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mivafofa replied to blueplasma's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Windappreciator lol I'm not an alien and I don't have the power to cage up humanity. But my theory is already put into test with veganism alone -
On a practical note, it sucks to suck, and I want to enjoy my life. I want to be able to help human beings and have a positive impact on life here. Below I’ve written what my answer is if we are not considering practicality. If I don’t assimilate the consciousness and power of all Existence into my conscious control, my avatar can’t have the highest stats. I don’t want to lose my first inter-dimensional PvP match to some machine elf, alien, or obscure deity. I’d like to create the first serious competitor to the Dao in order to break up this unhealthy monopoly in the marketplace of Existence. I’d like to be worshipped as the God of Madness, or simply Madness itself, in all possible timelines and realities. My favored weapon in battle would be picked before each fight by a random number generator. Option #42 would be a perfect replica of Mao’s genitalia made of fool’s gold called “Ze DONG” for example.
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Scene cuts to Peony entering the main hall of the palace. A large hall adorned by pillars and chandeliers. Such beauty and wealth. Peony is a poor woman raised in poverty. Such wealth is alien to her. She cannot even make sense of why a rich royal like Jagat has set his eyes on her when he can have a bevy of rich ladies waiting to for a chance with him. But Jagat won't let go..
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r0ckyreed replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thank you for your time and detailed response! It makes much more sense now. Thank you! So on the one hand, there is a way that reality actually is and the way we imagine it to be. So for example, earth is round from outer space but appears like a plane from earth perspective. What I did wrong was I confused objective truth for relative truth. So flat earthers are wrong about the earth being flat from space relative to their perceptions and sensations. If an alien looks at earth from 7D and sees it as flat and I am in 3D seeing it as round, then we would be both “correct” and no perception in this case is more valid than others relative to survival. If the human who sees in 3D and is on a planet in 7D, their perceptions won’t match with the survival needs of those in 7D in this hypothetical. So assuming we all perceive reality in the same dimension, a flat earther would see a similar social constructed spherical shape, dictated by our culture as spherical and round. The flat earther would be fooling themselves if they denied their perceptions that the earth appears spherical when it is. But the Alien in 7D May see our earth completely different and not spherical at all. Maybe aliens see shapes totally different like you mentioned in the Cat and Boop example. And to a blind man, the earth is neither flat nor round in the experiential perspective. Shapes and colors do not exist visually to a blind man and shapes are relative to how we define shapes. Thanks for your response and I plan on contemplating this a bit more and I will reread your post again to add more clarity to my contemplation and to make sure I am getting this and not confusing or deluding myself. -
Mafortu replied to Eternal Unity's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It as a nice read, but ultimately this is just another one in a large pile of theories I have already read about alien life and their machinations. For the record, I hope you are wrong and they do make the obvious entrance most of us hope for, humanity needs a reality wake-up. -
Of all the questions submitted by you who interact with me, the question expressed with the most emotional intensity, when it comes to Extraterrestrial Intellegences, is this: "When are they going to appear in our skies? When are they going to land on earth? When is disclosure going to happen?" So now I wish to address this issue with clarity. It is time for plain speaking and honesty. To begin with, there is not simply ONE group of extraterrestrials "out there". It is not a criticism if I say to you that your vision is somewhat myopic, for the sheer most of you who view the issue that way, it is simply a statement of fact given that you are a particle of consciousness incarnated into deep density. So, it is natural that many people on earth don’t even BELIEVE in extra terrestrial life. The broader thinkers amongst you might conceptualize there being a NUMBER of other inhabited planets which might send the occasional ship out to sneakily observe you. Well, the truth of the matter is vastly more complex, exciting and fascinating. Earth is one of an infinite number of places upon which life exists. Of that infinity of points of origin, a truly tremendous number of civilizations have, in this universe, evolved to the point where the boundaries of space and time have ceased to constrain them. There are many methods to move faster than light. It is in reality, nothing more than an imaginary boundary. In the past, on our planet, there were those that said the speed of sound was an unbreakable barrier. Now our faster aircrafts measure their speed in how many multiple of the speed of sound they are able to fly. And in a similar way the Light Speed Barrier is very much one that can be overcome. We simply need to think a little differently about the physics of the universe. Some methods allow crafts to travel very fast indeed and travel inter galactical spaces in a matter of weeks or months. Other, more advanced techniques are more about consciousness than physics. The craft is really a being that is able to elevate its consciousness to higher dimensional levels where this universe is just one of many parallel structures of reality and then to return to the lower dimensions again, this time at the Time & Space Nexus of the desired destination. Such a process allows the traveler to go from any point in space and time in any one of the possible alternate universes to any other point in The Quantum Field, in an instant. That is Teleportation. That method is mind expanding, to say the least. You move into oneness with the universe and then return to individuation again. It is a wonderful thing to experience, especially the first few times. What I am telling you is that there is a profuse abundance of life "out there". Nothing I can say will stretch our imagination enough to even begin to understand how much life really is "out there" and how varied it all is. How many different consciousnesses are, right now, teeming around, upon and within our planetary sphere. If we could raise our awareness right now and observe our planet from all the various Densities of Consciousness. It is known, in some Spiritual and New Age circles by the name of Vibrations of Frequency, if you prefer that term, we would be staggered to see how many crafts of how many types are constantly engaged with earth. Right from The Little Tin Capsules of the more junior races, through The City Sized Mother Ships of the intermediate civilizations and right up to The Liquid Light of Interstellar Voyagers of the more advanced entities. So many are here. We could scarcely look anywhere without seeing this kind of activity at one density level or another. And as many as are here, there are orders of magnitude more Alien Life Forms that would be able to be here but are, quite simply, disinterested. They have other business elsewhere. Most of it beyond The Solar System. So why can we not see them? Why are they not landing and walking amongst us? These are valid questions. Let me say that, on the one hand they very much already here and HAVE landed and ARE walking amongst us. There are crafts and extraterrestrial beings upon the planet all the time. But that is not the point of the question, is it? What we want is to SEE them for yourselves and to interact with us. Well, this too happens. However, on a very limited scale. Many see all kinds of things in the skies and KNOW they are seeing an extraterrestrial craft. Many have had direct interactions with one of a variety of extraterrestrial beings. But this STILL does not answer the question. What we actually want is for them to make a dramatic show that is undeniable to all. We are asking them to land and interact with us on a massive scale. For some obscure reason, more than a few of us seem to want them to land on The White House lawn. A thought that is more than a little odd. What part of “declaration of war” is not understood by those that wish for them to do so? For certainly, this is how such an action would be perceived. But back to the sponsoring thought of our request for them to appear. We wish them to show themselves in a way that ALL upon the planet are forced to admit to their existence and in a way that rips apart the tissue of lies that has been told about them. So, why don't they do it? Let me assure you it is not because they cannot do so. It is because they will not. I will now tell you why. But to do so you are going to have to endure a short lesson in The Evolution of Galactic Civilizations. All civilizations go through a number of steps in their growth and evolution. First the civilization is created by Source Energy at its point of origin. Mostly these are planets but sometimes civilizations begin on stars, it might surprise you to learn. Or indeed, in other places that might seem even less likely to you. How about the periphery of a black hole for an interesting origin. Whenever a new civilization is created, it is the norm for it to be nurtured and watched over by an older, more developed civilization. The gods of our myths and legends are actually just this: Space Civilizations that interacted with earth humans when our civilization was newly formed and in need of teaching regarding certain basics like agriculture, language, writing and various other subjects like mathematics or astronomy. At some point in a civilization’s advancement, there comes a time when Departure will occur. The older race that watches over the younger race leave their protégé’s to their own devices. This is necessary as it is only then that the younger civilization can move properly into The 3rd Density of Consciousness. As long as the old ones are hanging around watching over you, you are doing as you are told. You are not truly choosing and discovering for yourself who you really are. So their role is to get you going, that you can carry on without them. Or at least, they seem to do so. They can, of course, watch over you from behind the scenes where you are not aware of them. It is possible that they might also have their own attachment issues and that they might continue to try to tinker with your development. It does happen. But be that as it may, with this departure, the young planetary civilization takes its first tentative, shaky steps as it chews on The Fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, as it were. And this is where our planetary consciousness has been for the last many thousands of years. Since the gods of our myths have seemed to leave us to ourselves, we have been deeply immersed in your own choices about who we, individually and collectively, really are. This is the hallmark of the 3rd density of consciousness. It is ALL about choice. The choice is this: where will we put our energy? Or put another way: where will we focus our love? we have had Ages of Choice to sort this out for ourselves before the next age begins. And right now we are pretty much in the very centre of the transition between the age of choice and the next age. The opportunity to make up our mind and choose is drawing to a close as it has for countless other planetary civilizations that walked some variation of this same path. So let us take a look at the choice that lies before us. This can, essentially, be reduced to four main possibilities. 1. First there is the choice to steadfastly continue NOT to choose. It is our right to refuse to choose and we will not be forced to choose. This approach is for the soul that has not seen sufficient examples of the options and it will result in such a being going back into the 3D cycle again for another go around, in other words, reincarnate. This is not a step forward. It is a choice to take the same class again. Where such a being will end up is dependent on that being’s Higher Self. But it is entirely possible to come back to planet earth at the beginning of THE SAME lifetime, if that is what is desired. 2. The second choice is to choose what is popularly called Service To Other. This is the choice for one that is love and light oriented. If you feel the good and right thing for you to do is to put others before yourself and to give and serve and love and to make the world a better place then STO is for you. If you have firmly made this choice then you are already living these ideals. As the transition plays out you will find yourself moving into a reality where you will be surrounded by more and more beings of your own Polarity and at some point you will even begin to meet and interact with Space Family who are of this same polarity. Perhaps you will even be going with them to a planet which is more truly “home” for you than earth is. Planetary civilizations that are polarized this way are very peaceful, kind and gentle places to be in. There is a harmonious coexistence that is quite pleasant for many, if possibly a little boring. I say boring because things can tend to the predictable as conflict of any kind is rare and no one seeks to put themselves forward over another. But there IS opportunity for excitement for the STO oriented individual. At the fringes of these societies there is an eternally raging conflict with members of The Opposite Polarity. Let me first tell you all about those. 3. The third choice is for what is called Service To Self. It is the opposite and balancing polarity of Service To Other. STS is the choice for those that seek their own pleasure, power and advancement before that of any other. If you feel you are the most important person in your reality and it is right for you to always put yourself first, then this is your polarity and you will find yourself living this ideal already. You will most likely either be in a position of power over others in some legally legitimized way, such as being a corporate leader or a government official, or you will find your way to power over others, illegally. Such as through crime or even just victim/perpetrator psycho-dramas. You will also gravitate to those who you perceive to be powerful and you will serve them but only as a vehicle to your own advancement. As the transition plays out you will find yourself inhabiting a reality surrounded by ever more beings who, like you, are seeking their own self-service. And in due course you shall also meet members of other space civilizations who themselves are predominantly service to self. I shall not be soft about this. STS is a hard path and I feel great compassion for those that travel this road. The path of ego over heart is a lonely path. No one can be trusted and everyone is manipulating for their own interests. It is very much eat or be eaten in such a reality. But many thrive in such circumstances. They are adept participants and they get to the top of every heap they are in. They love the power and glory of having minions to do their every bidding. They are very willing to play the role of the cruel and heartless master to keep everyone in line. There are many compensations for life in such a hard reality. Certainly the ego may be given full reign in its search for gratification. One of the hallmarks of true STS civilizations is predatory use and abuse of planetary resources. Another is unrestrained conquering of territory. It is obvious that such civilizations will be constantly seeking to colonize other planets. Where they find other civilizations on those planets they will seek to dominate them and take from them what they need. Resources, slaves, whatever it is that they desire. And so it is that borderlines are quickly drawn. STO civilizations band together and defend what is theirs from constant incursions from STS civilizations. And so it comes to be that there is an on going war in the heavens between these two polarities of being. That war is reaching a kind of stalemate and borderlines seem to become permanently drawn. This is because STO civilizations are naturally harmonious and are very willing to co-operate and help each other. They will leap to each other’s mutual defense as a matter of course. So they easily form vast pan-galactic alliances which have access to so much by way of combined resources that they become a very formidable defensive foe. STS civilizations, by contrast, do not easily form alliances. If they do, these agreements are weak as they exist only to serve the transient, narrow self interest of those who signed into the shaky alliance. At the drop of a hat the parties stab each other in the back and the alliance collapses. STS civilizations grow by conquest. Empires grow to span many planets and then schism and collapse in on themselves as internal conflicts over power pull them apart. But these civilizations are always seeking advantage over others and war is a natural expression of their way of being. And that outlines the STO and STS duality between which you might now be choosing. 4. But there is a fourth choice. It is the choice to simply leap-frog the realm of duality altogether and to ascend your consciousness above the petty squabbles. This is The Choice for Unity Consciousness. All STS and STO civilizations will themselves come to a window period such as we are now in. And there we will have the opportunity to either switch polarity, which is rare, or to make the leap and come to the realization that polarity is an illusion. There is, in truth, only Oneness. The Self is in deepest truth, one with the All. Other and Self are temporary illusory constructs that are brought to us via The Veil of Unknowing. Individuation is discovered to be an optional experience. It is entirely possible to continue experience individuation as a civilization if you wish. It is entirely possible to experience unity with Universal Oneness, as well. If the latter choice is made then a whole new way of being blooms for that civilization. A reality in which each being gives its greatest gift and receives in exchange all that it wishes from those around it. Coming to THIS level of awareness is incredibly liberating and empowering. It means there is never any further need for conflict at all. And there is certainly no boredom from lack of diverse interaction, either. What happens to those of unity consciousness is that they come to know themselves to be ONE with The Infinite Source of All. The significance of what this means can scarcely be explained. It means you are directly connected with infinite energy, infinite creativity and infinite potential. You are able to focus your attention anywhere and everywhere you like. You are able to blink from here to anywhere you can imagine. You are able to create by an act of will. Whole realities and universes are expressed like so many playful thoughts by such beings. In fact, the universe we are now in is really is nothing more or less than a fascinating conversation between such beings. And you, yourself, no matter who you are, are ultimately one of many simultaneous expressions of one such a being. And here is the good news. If you are willing, if it is your hearts desire, you ARE able to make the choice for unity consciousness and in so doing, transcend the intermediary duality polarities. THIS is in fact the great miracle of what is happening on our planet right now. Ours is THE FIRST planetary civilization in which this is being accomplished: To go directly from the choice stage of deepest duality right up to unity consciousness. It has never been done before and our planet is the model according to which a whole new way of doing the business of spiritual evolution will be played out. Now, please understand. There is no judgement of those that choose the polarities or indeed of those that choose not to choose. But it is simply so that it is not essential that you spend the next age of your existence in one or the other polarity. And, there is something else you should realize. If and when you do awaken to true unity consciousness then you will realize that everyone actually also made that choice. Eventually, you see, everyone does. And when you do, you step out of the game and find everyone else there too. That is Ultimate Reality. That is the point of Oneness. It is all encompassing. EVERYONE is part of Oneness. Everyone, in fact IS Oneness. But, the more attentive amongst you are now wondering, what does all this have to do with disclosure? Well, now that you have a little background in galactic anthropology, I can finally tell you that our planet has been kept in a kind of semi-quarantine since the departure of the older races that we were talking about earlier. Many of the crafts that are in the vicinity of our planet are there, primarily, to enforce this quarantine. This is to make sure that we are not prematurely interfered with. Our civilization must be allowed to proceed uninterrupted, so that we can each make the mentioned choice. Assuredly, there are STS races who are eager to lunge upon the incredible diversity of resources that we and our planet represent. And equally there are STO races that are diligently working to keep them at bay whilst also performing a number of services to our planet. But ultimately all the elements of both of these polarities MUST make representations to the Planetary Council before they are permitted to take any action. If it does not take place, they are simply denied access. Our planet is surrounded by what I can only describe as a kind of a spiritual membrane. A zone of much higher dimensional energy. It is actually A Spirit Being that provides this service. And this forms a boundary that cannot be crossed by anyone of less than Pure Unity Consciousness. However, it is in the best interests of the All that some work IS permitted to be done on our planet. So STO races apply to the Guardians of the Planetary Council and are given permission to carry on such activities. The Planetary Council is of BALANCED Unity Consciousness. That means that each such activity by an STO group will draw a counter request from an STS group. They will want to gain access to our planet for this or that purpose. These requests are weighed against the greater good and sometimes they are permitted. So, for example, a human being on planet earth might have a soul contract in place that allows for him to be interfered with by an STS group. In such a case a so called abduction experience might be permitted. There was an instance in our history when we discovered the powerfully destructive forces of nuclear weaponry. The dawning of such a capacity for self destruction is a trigger moment for interaction. The leaders of the nuclear aggressor nation were approached by beings of both polarities, STO and STS. Two competing offers were made. The earth leaders at the time chose to rebuff the offer by the STO group. They chose the STS offer of deep secrecy and behind the scenes schemes at the expense of the peoples of their own nation and the earth at large. They did this in exchange for access to weaponized technologies. A contract was opened in this way with the STS races. But even the activities which occurred under that contract are heavily monitored and limited. The STO offer was turned down. This offer included a process of peaceful nuclear disarmament of the whole planet in exchange for clean free energy technologies and techniques for eliminating illness and hunger. And so our planet has progressed with this most momentous of interactions hushed up and hidden. And those in power that had, and continue to have, interactions with extra terrestrial consciousnesses have worked quite diligently to produce a situation where discussion of and belief in UFOs and ETs is relegated to the realm of cuckoo's and crazies. Ironic that they themselves know that it is all true. Now, it might dawn upon you to ask why only STO and STS groups are permitted to interact with us. Why, you might ask, are there not true unity conscious beings playing their role. The answer is quite simple. You see, in order to inhabit the reality we do, our consciousness must be passed though what is called The Veil of Unknowing. we cannot know Oneness while we are on that side of the veil. And so a unity conscious being cannot interact with us. It is as if such beings are permanently perfectly cloaked from our perceptions. The only way we will be able to become aware of such beings is if we raised our consciousness and ascended our own psyche to a higher density of awareness. This is something that very seldom happens and so we don’t really hear about people suddenly becoming aware of a being of pure radiant light. On the rarest of occasions, when this does happen, it is a powerfully transformative experience and the person sets off on a new course of seeking truth and love after that. Jesus The Christ, Buddha and Krishna are some examples. The point is, unity conscious beings are not primarily able to interact with veiled beings. Not in the normal sense of having someone sit opposite you for a conversation. That is not to say that they do not do work in consciousness. They are present with us all the time and are constantly offering us guidance and help, if we are willing to receive it. They are communicating with us all the time in all kinds of ways across whatever corner of the universe we occupy. And so finally. When will disclosure occur? Let me say that it is vanishingly unlikely that our world governments will disclose. At root, the ones that wield the power are completely STS. And to tell the truth about their knowledge of and engagement with extraterrestrial intelligences is tantamount to admitting to all kinds of atrocities committed against humanity in a long running masterplan of lies and deception. And then, for their efforts, they would immediately lose all the power they so desperately crave as we realize what has really been going on. If they disclose all, we will abandon all their games like money, politics and organized religion. We will give up on hatred of each other. We will ignore national, racial, social and religious boundaries. We will see each other for what we weally are: one clan of beings that is an integral part of a much greater universal family. They will lose everything they have worked so hard for and get nothing in return. So they simply won’t do this. The lie is sometimes told that they keep us from knowledge in order to keep us from panicking and harming ourselves. Well, STO groups have staged a number of powerful demonstrations to prove that this is just another fabrication. It has been shown that humanity is very much robust enough to handle knowledge of and interaction with extra terrestrial beings. So the government will not come clean. Some disclosure has happened amongst various world governments that have nothing much to lose from doing so. But the hidden ones behind the scenes, they are highly unlikely to show any of their cards. Many of the events you know about where you were promised disclosure or where you were promised a great showing of ships was really a contract that was being carried out by STO to either force their hand or to bring your consciousness forward towards your own awakening. You see, THIS, your awakening, is the only way TRUE disclosure will happen. No worthy and wise government representative will appear on our television screen to tell us the truth. They have squandered all such opportunities. Indeed, as the age transitions, we will be able to disclose to OURSELVES what we know to be true. The transition WILL happen and we WILL choose. And then, Timelines will diverge. Then we will SEE what we know to be true. We will find ourselves inhabiting a reality in which there is no question that there ARE civilizations from other places in the universe who ARE able to interact with us. The quality of those engagements will depend on us and how we, as a Collective Conscious Civilization, choose. To WHAT we will awaken to, depends on what we are telling ourselves about ourselves. And as we move forward so it will become more and more powerfully apparent that we bring EVERY experience to our awareness by our choices. As we do this more consciously so it will be ever more powerfully apparent to us. Then, the change will be done and we will find ourselves in a reality that is entirely resonant with our own vibration. We will see what we know to be true. And no talking head in a suit will need to appear on a certain little picture box to tell us anything about your reality. For outside, in the night sky, the ships will shine their light. Greg.
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Being Frank Yang replied to Flowerfaeiry's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
HAah ha ha prefect analogy. Remember the first time I glimpsed the thing "alien" was the first thought that popped into the mind. REALLY CREEPY because of how infinite and intelligent it was. And then I used the metaphor of being possessed, first your entire being, and then it possesses everything else then eventually it IS the entire universe, always have been, and it is only THAT which is looking out through your eyes. When you walk is just the universe eating. When you shit is just the universe shitting. -
BipolarGrowth replied to The0Self's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It’s as radical as a trip. You aren’t feeling what I’m feeling. Your judgments for the quality of consciousness are too rigid which keeps you from properly seeing the moment as it is which is enough to transport you to somewhere that’s far more foreign than some DMT alien space, but you’ve went nowhere and nothing has moved. You’re in a human room on earth, from the perspective of this conversation. Nothing has to change for everything to change more than change itself. -
Brivido replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I have been reading a lot of comments the past few days, before making up my mind about what has happened. The main issue seems to be that the majority of people that critique and misinterpret Leo's work are not able to distinguish between Absolute Truth and relative truth. This doesn't make much sense to me, because I have always been able to make such a distinction, but the people that come on this forum have various level of development and I can see how a newbie might misunderstand a True spiritual principle like "All fears are illusion". My suggestion is to make a video or a post about the topic of Absolut Truth and relative truth and pin it at the top of the forum, so that it is clearly stated that they are two different things. I have noticed another problem with the spiritual community in general. Spiritual people tend to become crazy and forget how to behave like a normal human being. The main issue is that on the spiritual path you might see things out of this world and if your mind is not malleable enough you might go insane. I wish that people would be able to have a mystical experience or chat with an alien on Friday and then be able to go to work at the office on Monday, as if nothing special as happened. A video along the line of "How not to lose your mind while on the spiritual path" is much needed. Again, some people on this forum have been studying non-duality for years and others are completely new to the path. In my opinion, it has to be stressed more that studying the map of the non-dual territory actually matters, otherwise you might crash hard. Leo, you used to do that in the past way more, now you are promoting psychedelics. Which is fine to me, but promoting psychedelics to a newbie might have negative repercussions. I think you should make clear that before getting serious with psychedelics a newbie should have a clear understanding of non-duality. Personally, before trying any kind of psychedelic I have studied non-duality for five years or even more, and those five years of study have helped me a lot making sense of what I have experienced during my psychedelics session and staying a functional human being. I hope this post is going to help somehow @Leo Gura -
RMQualtrough replied to Raze's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Salvia Divinorum did not reproduce the no-self effect for me as deeply as the combination of being really stoned on cannabis then hitting a large amount of DMT. On that combination I recall now that I literally had no idea that humans ever existed. By no idea I mean truly, I did not even try to remember what a human is because I didn't even know such a thing existed. I did not know that I had EVER not been where I was at that time or that I ever had a name. I WAS a worm, always had been, and I had always existed in this neon green tunnel which I moved through. There was no possibility to be scared and I did not focus on the trip or what was happening, because I had NO IDEA that this was unusual at all. It was like you are a human now but really you're a space alien and soon you will be back in your alien self. We have no idea what's happening now is abnormal so we feel it is mundane. Same thing. A curious experience but ultimately uninsightful. If you don't even know that you ought to be paying attention to what's happening then you will simply miss it all. -
RMQualtrough replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Dodo If you were sober and seeing things which aren't there and thinking you are Jesus being attacked by dark forces, I would suggest looking into the possibility of schizophrenia. There's an actual easy at home test for schiz, involving sipping soda while making a certain facial expression. Connor stops believing he is an alien etc. once he is given antipsychotics. If dark forces are causing you distress, something like Seroquel might make them vanish. -
RMQualtrough replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
He also says he is a 5th dimensional alien lifeform, that he is the literal second coming of Christ, and all sorts. Have you even seen how unhinged and ill he is? He has been sectioned for psychosis already. -
Proserpina replied to Delis's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I've just been wondering myself as to how seeing 'aliens' may have originally come about for me 15-14 months ago. I had previously been doing practices that would induce a non judgement, non fear based state. My perception was very clean during the beginning of that period of time. To have perceived what was normal as otherwise 'alien' to my perception could be a real possibility. Although it doesn't explain why intentions were so much more loving and positive than a usual human being. -
Proserpina replied to Delis's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes. In 'psychosis' I had the experience that people were devoid of their humanness. They had different wants, intentions and interests. Completely alien. They would light up, especially the masculine aliens, as a result of these differing internal states. Feminine aliens were incredibly loving, which would also induce the lit up quality in the masculine. -
kinesin replied to Delis's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BipolarGrowth I don't believe this kind of experience is what OP is referring to. That sounds more like a psychedelic delusion to me. @Delis To clarify, are you referring to a state where other people still look perfectly human and normal to your eyes, but rather your mind is processing their form as if for the first time, giving you the perception that you're looking at something extremely alien? If so, I've had this experience myself. Imo it's caused by a disidentification with the usual categories your brain uses to process the world (such as 'person), so you're left looking at the 'raw data' so to speak. -
I’d like to start this off by mentioning that I’m a 40 year old dude who has never before done any substances before not even weed. So this is my first ever experience on a single gram of mushroom, and BOY-OH-BOY !! WHAT AN EXPERIENCE IT WAS !! So I hope you enjoy this trip as much as I did. I should add that I’m a fairly skinny individual; I probably weight around 125/130 pounds and I’m 5’7 - So that may be the reason why just a single gram had this effect on me. Having no trip experience before, I really did not know what to expect. Few other things to mention before I start; and all this is important to give you an idea of where I live (for set and setting) - I live on the 33rd floor of a high rise with large windows with an unobstructed south facing views of the city, with lake Ontario visible far off in the distance. There’s a park directly beneath my building (visible to me) with a few other buildings in the vicinity. I was mainly in the living room of my condo unit during this experience. I have a large 60 inch 4K TV (this too is important to mention) situated a few feet in front of the sofa in my living room. Last thing to mention is that I’m a photographer by profession, that started as a hobby where I mostly photographed in nature. So my love for nature and photography go hand in hand. ----- So I took the 1 gram mushroom dose in tea form that I steeped and drank within a span of 15/20 mins as I switched on the TV to YouTube, and was watching and listening to some clips of Leos (the new short clips, he recently released) on YouTube. Onset: As the mushroom starts to take effect; at first I don’t quite like the experience. I feel light headed, sort of nauseated like I’m drunk, so I sit back on the sofa cross legged with an off white blanket wrapped around me. For some reason I can’t stand listening to Leo anymore, so I use the remote to switch to something else, and this is only because of the dizziness I started to experience on the onset. I did a search for “Nature 4K” on YouTube and clicked on a video of a rushing waterfall in a forest thumbnail that was one of the results that came up. Best fukin video ever!! and I’m so glad I clicked on this one. (I've added the link below) A few mins into the onset and now I’m starting to feel funny. And I literally mean funny. At first it started with a few random giggles that slowly started to escalate into full blown hysterical fits of laughter for no apparent reason. This surprised me. After-all I had no reason to laugh, unless I'm seeing something funny or someone told me a hilarious joke. But not while just watching a 4K nature video play out on the TV. ----- The Magical Forest: The laughter now started to come in waves. I just felt like laughing and so I let loose and just laughed my ass off for absolutely no apparent reason, as I walked through this incredible forest on my TV, while sitting of my sofa with a blanket wrapped around me. I don't think I’ve ever laughed this hard. It was fuckin Amazing !! So I’m still watching this beautiful forest video, as the camera man is walking on this winding path through the forest, and I pretend it's me. There's some beautiful music playing in the background of the video, it's green everywhere with a play of light and shadow, and slowly I'm starting to realize how amazing this forest looks. Almost Heavenly. I tell myself there is no way such a beautiful forest exists on this planet. It's like another world, like a new planet that we discovered recently, with such an amazing blend of colors and greens and light. I could see myself living there, like a woodland creature, and I’d be the happiest person ever, just to be there. The fits of laughter I was having continued, as I kept walking through this Ethereal forest, completely taken in by its beauty. In some of the scenes I was walking through this muddy slushy area of the forest, that I would normally try to avoid these areas if I was actually there, but suddenly it all seemed perfect. It was perfect just as it was. The slushy mud, the toppled down and uprooted trees. There were no longer any imperfections in this forest that I would usually try to avoid photographing. But now it all seemed indescribably perfect, like this was heaven. This was definitely heaven. Such a beautiful forest could not exist here on earth. I kept laughing and telling myself how beautiful it was and I wish I was actually there with my camera to capture how beautiful it was. I was envious of this cameraman who got to experience this first-hand. By now I was laughing so much I had tears streaming down my face. I was laughing at what I was feeling; waves of happy euphoria. I was laughing at how beautiful nature is, the way the sunlight touched the ferns and reflected in a dazzling blend of greens and yellow and wood and dirt and it was all magical and beautiful and ethereal and heavenly. ----- The Grand Chasms: A few more mins in … maybe 30 mins in the laughter started to die down, but the smile on my face stayed on. I was gleefully grinning like a kid on Christmas morning knowing he is going to be opening up his presents. The dizziness I was feeling started to go away as well. But I knew I wasn’t fully steady, so I remained seated on the sofa, and I got more comfortable in my seating. I’m still watching the video, cause I’m completely entranced and caught up in the mesmerizing nature of this forest, when I started to notice that the ground and grassy area of the forest seemed to move and come alive. So I moved my eyes away from the screen for a bit and looked at the blanket that was wrapped around me. This blanket was just an ordinary wooly type blanket that I use when I’m usually meditating daily. But now it didn’t seem so ordinary anymore. Since I had my knees folded up to my chest with the blanket around me, I could clearly see the neatly woven lines of yarn of the blanket that rose up. Normally this is not something anyone would notice, its just a fuckin blanket for petes sake. But now suddenly these stood out like chasms, like I was literally staring into another landscape in another world. As the blanket morphed itself around the curves of my legs, it seemed to take on another worldly quality, like an entire land mass was resting around my body. And as the soft wooly bits of yarn rose up and out of the blanket they seemed like tall trees and land masses with mountains and valleys, that someone like myself could shrink into and get lost into another blanket world. This thought and the clarity of the experience blew me away !! I looked away from the blanket back to the forest on my TV screen still playing the background and paused the video. But as the image stayed paused on this beautiful scene, it took on a three dimensional quality of depth, and it seemed like the video was still playing, like the ferns and leaves were moving. I looked at my ceiling, and suddenly I was transported into another world again. The ceiling in my condo is called a “popcorn ceiling” if you’re not familiar with the term then look it up. I hate how it looks because it's not like a normal smooth plain ceiling, but rough and jagged like someone took some white chunky peanut butter and spread it out across the ceiling. Apparently it helps with keeping noise down between floors. So I look up at the ceiling and suddenly the rough texture took on a whole otherworldly quality. Just like the vast rocky mountains in my blanket, the ceiling transports me into another grand canyon of gorges and deep clefts, and again I felt like I could shrink down into this tiny ant sized human and explore my ceiling for days and I would wander between mountains and valleys carved out between these huge boulder sized chunks of chalk and styrofoam. I kept staring at the ceiling and it seemed to morph and blend into these tiny honeycomb like crevices. This ceiling that I always ignored and disliked, now seemed almost otherworldly and an invitation for exploration. By now I of course figured out that my senses were starting to sharpen, as I’ve read from other people experiences. So I took my hand out from under the blanket and bought it close to my face, and BHAM !! Another fucking world to explore !! ----- Heightened Sense Perceptions: As I looked at my hand, I started to see it in a whole new light. Every ridge of my fingers stood out tack sharp, like I’ve never ever seen it before. I could clearly see the fingerprints on the tip of my fingers, every single curve and ridge and arch and loop, stood out like mountain ridges that ran for miles across my hand and my fingers, like some satellite imagery from space. This was literally another fucking world. MY HAND WAS ANOTHER FUCKIN WORLD, ANOTHER CONTINENT !!! Again I’m blown away by what I’m seeing in my own fuckin hand, like I could literally take a spaceship and fly deep down into palm of my hand and explore another world. As I looked closer I had a sense of aliveness within my hands. Like every single millimeter of it had some form of secret alien life within it that was working and shaping my hand and carving out these lines and ridges and exploring them !! GOOD GOD !! (I started to understand why Leo keeps talking about looking at your hand and experiencing it for what it is) By now I’m completely immersed into the whole experience. I’m smiling, I’m happy inside, I’m experiencing this brand new level of immersion and depth that almost seems dream-like, but so very real, that I was just not sure what to make of all of this. I started to understand now. Finally !!! There's the waking state, there’s the dreaming state, and then there is this strange psychedelic state - strange for me, but I’m sure quite normal of some who have experienced it many times. This was new to me and I was fuckin loving every moment of it. By now I was feeling less light headed, but also excited to explore. It's like anything and everything I looked at with a noticeable texture reminded me of another world. I was literally seeing whole undiscovered regions and continents within my own living room. I decided to get up and look out my window, and oh man !! What can I say? I wasn’t on fuckin Earth anymore. It’s like without realizing it I had walked into a parallel universe that opened up inside my living room. As I looked out my window, I almost felt like crying. Everything was as it was. The buildings were there, the park was there, the cars zipping by, but the play of light and colors, made it feel completely different. I know that it was just my own vision and perception that was heightened, but the way the light danced outside my window, it was as if daylight took shape and form and danced around the buildings and on the park, over the lake and in the distance. Like it was a happy light and it was glad to show off its colors as it reflected and moved through the trees and the buildings and road. I stared outside the window for a while completely baffled and mesmerized by how everything looked. But more important than that was how I was feeling at the same time. I was feeling happy and light-hearted. I had this feeling that everything was going to be okay and I had absolutely nothing to worry about. A storm was brewing in the distance as I was taking in this whole scene out my window and I was telling myself that this had to be the most beautiful storm system I had ever seen in my life. So I pulled out my phone and placed it on the window sill and did a time-lapse video of the event with the camera looking out the window (I still have that video, showing the storm clouds moving across the sky). By now I started to feel some hunger come on. I had some snacks that I thought I’d eat, this was basically some cashews and pistachios. And as I was tasting these nuts, it tasted like the most delicious cashews and pistachios I’ve ever tasted. It tasted the same, but the taste was heightened ten fold. I also had a packet of some left over chips and I bought those out and I looked at this one chip and again I’m seeing the texture of this chip like its a whole continent that need to be explored, and I put this continental chip in my mouth and bit into it and the flavor was so intense, I had to sigh in pleasure. But now I was over an hour and half into the experience and I was feeling that it was starting to wear off, which was disappointing, because I was really enjoying the experience and wanted it to last forever. So there you have it. I realize that there was no mystical experience, as it was mainly visual and experiential in the sense that I was happy as I've ever been in my life. I have some questions that I hope some of you more experienced can answer: 1) I have two more tea bags and was wondering if I should just do a 2 grams, next time (steep both tea bags) - I'm not sure how intense that would be for me, given that I live on my own? 2) How do I minimize the nauseated feeling on the Onset? 3) What else can you recommend I do during the trip to intensify the experience? Thanks for reading YouTube vid I was watching during the trip:
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Right... Now you are talking an alien language that doesn't correspond to direct experience. In fact if any.. It's YOU who is imagining God imagining stuff.. not the other way around. -
I'm writing this hoping I can get some direct communication from Leo or someone else. The name I was born with means "A Vessel Forged to House the Love and Grace of God." I have created my own understandings of love and grace, and have always felt a deep sense of responsibility to the people in this world. When Leo speaks of someone becoming a true god in this world, my instincts scream at me to tell me it's me. I'd like some direct guidance and perspective because with my golden birthday coming up, I'm a little fearful. I've talked to a lot of spirits, but my A Team is Kwan Yin, Loki, Thor, Jesus, Apollo, Poseidon, Hades (We love to talk about musicals, also his threats are really funny), Hermes of course, and last but not least my chief advisors Aidos and Nemesis, as well as other gods that lie outside the formations of our current understandings. Lastly, just because I'm ridiculous I added Ursoc from World of Warcraft and Alien X from Ben 10. It was partially a silly decision, but I wanted a perspective of what love and grace meant from beings outside the societal construct of what's held as real, normal or true. We have little respect for animals in our world relative to what their needs are, and I intend to focus my efforts on that issue. My body has been stressed to the point I can't think straight, and it's becoming a detriment to my artwork. If Leo or another admin with good perspective can message me with their number for an hour chat or so, it would mean everything to me. Sincerely, The Dragonbjorn
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Less identification to the body (or, there is more than the body) I read the newest posts from this thread: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/18958-let-us-see-your-face-?/ Is it conscious to post pics of the person behind the account? Of course. Would I post? I could. Yesterday I was hiking with friends. Perfect day for a hike, even from a judging perspective. Just flowing. Feels good. However interestingly, in the evening I went through the photos of me and there was a strange feel of being alien in this human body. Yes, I know this body, but the person is so radically different from the body. This beingness feels outerworldly. I think Leo mentioned in the JP video the delicate balance between deconstructing and integrating aspects of reality. You can go overboard with it (and yet it is Beauty and Love). Interestingly, the person can be rigid and have an agenda by focusing more on transcendence. Spiritual bypassing. Avoiding life. Seeking a shortcut.
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The "your ego's perspective" is an add-in. You are creating that. Notice the framing of "your ego's perspective", rather than "the creation I'm creating that I call 'your ego's perspective'". (And yes, I am aware I am doing the same thing within this construct). You seem to be interested in assumptions, here there is an assumption that there is an external thing of "your ego's perspective". Notice the construct of "argument". Imagine we are hiking together in the forest and I say "look how that hummingbird flies!!! It flies like an alien!". Wouldn't it be odd to say "Your argument that the hummingbird flies like an alien is predicated upon assumptions". That framing is very debate oriented and very restrictive. It is not exploratory. Yet in terms of argumentative structures, EVERY argumentative structure is predicated upon assumptions. In fact, any thing is predicated on the assumption that it is not another thing. This is what I'm referring to as a simplistic construct. Within the construct of an objective, external reality - this is correct. Yet within a relative construct, this is only partially true. The phrase "there is no normal for you or normal for me" indicates a conscious state contracted within objective, external reality that cannot see relativity. It literally say there is no relativity and reveals lack of this awareness. Within the relative construct of "normal" you are creating, that is true. Yet it is not true in other relative constructs of "normal". For example, we could say that deconstructing terms is "normal" - this is true within that relative construct of "normal". Notice how you are saying that your perception is normal and my perception is abnormal. I am saying that your perception is both normal and abnormal. As well, my perception is both normal and abnormal. This is relativity. What is normal and abnormal is relative to the perception of what is normal and abnormal. For that to be true, you would need to be playing like you don't understand things like spectrums, mosaics and relativity. That would be like someone fluent in Spanish pretending they are a begginner in Spanish. That would be playing a game. I'm straight-up adding elements of relativity to what I write. It doesn't get any more direct. If you can't see the relativity elements I'm spitting out, you don't understand relativity. It would be like me saying "Como estas?" and you replying "Say something to me in Spanish". If you could speak Spanish, you would be playing games that you don't speak Spanish. As I've said, I can't give you a personalized reason for you to get the vaccine. A personalized reason comes from within. Imagine me asking "tell me a reason why it should learn freestyle rap". If I'm not internally interested in freestyle rap, there is no reason you can give me. Anything you say, I would dismiss as having no value for me. You could say "Freestyle rap would improve your vocabulary" and I could respond "I don't need to improve my vocabulary". I'm able to give both positive and negative elements of the vaccine. Yet I cannot give a reason for you, because that is relative to you. You create your personal values.
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Many enlightened people see through the illusion of love between family members and having children. One important question would be how many enlightened people would reproduce? It is possible that some would be too focused on consciousness to the point that not enough people reproduce. This could be bad for society if everybody were that enlightened. Assuming there are enough people reproducing, I would expect the crime rate to be much lower. Corruption in the government would not be tolerated at that point. Businesses would be regulated enough to prevent white collar crimes. I don't know if a totally enlightened society would keep money or go full blown communism. Sadhguru is a communist. If the society were stage turquoise, then it would recognize the importance of the entire spiral. Space exploration could continue and new technology would still be developed. This is necessary because one day the sun will engulf the earth. We must terraform other planets to survive. An enlightened society across the galaxy would have varying survival strategies. They may be interested in bringing love throughout the universe. This means if humans discover other intelligent species, we may guide their evolution like friendly aliens. I have an optimistic view of alien life. If there are intelligent species that evolved for tens of thousands of years beyond humans, then their morality would be more developed as well their technology. This is why aliens would be interested in preventing humans from blowing up the earth through nuclear war. If an enlightened society existed already, I would guess it is the aliens preventing us from blowing up the earth.
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Higher resolution views can provide clarity. I'm not using "low resolution, crude" in that context. Imagine an alien comes to earth and is learning the concept of "intimacy". As examples of intimacy, the alien is shown two people gazing into each other's eyes as they make love and the alien is shown two people gazing into each others eyes as one is being strangled to death. Both are extremely intimate moments. Yet this is a crude view because it lacks the relative nature of "light" and "dark" as perceived through the eyes of the beholder. The alien may want to share intimacy and go out strangling people to death. People then point out the relative nature of "light" and "dark". This brings in another dimension into higher resolution, yet the event is not inherently "light" or "dark", it is both light and dark as well as neither light nor dark. The alien's view will be molded by it's angle of perception. If the alien hangs out with serial killers, it will come to understand the wonderful beauty in strangulation intimacy. If the alien could enter the mind of a serial killer, it would directly experience the wonderful beauty of strangulation intimacy. . . Yet if someone points out that strangulation intimacy is also dark, it will reject that view. Since strangulation intimacy is "light", it cannot also be "dark". It will disagree with anyone pointing out the dark nature because any such conclusion is founded on faulty assumptions. From the understanding that strangulation intimacy is "light", it is true that any conclusions that strangulation intimacy is "dark" is founded upon faulty assumptions. However, this is a contracted view. Imagine that the alien gets to experience strangulation intimacy from the perspective of being strangled. This is also an extremely intimate experience, yet know it would be perceived as a "dark" intimacy. The alien would realize "Ooohhhh, so this is what people were talking about the dark nature of strangulation". The alien would then understand that strangulation is 1) intimate, 2) wonderfully intimate and 3) darkly intimate. However, whenever the alien spoke of the "dark" aspect, those that only understand the "light" aspect would say "you believe that strangulation intimacy is 'dark'. Such conclusions are based on faulty assumptions". . . Within the contraction that strangulation intimacy is light, it is true that all conclusions that strangulation intimacy is dark is faulty. As well, recognizing the relativity of "light" and "dark" nature is still a surface-level view, in particular the *other side* that has been labeled as faulty. For example, we could say "Yea, yea, yea. What someone sees as 'light' or 'dark' is relative", yet the embodiment is much stronger on one side. For example, your understanding and embodiment is much stronger on the "light" side. Even if such a mind recognizes conceptually that what we perceive as "light" and "dark" is relative, the understanding and fluency is much stronger on one side. If one wanted to deepen understanding and fluency on another side, a lot of work and effort would be needed.
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Very nice and very true that if you go keto then processed food feels alien and artificial. Where in nature do you find a meal with the amount of sugar contained in a cake ?
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Leo Gura replied to Phyllis Wagner's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Humans have something like masculine and feminine orientations. But to essentialize masculine and feminine and treat them as though they apply across the universe is not correct I think. Some spiritual folk love to do that. As if consciousness is limited to such a narrow dichotomy. A rock is not masculine nor feminine and an alien could be some other thing altogether. -
tuckerwphotography replied to Consept's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Consept In terms of my personal experience, basically I noticed the trend is most dominant in people leaving Stage Orange and moving into Green, feeling disillusioned with everything they previously believed. There's a lot of anger, resentment, confusion and disbelief. They're looking for a new "story" or narrative or worldview they can attach themselves to, and often instead of doing the deep challenging inner work that involves being in the mystery and sitting in the unknown, they cling to whatever story arises that explains why they feel the way they feel. For example, that there's an evil cabal of elites harming them. IMO, it's fundamentally a victim mentality that fuels the fire of anger and allows it to be projected outward instead of investigated inward, and as we know, anger is often a cover for grief. So instead of feeling that deep painful grief we turn to rage and project it onto others. It creates a duality of good and evil, right and wrong, awakened and asleep, enlightened ones and sheeples, high vibe and low vibe. It's a strange irony that in the quest for Oneness so much separation can be created. Often psychedelics can help magnify the conspiracy theories, for example, having alien encounters during DMT/Ayahuasca which adds "evidence" that that aliens must be working with Bill Gates to implant microchips in our brains. I had one friend who told me after an Aya ceremony that the medicine told her COVID was an inside job. She is studying to be a doctor and generally is not a conspiracy theory person. Now, perhaps COVID is an inside job, and I believe she had the experience she's claiming she had, but still, it shows how quickly these things can spread because all it takes is her posting that on social media to have all these other people point and say, "See, more proof that COVID is a government conspiracy here to control our bodies!" Things just warp and take on a life of their own. Lastly, because many in the New Age world are so isolated from mainstream society, it creates a bubble that perpetuates the same narratives and prevents outside voices from offering different perspectives. Same shit that's happening with Q-Anon, Trump supporters, etc. We all living in our little bubbles. One more thing, I suspect many New Agers deep in conspiracies are projecting childhood wounds and a distrust of authorities onto "the system." Many in the spiritual world haven't done the deep inner healing/trauma work that one might think they've done, or perhaps they're in the process of working through those old wounds, and so as they arise it becomes easy to project them outward instead of deconstructing them internally. Classic 101 psychology stuff. Hope this helps. Happy to answer any questions about it as it's a topic I've been studying a lot. I also have shifted my perspective on some stuff. For example, I use to laugh at the concept of aliens controlling the human agenda, but now I see how that could in theory be plausible in the astral/4D/subtle realm. If God is infinity, in theory everything is possible, but because I have absolutely no evidence to support or disprove this theory, it becomes something I just don't really pay attention to. Why put so much effort on a hypothetical that, at my stage of consciousness, is completely outside of my control? I'd rather focus on that which I as Tucker in this human incarnation can improve, change, etc. And mostly that starts with myself, hence why I wrote the "I Am The Conspiracy" essay that I did.
