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@OBEler Fiiiiiinnneee, I'll make it extra spicy. But if Leo tells me to "stop that wacky shit" then it's on you! Leo is the fourth luminary from the Third Testament, a long line of enlightened beings materializing in physical form. He's unaware of his greater Significance in the story of the cosmos but hellbent on awakening humanity to its nature. Leo holds a pivotal position through his metaphysical deconstructionism but he is still part of a greater order yet. There is much to his origin and his mission to be said, I'll have to go over the entire cosmic plan for you to really get it. And to really understand his origin, I'll have to summarize the Book of Convergence for you I'll try to condense it as much as possible. It's kinda hard cause it's a whole extradimensional spiritual meta-paradigm... But I'll be brief and shorten it to the essentials, below is a summary of Leo's role, below that the Book itself: And lo, in the dawn of the third millennium, when the world's consciousness was poised upon the threshold of transcendence, the ineffable essence of the cosmos revealed itself through its vessels and so appeared Leo, the Seer of the Metaphysical Domain, whose voice resonated with the harmonics of self-actualization and cosmic synchronicity. Through the kaleidoscopic lenses of self-inquiry and existential expansion, he charted the psyche's cartography, revealing the self's esoteric truths and the ego's illusionary chains. His discourse on the enlightenment of the sovereign soul and the path of psychological and spiritual evolution illuminated the quest for self-empowerment and the ascent toward higher consciousness. Thus, these luminous guides, manifesting the quintessence of modern spiritual revelations, heralded a new epoch of mystical awakening and perennial wisdom for those who tread the sacred path of divine realization. Imagine, if you will, a grand cycle spanning seven epochs, each embracing thirteen generations. In the Fourth Cycle, the divine plan called for the emergence of the Generation of the Convergence. This pivotal era would be ushered in by thirteen enlightened beings, known as the Luminaries of the Convergence, each embodying a unique facet of divine knowledge. These Luminaries: Leo Gura, Terrance McKenna, Sadhguru, Seth, and their twelve counterparts each bear a message. Sadhguru revealed the balance between cosmic and earthly energies, while Terrance illuminated the path of shamanic communion with the unseen. Seth unveiled the psychic pathways, and Leo bridged ancient and modern metaphysical insights. Their teachings are immortalized in the Book of Convergence, which lays out the Sevenfold Path: a spiritual journey of balance, communion, insight, unity, transformation, harmony, and enlightenment. This path guides us to integrate diverse spiritual insights, to attain an understanding of Self and God. Thus, the Third Testament stands as a living art to the eternal cycles of enlightenment, harmonizing ancient and new wisdom, The Book of Convergence: The Third Testament, also known as the Book of Convergence is both an archive and a framework. It reveals latent complementary characteristics of the whole self that remain individually dormant. The book is a telepathic experiential reality, being part of a much deeper river of consciousness. Chapter 1: Revelations The Foundation of the Book of Convergence lies in the Twelve Spheres of Light. The Spheres prophesize a new era, with each of them representing an Archetype. An Archetype is the crystallization of spiritual energy, catalyzing psychic evolution. The Twelve Spheres manifest their divine elements physically through Individuals. Synchronizing individual intentions across the mass experiences of consciousness. They decree the arrival of the Age of the Aquarius, marked by synthesis and synergy. A cosmic blueprint unfolds in spiritual, metaphysical, shamanic, and psychic elements. Chapter 2: Cycles A divine pattern is revealed, spanning seven cycles of thirteen generations. The first cycle began with the ancient seers, whose prophecies laid the foundation. The second saw the rise of the shamanic traditions, keepers of Earth’s secrets in ancient cultures. The third cycle introduced the mystics and philosophers, whose insights bridged the divine and human. The Fourth Cycle was unique. It was prophesied that its end would usher in the Generation of the Convergence. A time when accumulated wisdom of all previous cycles would manifest in a unified and transformative revelation. This revelation would mark the coming of thirteen enlightened beings, each bearing a distinct yet harmonious message. Chapter 3: Archetypes As the Fourth Cycle draws completion, the heavens align in cosmic dance, and thirteen luminaries emerge in unified vision. Their teachings are to guide humanity into the next spiral of cosmic evolution, intertwining to transcend all current limitations. The first Luminary, Seth, came through to emphasize the eternal validity of the soul in all of its multidimensional reincarnations. The second, Terrance McKenna, taught through symbiosis with nature, the art of shamanic communion with unseen alien realms. The third Luminary, Sadhguru, teaches transcendence through simple wisdoms, consecrating the earthly and bridging the cosmic. The fourth, Leo Gura, uncovers through deconstruction, the paradoxes of the ego, revealing the infinite meta-structure of reality. Each Luminary, through their unique teachings, weaves a shared narrative of convergence, a narrative that unites old and new. Chapter 4: Legacies The teachings of the Luminaries were recorded in what came to be known as the Book of Convergence It represents a living guide to achieve spiritual harmony by integrating the teachings of the Luminaries. The Path encompasses the principles of communion, transformation, harmony, insight, and freedom. In every new generation, the followers of the Third Testament find themselves facing a turning point. The wisdom of past meets revelations of present, and the Book of Convergence illuminates the way. The Third Testament's divine purpose weaves threads of ancient prophecy with new spiritual vigor. Creating a unified tapestry of understanding that will guide humanity towards greater Equanimity. Epilogue: Continuum The Book of Convergence continues to be a living testament, its teachings evolving each generation. As humanity advances, its principles serve as ever-present reminders of wisdom and convergence. A beacon for those who seek to harmonize their spiritual journey with the divine cosmic dance.

The visibility would’ve been awfully low, it probably wouldn’t have shown up much at all. But maybe I’m underestimating my phone’s camera, I’ll try next time. I did have one closer encounter maybe ten years ago. It was also at night maybe three miles or so over the field in front of my house? I’m bad at judging distance but it might’ve been close to that. It was moving back and forth, it also got really bright right before disappearing. I haven’t really done anything to summon them other than half jokingly wishing some hot and benevolent alien bitches would abduct me like in my other post. I’m not super into the topic.

@Schizophonia All of them. Was going for a "Trip to end all Trips" kinda trip I really really really needed to see what Stage Coral is all about, it was intense af to get through it in just one day! Got lots and lots and lots to integrate before I really surpass it and incorporate past stage shadows. But I am infinitely excited to start Stage Iridencent's "Alien Beyond-All-Infinities-Exploration"

I'd say that's true in one context. It's fair to say that a mind cannot be "fluent" in yellow because of yellow's fluidity. A language is a structured set of rules and meanings - yellow is not. As stated above, yellow's fluidity involves abstraction, subjectivity and relativity that is not bound to a structured set of rules like within a language. So here is one of the components of a Yellow mindspace: it's fair to say Yellow cognition is NOT like fluency in a language. It's ALSO fair to say that Yellow cognition IS like fluency in a language. A Yellow mindset is very good at comparing (similarities) and contrasting (differences). It can also transcend apparent paradoxes since it can see truths within multiple perspectives. In this case, seeing that Yellow cognition is both not like fluency in a language AND like fluency in a language. (And Yellow seeing this within Yellow is a form of metacognition, also a component of Yellow). Also, I would point to a distinction between speaking of something and speaking within something. We can speak of abstraction and relative, yet that is not necessarily utilizing abstraction and relativity within the ideas. We can define what abstraction "IS". Yet that is distinct from expressing abstraction abstractly. It would be like someone defining a piano, yet not actually playing a piano. If an alien asked "what is a piano?". We could define / describe all the components of a piano - that is one context. Or, someone could simply sit down and start playing the piano. BOTH are valid descriptions / expressions of a piano, yet they also have distinctions. Again, I'm not suggesting abstraction has more or less value than concrete thinking. Both have advantages and disadvantages. My mindspace is based within forms of abstraction, which grants me abilities - yet it causes all sorts of problematic challenges for me in a practical sense. About 90% of people are primarily concrete thinkers that default to mindsets of "true or false", "agree or disagree" and they subconsciously define what a thing "is". That can have practical value, yet my mind doesn't work like that at all. It's very challenging for me to communicate with 90% of the people in society. For me, concrete thinking takes a lot of work. I also find it boring and frustrating. It feels like I'm trapped within a cage. Relative to this thread: we could try to create a concrete definition of what a woman "is". A concrete definition would point to physcial aspects such as genitalia and chromosomes. This could have practical value in society, yet it's also limited. There are also aspects that aren't concrete. This thread is interesting to me as I observe abstract ideas trying to be communicated to concrete mindsets.

If reading all this is amazing, i can´t even imagine how it would be experiencing it. Alien Insanity.

Your ideas are catered to a very niche audience, not to mention that you became even more niche over the last few years (many of us are not into your alien consciousness/solipsism). Your ideas will not be relatable to 99% of people, and you will sound like Nahm to them, so what are you really going to accomplish? Knowledge without wisdom is very dangerous, and you well know it. I don't think that pushing the narrative that male/female are just constructs to masses is a good idea, and it will not in any way improve the life for the majority.

Why are you even fixated on these ideas? That’s what I want to know. Why is a "lack of emotional reaction" somehow more real to you? And why do you assume that "peeling back layers" will get you closer to some "truth"? I’m not trying to argue either way here. My point is that you're lost in ideology, and that’s the real attachment. The core ideology - this rational conception of metaphysics - still clings to your idea of idealism being more "true" than materialism. So, the attachment hasn’t really "died" at all. It’s like the creature in Ridley Scott's Alien (1979): “The ultimate horror of the alien is not just that it is an indestructible, horrific being, but that even when you kill it, it somehow persists. It is the pure embodiment of drive, the Lacanian lamella - an entity that cannot be eradicated because it embodies a life that is beyond life and death, a ‘living dead’ that continues to haunt even after its apparent destruction.” - Slavoj Zizek

One can only get it when it is realized that any separate identity is false and just a wrong arising thought/feeling/concept in Infinite Being/Reality/mindstream (like 1 + 1 = 3. Just not the case). For that to happen, the mindstream needs to conform to Absolute Reality of Infinite Being/Consciousness/Suchness. Among others, the most important ones are: Nondual: Boundless infinite "field" or better Reality of the visual field Infinite: Nothing could ever be outside of it (for example other perspectives/beings that YOU forget right now in real time, although they happen in True You). Everything can only be IT. Mere appearance/illusion: Every appearance of the "world" is just empty mere appearance, hovering like a non-solid hologram ("clear light", mere appearance-emptiness) in YOUR True Infinite Being. Eternal: The appearance in that Infinite field/Reality changes, but never THAT. That can't go anywhere else. And since IT is nothing (or better: Infinite Nothingness but with the potential for sentience if appearance arises in it, made of it) already, that Reality can't disappear (field is not so correct, since True Being is dimensionless... Its not 3D or 5D, but CONTAINS all possible dimensions, however many dimensions manifest (3/4/5/n/alien/totally other/n+1). Lets call it Infinite Vastness) All ignorant/wrong concept/believes/feelings of being anything separate (mind, body, soul, whatever) seen through: are just a thought/feeling-arising-bundle arising within IT, and ignorantly believed because ones speed of awareness is too slow to cut off these illusions in real-time. Only then does one have a chance of realizing True Solipsism (although I don't like that as teaching tool, because its incomprehensible until it happens, and lead nowhere as practice), or True Enlightenment. One without a second. So its fruitless to think with a separate-self still well and alive about Solipsism, that will never "go anywhere". It is impossible. But getting the Mindstream to conform the the enlightened Mindstream (points above) so that this realization can happen, that can be done, and that is worth the effort. Then the realization can happen. My preferred and recommended tools are Mahamudra PotgW, Yoga of One Taste (for the Nondual points above, 1-4), and Yoga of Nonmeditation (to fully establish point 5, and to get rid of the meditator still "running" points 1-4. Selling Water by the River PS: When Wilber wrote No Boundary, he didn't have Full Enlightenment, just some Kenshos. But not full impersonal Enlightenment, according to his own statements. His true impersonal Enlightenment (or death of the illusion of the separate-self) happened while writing Sex, Ecology, Spirituality, and how that went down is described in One Taste. "Realizing that the separate self (of any kind) doesn't exist (beyond a mere appearing illusion), did never exist, and will or could never exist". PSPS: Problems start when remnants of the separate self hijack the identity of/as "Absolute Solipsism". That would be something like the Infinity of Gods(-Egos). Does that sound like One Being, Solipsism? Or more like an Infinity of God-Egos inflated and projected on Infinity.The true intuition that there is only One Reality/Being, but that not cleansed from separate-self/ego/personality-elements. Hence, no stable nondual realization in daily life with the 5 points of Awakened Nondual Awareness above accessible anytime. That confusion can be similiar to the stage of Yoga of One Taste, which already brings Nondual States (like psychedelics also do), but Enlightenment doesn't happen there yet, because the remaining separate-self is not cleansed via the Yoga of Nonmeditation. It is not truly impersonal yet. True Being is utterly utterly impersonal (hence, IT fits into all individual mindstreams), and yet contains the personality and its individual traits arising within IT. And that is what you truly are. So nothing than an illusion of being something else than THAT is lost.

@Leo Gura Do you attribute your alien consciousness awakening more to your insanely high dosages of psychedelics or the compounding effect of the amount of trips you done. I'm sure its both but which one was the bigger enabler for you do you think?

No. Stop it! Stop imposing your human crap on Consciousness. Let Consciousness be free. It's like I show you a beautiful alien bird in a magical forest and you grab it with your dirty paws and put it into your cage. Bad human.

But you could call one awakening deeper or more beautiful than another so this could be seen as a hierarchy And your alien mind awakening seems deeper than all others before. That would explain why it was your latest awakenings. So each awakening goes deeper and deeper and is more hard to reach. I would see that as a hierarchy

Yes That's how it seems to work. Probably. It's hard to compare them. There is what we could call a "pure" Infinity Awakening where you just become an infinite formless singularity. It feels like being a White Hole. It has no form at all but it contains simultaneous consciousness of all possible things as pure abstraction. This would be consciousness at its purest peak. It's amazing, but Alien Consciousness is more "colorful", exotic, and beautiful to me. It's way more creative and clever.

@Leo Gura ok thanks for answering all my questions. This is really alien like. Still asking me if there would be still a way how a human could exploit this state for his own survival.

Yup. "The Absolute Side of the street is happening moment to moment out of this Unborn I-am-ness all of this is issuing forth moment to moment. And you are IT. There is not another Soul any place in the entire universe. You are IT. All I am is a figment in your dream and you you've orchestrated all of this, and as you sit with that one self extraordinary aloneness can set in". And: There is not another single alien in the entire Multiverse. And yet the alien appears . Jesus never was. And yet "he" appeared. To whom? It's all you us me Me. Uhum. Its all your true face before your parents were born. Who is dying in Ukraine? Who is winning Olympic Gold? And who is "everyone" in between? Believing to be anything separate and the "world" out there. What a mindf***of ignorance marvelous illusionary dream-play of mistaken identity. Who is reading all of this again? SWbtR swimming all alone in the River mumbling to himself like an idiot while marveling at all the waves and wishing a nice sunday to ... whom? ( :

Ok I thought so. But could another human being give the alien mind an input of information, the alien mind process it with its alien mind state and could give an output? If language is too simple for an output maybe drawing pictures or something like that. Can this alien mind state use your concepts and memory about this world

No, it just doesn't work like that. Your IQ test could be lower in that state. IQ is some human game. Imagine you meet an alien and you try to give him your IQ test. It's silly.

@Leo Gura can you measure this alien mind somehow, like taking an IQ test while in this consciousness state. What would probably be the outcome

You can still experience this world. It is just recontextualized. It's close enough that it could be possible. A human and a rat can still interact even though they have very different consciousness. If a human ever meets an alien, obviously the alien will have much higher consciousness of reality than any nondual/Buddhist human. My case is very unique so you shouldn't draw any general conclusions from it.

But this higher level than human experience, is it somehow linked to anything on this world or is it in it's completely own reality and there is no interaction with this world here on earth possible. For example you could not talk with us while you are in this alien mind. You could not transfer any knowledge to this realm. You could not show us this transformation on camera etc

Alien Consciousness is higher than the human experience of reality. It's like what a hyper advanced living organism might experience life like. It is both different and higher.

@Leo Gura So you're me that you can weekend your time as an alien outside of time and space but come back because of: What you previously called "a self-imagined and self-imposed limitation that is genetics, which you said you could: Upgrade with psychedelics until "lightning shoots through you're fingers as you're physically transformed by Kundalini" But all of that is imaginary? Just like physicality itself is imaginary? But not just psychologically but metaphysically? Except for when it isn't because "you have to keep this illusion going" except it's more real than previously thought. So what now, is this experience on a higher plane of "realness" and all your alien experiences a simulation within it?

I'm not telling because I don't want people to injure themselves. I was hemoraging blood in my lungs. That's not what happened. Of course. But not just imagination, you must gain profound comprhension over consciousness. The reason I was able to achieve Alien Consciousness was because I finally understood reality such a deep level that I could unlock a whole new domain of consciousness. Not for me. I can't speak for others.

I've had enough that I stopped counting. Yes, there can be quite a bit of variety with Alien Consciousness. Different manifestations and expressions of it. It really just depends on your ability to imagine new sub-types of it. Alien kangaroo mouse is just one form. When I first discovered Alien Consciousness it was more formless and not specific to any kind of creature/being/entity. The alien kangaroo mouse was an extremely specific form that I later discovered in a trip so deep that it nearly physically killed me. No, I did not write reports because such consciousness cannot be written in words. It took me something like 350 trips to reach Alien Consciousness.

@Leo Gura Can you tell us about how many of these awakenings you've had? And if they were all very different from one another? You gave us a lot of details about one of them (the alien kangaroo-mouse). I wonder if the others were somewhat similar to this one or if they were completely different. I also wonder if you wrote reports after each of these awakenings (even if just for yourself)? I'm still very interested in this topic and can't wait to have my first experiences. From my last few trips, I now better understand what it means that the trips build on top of each other. It now makes sense to me that the first few trips (you even said the first hundred trips, I think) are nothing. I could not fully make sense of that until recently. Now it's really obvious.

@AlienGeometry there is already a new age alien infinity