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If God can imagine conscious human agents, operating in a limited materialistic dream, why couldn't he imagine Alien agents, operating in their own alien playingfield? Heck, why couldn't he imagine being the playingfield itself, like being a reality engine server itself, that runs whole worlds/dreams? You say God is an infinite runaway ocean of dreams. No one controls it. But why couldn't it have holons within holons, subsystems within subsystems, that act as operating/governing priciples for parts of itself? Yes, in the absolute sense its infinite runaway all the way, but that doesn't prevent it to have structures within structures that are governing one another.

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My awakenings are supernatural and even beyond. Alien Consciousness is beyond anything humans even imagine as supernatural. It's super-supernatural. Human ideas of what's possible in the supernatural realm are very limited and prosaic. All that standard New Age mystical stuff. It's boring! Serious consciousness is beyond all that.

What You guys are mostly missing is that Reality is everything and anything, its Pure Potential, but You get stuck in an Ideology or a Grand Experience situation that You've had once or a thousand times, and try to reduce it logically and intellectually. Whatever You think Consciousness is, Human based or Alien Based, its all Possibility and Potential, no matter what other labels you create or situations... Absolute is One, One means ALL, ALL means Everything is Possible, so if Everything is Possible then Duality is Possible and has to exist, so here we are on this planet, but Your a Human with a Great Sense of Individuality, which in and of itself is Wonderful, but its not the Ultimate, its Not Absolute, Absolute does not have Individuality or Duality, just Potential, so we are here to work this out via Experience, Perception and Awareness so that we can if we strive and choose to "Experience this Absolute" while here and Embodied, we have basic tools provided to us (Intellect) so that we can survive in a world we are not physically superior in, so we need superior intellects, and now in this day and age we rule this world, but are destroying it because we are not Using any Awareness capabilities at all..

Perhaps he studies also on his own; I don't know. But I think it is possible that he can remember hundreds of his past lives and have contact with guides who can provide him with informations about reality, the world, the past, that other people don't have access to. There are psychic people all around the world. I believe that at least certain things he says are true in the sense that I don't have direct access to the informations he has - so at this level, it is a belief. But I don't think that the existence of psychic people, or that certain people can remember their past lives, is a belief, as their claims can be verified in this reality. It could also be possible to directly verify certain things Matias says (like go to Egypt and in the pyramids with him to see if something actually happens - to feel the energy inside and to see if/how it starts raining). Maybe also it could be possible to verify certain things about the ancient past or things about this planet by developping psychic abilities. Though, that would likely be very difficult. But who knows, sometimes people get psychic abilities after near death experiences or wathever. You saying "You being God is not a belief." is a belief 🙂 I partly agree with that - that it could be a belief for some people. At this point, I believe Leo when he says he has reached Alien Consciousness. In a sense, I think he would like others to understand or believe him about that too - or I misanderstood him. (I just had my own tiny experience of it two days ago, but that's it). I've also always believed him when he talked about reality and God, far before having my first awakenings. Was I wrong to believe him? I don't know. In the end, I checked that for myself. But in a sense, thinking that you are God is a belief until you've checked it for yourself (am I wrong, @Leo Gura). Still, I was not incorrect to believe it was true. Actually, I even knew prior to my experiences that it was true as my intuition was so strong. What's interesting about Matias is not just the pyramids, but all the aspects of reality he talks about that give understandings about reality and this planet on things we cannot see - which maybe could be verified by developping psychic abilities, among other things. The thing I agree here with though is that understanding God and Consciousness and how you are creating your own reality through direct experience is more fundamental than all this. But for me it's worth looking into those things still, as we are stuck on this planet there are certain things I want to know/understand, which psychedelics are not likely to give me answers on.

The issue is that you are framing existence as illusiory, or "imagined". That's because the perceiver has not been deconstructed. There is no mind, mind is just a form of existence which can be dissolved. Once that is done, there is no imagination, you simply recognize the nature of existence as what it is, changing and infinite. This however does not mean that existence does not relate to itself in certain ways. Your alien consciousness relation could merely be a dream, a neurological phenomena. An advanced AI could take your brain and it could stimulate certain parts of it such that you'd have an alien experience. It would understand how your brain relates to certain aspects of existence, how the particular expression of the wavefunction of the universe, or the geometric relations of universal existence, relate to these particular expression of infinitude. If you look at the brain as a particular relationship, and then the relationship between the brain and what you call "consciousness" as another relation, the assumption is that because the relationship that we call "brain" or "brain-activity" is limited (geometrically, mathematically, physically), it therefore means that what it relates to must also be limited in such a way. But this is no the case, you can have a limited number of neurons that interact with infinitudes. In an abstract sense, a neurological complexity of 2 neurons could relate to infinite space. You would assume that two neurons could only create so much "space". But two neurons can have a relationship with space, which is infinite, and the neurological complexity would then determine how sophisticated the separations are within this space. Full neurological activity would be infinite space (or better, total space), where as partial activity would be partial space. From the perspective of a human mind, totality of space (meaning, literally infinite spatiousness) is not common, so when this experience occurs, it seems so all encompassing, so total, that the mind deems it as "beyond the brain". But this is not beyond the brain, because your notions of what a brain can do/how it relates to other aspects of existence is naive and reductionistic. And infinite experience can be had with a finite relationship between different aspects of existence, that's what is being missed, because of a failure of imagination. I don't think you will ever experience anything outside of the informational landscape of your brain, not in this form of existence. The fact that you experience universal relationships from the perspective of a solipsistic object will only confirm to you, given you engage in full delusion, that this is the only object that can exist. Ergo, this hallucination is all that exists, because you are taking the hallucination itself as the prime and total arbiter of reality and existence. The solipistic nature of the object, given the investigation into it's own nature by means of realizing it's own existence, will necessarily lead you to conclude what you have concluded about reality. It is not a conclusion grounded in the absolute nature of existence, but rather your epistemic approach towards how to determine the nature of existence. In other words, because your epistemic framework has taken it's particular existence, which is all of existence that exists to itself, as the grounds from which to determine what can and cannot exist, the description of it's own nature necessarily would become the description of existence itself. Totality is simple what existence looks like, or is. Each individual aspect of existence is Total, but this feeling of totality is then projected as a concept onto the notion of reality itself. Notice that the feeling of totality is indeed a feeling, separate from the totality of any given aspect of existence.

This is interesting, Billy also said Jesus was an Alien what you guys think?

@Leo Gura I know you said a while back you wouldn’t show anymore live awakening videos due the backlash or derogatory responses or something along those lines. But just out of interest have you ever set up the camera and recorded yourself whilst then awakening to this alien consciousness? Then actually ran it back through to yourself and watching from your standard state of consciousness observing that and the sorts of ways you may be trying to explain it to yourself during the awakening with what your saying to yourself and how your acting or whatever it is you may be doing in that state?

Right but the alien consciousness stuff and alien language and whatever and your perception of it being some deeper intelligence could literally just be a dream delusion made up by your very human mind. Given the nature of psychedelics you could delude yourself this content is somehow mapping onto existence in a way that it simply does not. I sometimes have dreams that are more real than reality. Normal dreams, where I can lucidly and clearly see I see everything around me in a level of detail and vividness that I don't experience during waking life. There is all kinds of things my brain alone can do without any deeper necessity for some sort of consciousness expansions. We know this because we now have technology that can do the same. In fact we'll probably be able to record these dreams soon given advances in technology. The problem with psychedelics is that they do the opposite of deconstructive work. While they have a deconstructive component, they also will make you severely overconfident and susceptible to convincing yourself of any given intention you have set for yourself. In my view the alien stuff you experience is literally just a dream that you brain is generating, and we'll have prove of this sooner or later. There is nothing magical about this, otherwise you'd be able to use that intelligence to solve any type of real world problem. But the convenient thing is you can't solve shit with it, for whatever made up reason. The thing about psychedelics is that they will give you a SENSE and FEELING of deeper meaning, deeper "realness" and so forth. But they can do so for ANYTHING at all that your consciousness can come up with, including any delusion. The feeling of deeper "realness" and deeper "meaning" is not deconstructed while on psychedelics, it is amplified. And a deconstruction of those feelings is necessary if you don't want to get captured by these simple egoic dynamics.

Well, at least let a crocodile bite your hand or something, if you claim to have transcended suffering. That might open my mind. Alien Consciousness is a lot harder to demonstrate than immunity to suffering. They just aren't alike. I wish I could demonstrate it, but then again I don't claim to be in that consciousness permanently.

@Leo Gura What kind of evidence would you consider a proof though? I think you know pretty well that some insight and achievements are so radical you cannot give a tangible proof of them. That's why i'm surprised by your attitude. Daily poeple challenge you attaiments and you obviously cannot give them a proof of Alien Intelligence, cause the evidence would be the experience you had, that you cannot transfer to any other. This seems to me like a double-standard in you thinking, unless i'm missing a peace of it and there is something i'm not awere of.

Maybe you find the following interesting: Hancock, Supernatural Spangler, Subtle Worlds: An Explorer’s Field Notes Ziewe, Jürgen. All books. Strassman, Inner Paths to Outer Space: Journeys to Alien Worlds through Psychedelics and Other Spiritual Technologies Vallee, Jaques. Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers. And Vallee, Dimensions. These beings & abduction-phenomena appear since prehistoric times, all cultures, all places, all centuries. Some have them with psychedelics, some without.

lol that's hilarious. Was the church Santo Daime? It's funny how the Christian aspect of these churches may be influencing their willingness to tolerate beliefs outside their norm. Nothing against Christianity, but that does seem to be common for them. Damn, that is so cool. It's interesting that you'd have a visionary experience with 5meo, because that is definitely not typical. You must be highly prone to those types of states. I've clearly felt the presence and communications of entities many time during pharma, but my experiences were nowhere near as powerful as yours sound. I think the line gets blurred when talking about aliens and multidimensional beings. They all seem to be beyond those limitations, and it would appear humans are the dunces who mostly can't take advantage of their innate capabilities. We're like majestic birds whose wings have atrophied, leaving us to walk in the mud our whole lives, knowing very little and getting most of it wrong. Quite mysterious what coarse of events led to this condition. I've been into the UFO/alien/entities topic for a long time, so I love talking about it when I get the chance. There doesn't seem to be much interest or belief in it here, but I guess that's to be expected. For many people, spirituality probably sounded weird at first too.

One of the things that has helped me cope with my health problems is that I know I can just reincarnate as an alien.

For me the bad side till now is the delay in releasing this Alien Course soon. I want to be alive to see it. Maybe try it. I waiting more for this than for the WW3 or Second Coming of Jesus hehe

@Rafael Thundercat it’s either alien consciousness or pick up lines 🤣🤣 he doesn’t care about any other subjects, oh the contrasts of reality

@Rafael Thundercat Leonarda 🤣 i can’t wait to hear about alien consciousness, he keeps talking about it but doesn’t spill the beans.

If Leo said he was in the brick of literally turning into an Alien, why not letting go of the Man Indentity and becoming a Woman, not by cirurgy but re-imagining itself into woman, Dna and all. Full META-morphosis. Good challenge hum. Hi.. Leonarda here.. Today we going to talk about.. Identity Transmutation.. Yes, I told you guys.. Alien Consciousness..

Leo changed my life and I wouldn't be where I am without him, but: Disregarding a lot of teachers and traditions as "rats", dismissing many aspects of developing oneself as secondary, as well as dismissing traditional enlightenment and going for trippy "alien consciousness". Maybe that's just my personal bias, but he does philosophy, not just spirituality, but doesn't give strong reasons and arguments, which are important for philosophy. too much emphasis on psychedelics, neglect of traditional spiritual practice. But hey, I appreciate how unique all of these "negatives" make Actualized.org, he refuses to follow a particular set in stone path or traditional framework, which is the strongest positive, and even if he goes wrong, it is still worth it, and it is obvious that he isn't interested in most of what I mentioned. as I said, dude changed my life, but at this point I have outgrown my need for him, he doesn't teach me anything new, but he taught me a lot of great things, particularly how to live a good life and good epistemology, which I can continue using for anything, as I have been getting into western and Arabian philosophy.

Correction: This is the actual Mexican Day of the Dead pizza. I may keep my initial Alien Intelligence pizza, whose skull and design are not human at all

Here’s a real equation for ya: Alien meth > human math

Thank you. 😆 Thanks, now I can't unsee it. I'll go for more classic styles then… I need my alien intelligence pizza (I'm unable to pick one… they all look intelligent).

Alien Intelligence Pizza: take a bite of this pizza and discover what it's like to have a hyper-intelligent mind - if you dare! The pizza has a flavor that is unique to the one who tastes it and makes you experience its unique intelligence… transcending the limits of human consciousness.

Definitions of standard math were made to correspond to empirical reality. You can easily have other kinds of math. You could make a computer world in which 1+1=11. It would be analogous to a non-Euclidean world. It would feels weird and alien and it would mind-fuck you because none of your intutions would work. Also, keep in mind that the human mind evolved to do math in and about our empirical reality. Otherwise it would be useless. You can have an infinite number of different kinds of logics.

I have mixed feelings about this post, and I do feel I disagree more with this: https://www.actualized.org/insights/child-prodigies-and-geniuses My reasoning is that even with good genetics, will power, drive, passion and desire goes a long way. Even if you started in a bad spot, just like in Unciv or in civilization 5 game, you had to make your first capital next to desert or tundra and some hills with little food points, maybe you lucky it's a coastal capital, and even if you settled on a hill next to a mountain and river tile, surrounded with green hills and grasslands for great growth and all that, I think it's the desire and will power and passion that drives and fuels that growth, population, production, gold generation, all that. I think to downplay that aspect for some alien level consciousness is both a bit reductionist and devalues humanity like that. It's a very subtle and sneaky way to argue for black pill ideology and to argue a nihilistic determinism there.