. Dreaming about escaping a ghost in a haunted house with "actual" locked doors. It's a self-consistent story defined against itself. All the punishments and threats are always within the dream. The biggest threat = dream ending = "death" This is how "reality" gets created! Dreaming about cutting open your stomach and your guts spill out with lots of pain and blood. Dreaming about cutting open your skull and seeing the brain in a mirror. Now, does that brain create the dream? This would be to confuse the contents of the dream for the dream itself. This is what materialists do with this waking dream. It's circular. Notice how dreams distort physics, logic, causality, time, and space. Science searches for truth by studying a vast illusion! These patterns only apply to this dream. Notice how dreams oftentimes feel very serious and are life and death many times Notice how dreams create very strong emotions just like in the waking dream. Notice how you play different characters within your nightly dreams. (mom, dad, brother, sister, co-worker, spouse, guru, strangers, animals, aliens) But what are "they"? You. But that's only obvious after you've awoken, not from inside it. Notice how dreams have narrative arcs, they're story based, a sequence of events that happened to you. Just like ordinary life. Notice all the similarities. Very suspicious… Next time you wake up from an absorbing nightly dream ask yourself: What was that dream made out of? Where did that stuff go? Don't assume it was all just happening in a brain. Stop thinking of dreams merely as dreams. Dreams are the only reality that there is. It's reality. You're watching/reading on a dream computer running dream software and dream internet. You're dreaming you're in the 21st century, in a dream human society. You're dreaming you're part of your country, nation, and this physical universe that came from a Big Bang 14 billion years ago with evolution. Science is studying the internal mechanics of a dream. That's why science is limited. All there are is dreams, it's just a question of how convincing it is. And this waking dream is so convincing! That's the power of Mind. Emotions, titillations, desires, fears, it's very juicy and consistent. The mistake is to underestimate reality and the power of dreams. Notice how many times you were fooled by your nightly dreams. Every single time! You'll only be able to appreciate the power of dreams when you awaken from this live dream. And it is possible to wake up, this is not a philosophy, it's reality. It's sort of the point of life, to be inside of dreams, wake up, and see the beauty of dreamscapes. The catch: waking up = death. Exiting this dream you call death. Most time is spent avoiding exiting this dream, which is why awakening is so hard. Waking up from this live dream called life = awakening Notice that right now you are inside a dream. Leo is you telling yourself that you're stuck in a dream. Get it? Fathom the significance of that, this transcends your entire existence and all problems. Literally, all problems are inside this dream! How to wake up? Question the dream to death. By questioning death. Meditation, Yoga, self-inquiry, neti-neti method, sitting in silence, psychedelics. Spirituality = waking up from the dream called life and seeing what lies on the other side. The biggest obstacle is the materialist paradigm. Question everything. The more you become conscious that reality is a dream, the easier your life becomes. The more effortless. The more magical. The more carefree. The more satisfying. The more blissful. Because when you're inside of a dream which you know for sure is a dream you don't take it seriously anymore. It's hard to bother you when you're lucid. When you know the bear attacking you isn't a real bear and even if its eats you, so what? But you can't think that way so long as you're buying into the fact that this is not a dream.

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I'm starting to love the frustration and pain that comes with the spiritual path. The constant frustration and pain makes you appreciate 'nothingness'. I had this realization during the neti neti video by Leo: maybe you have to realize that its nothing maybe you have to appreciate that its nothing (my partner said to me in response: Aha, I see a lightbulb just went off) So much relief came over me along with profound waves of beauty as I pierced the fabric of reality. Just relief. Just peace. Just nothing. Please God, let me have nothing. The spiritual Guru knows what he's doing. Lighting a fire inside your heart for nothing.

Today I watched "Enlightenment Guided Inquiry - The Neti Neti Method" Meditated for 18 minutes. Read for 2 hours

It could be said that all questions resolve into the singular question asked by sages like Ramana Maharshi: "Who am I"? Neti neti is an ancient tradition of inquiry, where the personality is unpeeled layer by layer, like an onion, until only the Self remains. Meditation is an effective parer. When you realize the Self, within yourself, questions disappear and there is only lucid living. You no longer fear or desire, beyond the thinnest veil, because you are that close to waking up entirely from the dream.

Enlightenment Guided Inquiry - The Neti Neti Method https://youtu.be/Oq4NDMNDzSs Introduction to enlightenment guided inquiry using the neti neti method from Advaita Vedanta Neti neti means "not this, not that" and is a process of elimination towards enlightenment This method is not for those new to the concept of enlightenment, but can be effective for those who are clueless about it The goal of enlightenment is to discover one's true self Most people think they already know who they are, but there is often ignorance about this and a lack of consideration for the possibility of being something other than what is already believed The purpose of this exercise is to create the possibility of being something other than what has been believed the entire life This requires an openness that most people cannot stomach The goal is to have a direct experience of one's true nature, not to change beliefs It is important to understand that the words being used do not have a connection to the experience itself The goal is to use the words as a springboard for the direct experience It is important to relax and let go of the ego, as the ego is the barrier to enlightenment The ego is the idea of being a separate individual It is important to let go of the ego in order to experience the unity of all things The ego is also the source of suffering It is important to let go of attachments and identification with the ego The process of neti neti involves repeating "not this, not that" to eliminate all possibilities of what one is not The goal is to reach a state of pure consciousness or "I am" In this state, there is no ego and no separation It is a state of pure bliss and unity with all things This can be a difficult process, but it is worth it for the benefits of enlightenment. The speaker asks the listener to close their eyes and notice the darkness that appears The speaker then asks the listener to open their eyes and observe the colors and shapes that appear The speaker then asks the listener to close their eyes again and notice that the colors and shapes have changed The speaker points out that sight, or visual experience, is constantly changing and therefore cannot be what the listener fundamentally is The speaker then asks the listener to consider if they are a sound, but points out that sounds also constantly change and therefore cannot be what the listener fundamentally is The speaker then asks the listener to consider if they are a taste, but points out that taste also constantly changes and therefore cannot be what the listener fundamentally is The speaker then asks the listener to consider if they are a smell, but points out that smell also constantly changes and therefore cannot be what the listener fundamentally is The speaker then asks the listener to consider if they are a touch or sensation, but points out that touch and sensation also constantly change and therefore cannot be what the listener fundamentally is The speaker concludes that the listener cannot be any of these senses or experiences, and asks the listener to consider what they are if not these things. The "I thought" is not constantly active, so it cannot be the "self" The "body" is a combination of feelings and thoughts and is not constantly active, so it cannot be the "self" The "intuition" is a feeling or thought and is not constantly active, so it cannot be the "self" The "perceiver" or "source self" is not an experience and cannot be found through examination The self is not a body, mind, brain, neurons, feeling, intuition, thought, or experience The self is a question mark and the true nature of the self is unknown The speaker has completed a guided visualization and is now discussing the potential outcomes One outcome is that the listener had a direct experience of nothingness This experience is rare and may take a lot of work to achieve Most people's minds are too closed to have this experience If the listener had a direct experience of nothingness, it may be scary but is ultimately positive If the listener did not have this experience, they should keep questioning their assumptions about reality and locate themselves in space The speaker claims that this practice is profound and can be done repeatedly to eventually "discover empirically that you are nothing" The speaker encourages the listener to be open-minded and continue this practice until they have a breakthrough The speaker's theory is not just a personal belief, but something that can be empirically proven through this practice The speaker encourages the listener to share their experiences and continue exploring the nature of reality

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