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There are strong disagreement and strong resonation agreement within me which makes it interesting and i will go listen through. Well, perceived and judged as solid, stable healthy green, I have not investigated yet And it is also common pattern of yellow, seeing turquoise as green, spoke by yellow. We are also maybe confused that, highly developed yellow as turquoise, highly developed green as Turquoise. 5meodmt makes me just shut down all models and spiral dynamics thats all pointless, just love yourself, these models are not important But my ego comes back, no they are important, without those survival as individual and collective is difficult, in fact, these structures are crystalisation love. About Don Juan and main stream spiritual, i do not know about Don Juan, But I see that main stream spirituality, lets say green, really avoids darkness or negativity When we think about Aztec nonduality, from brutal ruthless empire, burning fellow humans from neighbour human farm to keep the Sun burning, Spirituality should not be just positivity and happiness, it can also be ruthlessness, ..when we embody nonduality, we are the master and slave, millions of jews and the facist leader (The Egg documentary in kurzgesagt Youtube channel). Dune, paul atreides gets tormented by the god ability he got, conflict is already designed Bhagavad Gita, when Prince Arjuna has to kill their fellow family and friends, teachers, he is tormented by the fate he is carrying. And supreme being kirshna, showing his true presence to arjuna, the many faced being, that soldiers are pushing themselves into krishna's mouth to let krishna devour them, telling that whether they die or not, their original essence of nature has not been changed, so Arjuna must do what he has to do, as a warrior. These stories adds nuanced into spirituality, what is conflict, what is violence and war? Especially between Aztect nondualism and Bhagavad Gita, and dune together, It tells me that "we should not fear the conflict, fear is the mind killer, through conflict, we can grow up, without fight, without conflict, universe will stop evolving and die" I feel, those stories as well, have something to tell about coral stage.

Yes. As a very experienced meditator with longterm-practice and seasoned in Awakening one can do two things a) completely shut off the thought-flow: A high-speed cut-off at the beginning stage of a thought-emergence. The thought doesn't look like a thought in this earliest emergence phase of it, more like a ripening "seed" that is cut off. Lots of training until that point... And to continue that high-speed-cutoff of emerging thought "capsules" can stop the thought-flow completely. Until having had it, hard to imagine. b) second, and much more important: Staying lucid while thinking, "riding" with ones awareness on the thought-stream. Pretty impossible to describe, stems partly from the ability to do a) . That skill allows to carry the meditation/awareness into daily life. It also causes (due to its momentum in daily life more so than a), since one cant act/work without a thought flow running) the Awakened States of nonduality/one with the visual field, mere appearance (solidity of visual field removed), timelessness (time is imagined right here in THAT), boundlessness (any limit would be imagined in THAT. All of the states that psychedelics also cause. But "without the pill". And it also it cuts the separate-self-contraction in the head which just dissolves, opening up a flow of bliss that is so strong to just overpower the suffering that the remaining separate-self tends to cause in cycles. These are "hard" states of consciousness, not some wishful thinking or some soft states. The separate-self/ego main-building block is regular suffering/being unsatisfied, rejecting or wanting something that is not present in that state, seeking it, getting it or not getting it, and suffering again. Water by the River

There is the human mind. And then you can transcend that into alien mind territory. All conventional spirituality, like Buddhism and nonduality, are all still part of the human mind territory. They do not access alien mind no matter how much enlightenment or cessation or samadhi or ego loss they have.

The good vs. bad ego, as you described, aren't "good" and "bad" -- they are both bad. One is only "good" from a certain type of morality (Christian?) They are both bad from an Aristotelian golden mean kind of outlook. If you're a narcissist, that's bad; if you're committing suicide because you're too sensitive, that's bad too, from that viewpoint. They are both extremes. Firstly, the "ego" is simply that which we think we are; they are traits we identify with. This is morally neutral, although MOST of the time, we think whatever we are is good or right. Nonduality moves along the process of integrating the shadow, that which we tend to disidentify with. It can occasionally be considered good, but most of the time we think of it as bad. We tend to project it onto others or repress it. The endpoint of spiritual development is a yin-yang kind of integration of the two, where we discover that we were wrong all along in associating the shadow with evil (the case most of the time.) We drop the negative association and see it as a necessary part of ourselves.

Leo doesn’t teach nonduality anymore. He teaches all of the traps of it.

One time I used a well renown book for an essay while I was in college on a topic completely unrelated to anything we talk about here. The topic, while for a class, also was a topic I loved to study at that time. I posted the entire essay on a forum and and few members corrected a part of my essay I got from that book and after doing research it turns out the book was wrong and they were right! This particular thing I got wrong was something I had no knowledge of due to to it being a subtopic that I really didn’t dive into or read about until then. Not making excuses at all, I still read. That has set in a bad way with me though. Especially when one realizes books are written by people who have biases and their own agendas. There’s always criticism of another person for whatever book so I take things as more of an opinion than fact which is why sometimes it may be better to do videos of what multiple “experts” are saying to get a clearer understanding on a certain subject within a subject. For instance in nonduality, for example, I’ve read Jed McKennas “The Damndest Thing” and I’m sure there’s some people here that disagree with his position. When I have to do my own research on a book I give them the same grain of salt I do to any other form of information.

@CARDOZZO Of course, because I'm here reading and posting in this thread, and because you already know I don't like Lex Fridman, you set up this both siding fallacy , and moot and bailey fallacy between Andrew Tate and Lex Fridman to sneak in a passive aggressive statement against me, but just to let you know you're blocked so you can ditch the passive aggressiveness towards me. And Lex Fridman, is better compared to Tate I agree, however he himself isn't innocent as well: @Leo Gura is much better than these two combined because: He engages with philosophical thinking seriously. He has been a life coach, and created the life purpose course that keeps on getting higher and higher values the more times you engage with the exercises. He also has collected booklists of high quality and range of subjects, yes they cost money to access but the potential value in each book is millions of dollars in returns. He makes long form high quality videos covering a wide range of topics such as sexuality, some business and career advice, relationships, basic self help concepts, philosophy, health and few points of fitness, metaphysics, epistemology, spirituality, concepts of nonduality and more advanced spirituality, infinity, god realization, psychedelics(a major contribution that makes him really stand out IMO), some dangers to taking concepts or actions too far. He can out speak and out perform Lex Fridman and Andrew Tate in motivational speeches and can improvise whilst talking in long formats, meanwhile Lex Fridman and Andrew Tate have to rely on jump cuts and edits. He has created and maintained a high quality forum and has strict standards here that rivals the two, as they never have created any websites with honor. WAY MORE integrity and discipline than Lex and Andrew combined. How is it acceptable to compare Leo to Andrew Tate or Lex Fridman is crazy, he's on a whole other dimension in value provided than the two could ever match up to.

Trying to find peace knowing it isn’t real is what nonduality and Buddhism is teaching. Be careful not to fall into those traps

Alien Consciousness is God. It's an Alien Consciousness because it's not human. Human spirituality is exactly that...human....i.e., it's Buddhism or Janeism, or Nonduality...human projections, nothing of which pertains to Alien Consciousness. Once you live as Being all that other crap dissolves.

So I've been reading his book called: Entheogenic liberation: unraveling the enigma of nonduality with 5-meo-dmt energetic therapy and also have read half of his book called Being Infinite: an entheogenic odyssey into the limitless eternal: a memoir from ayahuasca to zen. As well as Leo's interview and some of his youtube videos. My reflection has been the following: it's obvious that Martin understands all ins and outs of the 5-meo experience and has a lot of experience with entheogens and specially 5-meo-dmt. However, it's clear for me that he's not awake, I mean he got it right in the bigger picture: I am God and everything is God, all is the one, non duality and crazy levels of love. However, he does not understand Reality, infinite Consciousness or have experienced the insane levels of Awakening that Leo talks about. This really leaves me puzzled in regards of how should I use psychedelics and specially the 5-meos for Awakening and God. If such a sincere and honest individual like Martin with tones of experience has not been able to progress that far, what makes the difference in terms of awakening with psychedelic substances? What have you done different from everybody else Leo? It also really discomforts me his strong attitude against spirituality, religion, metaphysics, beliefs and systems but then comes out with his own system, metaphysical assumptions and a way of doing non dual therapy based on bilateral symmetric movements and the liberation from the energetic prison of the ego. Maybe it all depends in what we are interested in. I don't know if I'm that interested in the liberation of the ego, but I know I'm interested in Truth and I have not experienced myself as God, but if that is the case I'm also interested in going to the deep end of my Godhood.

For example i am often looking at different websites, reddit, dating apps, nonduality videos, Ukraine videos and go back and forth etc etc i‘m not really sure what i‘m seeking or trying to avoid, i guess just trying to avoid boredom or trying to find „something better“

Yeah, I consider myself non-binary. I don’t exclusively fit in a masculine or feminine role. I’m still working on that aspect of myself since religion taught me that you can’t explore gender and nonduality taught me to not be a person.

Leo bitchslapped a lot of my nonduality out of me the other day. and then I had the following insight. for a philosophy that claims to be the antidote to suffering, is nonduality even a particularly beautiful or inspiring narrative? Wouldn’t it be more beautiful to retain your individuality? fuck being assimilated into the singularity. I want to explore the multiverse….

When you realize nonduality is a farce

everything is cope religion is cope, materialism is cope, spirituality is cope, nihilism is cope, nonduality is cope, addiction is obviously cope. LYING is probably the biggest cope. the amount of lies I tell is disgusting, I should vomit. the first lie I remember telling is when I said my favorite Star Wars movie was A New Hope, even though my actual favorite was Return of the Jedi. I thought my older cousins would judge me for loving the ewoks or some bullshit. I feel like a sewer rat covered in sludge. but I can’t allow myself to fall into self loathing, because that would just be more cope. everything short of taking absolute, 100% responsibility for every aspect of life is cope. I chose this, all of it. fucking all of it is my creation. I am actively creating hell for myself.

@Leo Gura Will you talk about limitations of buddhism, nonduality and spirituality in general in your new course or future videos?

Half-baked or partial understanding of a situation. The problem isn't that science, nonduality, and Buddhism are outright false. It's that they are dangerous half-truths. The devil does not fool you with falsehood, he fools you with half-truths.

nonduality says what reality is not. is not two. Well, once you realize this, that's when you start to go deeper into yourself, that is, into reality. It's just the beggining Buddhism i would say that it point much deeper, to realize the essence of reality, to truly open to yourself.

I've indirectly covered nonduality is many videos. Nonduality is not false per se, it's just not a very deep consciousness.

Nonduality is more than theory but less than AWAKENING

I remember joining the forum, and in my first thread being scolded by Leo for referring to the nonduality "theory". How dare I put the two words together, as if nonduality could be anything but TRUTH? Lesson learned: look to yourself for TRUTH.

I agree. Awakening is realizing who you are, and for most people it happens over and over again. Enlightenment is remaining awake within the dream. Lucidity deepens the more you dissolve. @Water by the River The challenge of marketing spirituality is that you constantly have to oversell yourself. Your paycheck is only as good as your latest, most profound insight. What comes after nonduality > alien intelligence > infinity of gods? Instead of selling water by the river, teach people to draw living water from within themselves.

@Ash55 Buddhism is obsessed with peace and nothingness so it is quite limited and shallow. Traditional Nonduality is not deep and direct enough but it is still way better than buddhim.

That’s nonduality for you!

Why does it matter whether an insight is true, if you don't integrate it? You can chase insights your entire life, and continue suffering in delusion, or you can integrate the truth of who you are and become free. Attachments are bondage, and lead to suffering. If you don't realize this, you aren't awake or AWAKE. I'm not a Buddhist, or a believer in any dogma, including nonduality.