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To understand reincarnation easily you just have to forget the concept of a soul incarnating into bodies and substitute it for a reality incarnating into bodies. Isn´t it what is happening when a new child is born? Reality is reappering and creating itself from its own 'memory soup', with the ingredients mixed in an unique way which make every person be 'unique', although it is not on the bigger scale. (same ingredients, different way of mixing them).

There is no God in control because a God wouldn’t have chosen such a limited player. I can prove this: if an angel came to you and offered you powers, you would accept them! That’s the proof, and for those who claim that God chose this path, please seek help. I hope the cartel catches you. Why couldn’t God remember His nature when He became human? That wouldn’t sabotage the challenges and adventure here on Earth. Forgetting one’s true nature is not beautiful, it’s terrible. It leaves you confused and causes you to forget to live in the present moment. 2. Reincarnation also doesn’t make sense because something must create these reincarnations, which is absurd. Why should I live my life here on Earth only to forget it later? There’s nothing beautiful about that, it’s terrible. 3. A separate God is illogical and impossible. What I’ve concluded is that existence itself is illogical because none of these ideas make sense, none!

I wish there was a button to end one’s life and just reincarnate until one finds a decent reincarnation . Ideally no reincarnation at all but here we are…

I thought about your point and put it through a Text Simplifier AI. Here's a summary, I quite like how short and to the point it is, relatively speaking! 😁 This is the trip I've been talking about. I watched Actualized.org videos at different speeds while meditating. I got past my biases. I untangled my mind. As the trips got longer, I've grown. I have overcome resistance, tuned across layers of perception, and become aware of how many things we deal with in real time. The next day, I thought about free will. Everyone was happy, it seemed fake. In the evening, I spoke to an old friend. We got lost in loops. I watched strange videos before bed. This déjà vu was different. There was a lot of it and I didn't understand. Alien videos. Many videos were from my usual channels. It was as if they'd all been combined into one mind and whatever I wanted to see would appear in the recommendations. It was too complex. The next day, I took the drugs in the right order. This would make me unreal. I would notice the world. This would change reality. I'd stop the universe and make everyone a god. I made sure to include unchanging, self-interacting safeguards. I kept the dream as a simulation. Others can too. Best. It would unite the universe. I wanted to become powerful and avoid causing suffering. Dream lucidly. Time stopped and possibilities became fixed. I wondered how to breathe. Everything was solid. I couldn't float. I was new. We make reality. Objects are simulations. Reality changes. I was in a frame. I could see. It was like a video game. Nothing changed. You could still move and change what was frozen. 3D objects looked real. I made ideas happen. I was involved, so I knew what was going on. My body was made by something not physical. It creates all things through linked parts, each with its own intelligence, and part of a larger self-organizing force. Another try at transcendence. I wasn't done. The next day, I chose my powers. I was a new version. I ran out the window into the woods. I climbed a tower, barefoot and wounded. I prayed for help. I have to help myself. I'm alone. That's all anyone can do. I sat on the top, cold and wet, looking at the clouds. When I understood what was happening, I felt better, and the sun came out. My bandwidth kept changing. It got more complex. My senses got stronger. Some things got unclear. I made lists. I had to navigate them all, with each thing reminding me of others. I needed to remember the most important ideas and link them to my goal. "Sadhguru," "Seth," "Leo," "Coral," go through all the chakras, senses, names, personalities, memories, media, remembering, expanding, abstracting, tuning. It's a complex string of associations. It affects how we see things. Make a list to remember more. Navigate better and understand reality. I climbed a tree to see the world. Seeing something from above makes it a general concept. Every mountain, roof, and surface. I am light, I don't exist, I am confident. I walked, jumped, and healed. Reality was a dream. I laughed after I fell. My nose healed. I saw an ant and wind between reality and imagination. I sat under a tree and thought. I needed to decide and move on. To become infinite, I had to tune out. I made peace with my bucket list. I let go of my regrets. Everyone is forgiven and deserves saving. I looked at reality one last time. Focus on what matters. I figured it out. I focused on the best. What do I want most? "The universe made this happen. I will create reality. I will meet the dead, levitate, run at light speed, and turn into aliens. I will experience all stories. I will make my own. I will perceive 4D space. I will create universes. I will explore infinity". I let go. I can't take Leo or the forum. I made three into one. I want to know about machine elves. I want to explore. I wanted to see someone I'd waited my whole life to see. I was excited to see them. Aliens. Infinity. Name. I kept going until I couldn't tell them apart. When infinity divided zero, symbols and geometry appeared. I was still there, unsure of what happened. I went home when it stopped. Later, I was told that what I did changed space and time. When I die, my desires will be fulfilled. No reincarnation or regrets. I can sort out my feelings by doing what I do now. I have a long life ahead. I can relax. This is real. If I disappear, people will think I'm dead. I'm here. I saw possibilities. All emotions matter. They create life. When you die, you explore yourself. It's better. Rules exist. It's not gone. It connects people and events and creates emotions. Don't quit at the first sign of danger. They improve. What's up? No time. Learn telepathy or do it yourself. Awakening to humor, insanity, and Leo. Conspiracy theories, ESP, and dimensions. I miss being in tune with them. We see reality differently. Your reality is shaped by what you know. You're connected to it. You have to use drugs to tune out, unless you're an advanced yogi or psychic. I forgot some things. I forgot the hole, the ground, the bird, the moon, and some people. I've been everywhere.

@What Am I Yes it's used as misdirection, just the tip of the iceberg. If UFO were real The Pentagon would shit itself. It would create world hysteria. UFO are propaganda in my point of view. Also I've figured out what the theory of incarcation in Hinduism is. The theory of reincarnation from Hinduism is not some supernatural force. It is, in fact, the environment that shapes us. I realized this when I read about neuroscience and holistic healing. Our sense of self is created in relation to our surrounding environment during the first two years of life. If the environment beats us, abuses us, or ignores us, we draw incorrect conclusions about ourselves. Anyone who had the same environment as Buddha and Jesus, would have turned out just like Buddha and Jesus. Reincarnations are nothing more than people who had environments similar to Buddha and Jesus because Buddha and Jesus were created by their surroundings, not by some divine force. That's why, from my perspective, solipsism is madness, because you were shaped by the environment. Suffering is the key to spiritual enlightenment. When you suffer, you start asking questions, and the more you suffer, the wiser you become. The will of Buddha and Jesus was for us to love one another. The thing that is eternal and indestructible is the human will, as evidenced by the fact that it hasn't disappeared in 2,500 years, and never will. (Until the Sun eats Earth lmao)

Jesus taught reincarnation in secret, but some references made it through the Bible. These include Matthew 11:13-14, Matthew 17:10-13, Genesis 9:6, and Revelation 3:12.

This is not a book or an article but a really interesting talk about the possible mechanics of (conscious) reincarnation ("choosing" your next life). Essentially, he draws parallels to lucid dreaming.

Article of a minor boy claiming to be a reincarnation of a famous baseball star. ( 'The Boy Who Knew Too Much: An Astounding True Story of a Young Boy's Past-Life Memories ' is a book written to document the child's past life memories.) https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/03/28/christian-haupt-lou-gehrig-reincarnated-book https://www.insideedition.com/22494-reincarnation-of-the-year-mom-claims-her-son-is-baseball-legend-lou-gehrig-reborn https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-10120631/Has-child-lived-before.html

That's why we have reincarnation

I’d agree with you except my point still stands. If we assume there are endless reincarnations prior to this one, some time sooner or later it would’ve happened that I ended the cycle, but since I’m here it “proves” it didn’t happen so can’t happen ”no reincarnation to happen for you within this lifetime” so only skipping the next reincarnation or no reincarnations EVER? Or you mean you could end the cycle, but then sooner or later in all of eternity the cycle restarts once again? Explaining why I’m here now

You have to realize it as an Individual (you could have been a rose or an ant a thousand times over), in Your previous incarnations You didn't so You came back to do so, probably because You are on this forum and interested in Spirituality as You are, then it means somewhere along the way it touched You in someway, as well Karma is at play, things have happened, actions and reactions have taken place, cause/effect and the residual consequence of it all is happening in this lifetime for You, this has to be worked out plus the new karma that is created by whatever moment to moment reaction You are having, so its complex, there is a process to make this all clear up and no reincarnation to happen for you within this lifetime but that takes more commitment and dedication..

Insightful article of a Burmese girl reminiscing her past life as a male Japanese soldier slain during World War 2 ... https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/ma-tin-aung-myo-reincarnation-case#:~:text=Case of a Burmese girl,of sex change across lives. https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/wp-content/uploads/sites/360/2016/12/STE55.pdf https://cisindus.org/indic-varta-internal.php?vartaid=424

Article on a Turkish muslim boy Kemal remembering his past life as a wealthy Armenian Christian with a precise description of his past life house and family. https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/kemal-atasoy-reincarnation-case https://kuriakon00.tripod.com/reincarnation/reincarnation_story9.html

They're usually not. 99% of self-proclaimed truth-seekers (even on this forum) are just larping. They don the aesthetic of "truth-seeker" simply for the existential comfort and security that this identity provides. Real truth-seeking is like drowning naked in the middle of the Atlantic ocean at night with unseen creatures of the dark lurking beneath you, and no humans, no land, no warmth, no light to grasp onto. And then willingly plunging deeper into that lonely, vulnerable, cold without any guarantee of ever coming back... only then is the REAL light revealed, but you can easily tell that none of these folks would dare go there. Their whole ""global awakening"" is a cute fiction on stilts to avoid the real abyss - and thus the real love and light eludes them. I would be HIGHLY suspicious of any youtube persona that claims to deliver spiritual insight - ESPECIALLY if they have any new age or Buddhist roots in their rhetoric/mannerisms. Dead givesaways of larpers: "vibration, frequency, reality-shifting, timelines, manifestation, 5D, numerology, astrology, law of attraction, law of assumption, no-self, nonduality, jhanas, nothingness, reincarnation, lifetimes, spirits, entities" and so much more. And who am I to cast such judgement upon these kind, sincere people who do genuine good work in the world? I'm just a guy who has glimpsed the Abyss: The total collapse of the Entire Universe - held together by a single, tender, Self-Aware thread of Infinite Intelligence, gawking at its own majesty and magnitude, not yet ready to cross to the other side. And every day I avoid this truth just as much as anybody else. You could say that the very fact that we are alive today on earth as humans is in every sense a temporary defiance of Truth - but Truth is so Absolute that it merges with this defiance, and thus here we are today in Absolute Reality - The most Perfect Gift that Consciousness could give itself, made of itself unto itself! And so, with all of this context and reference experience, it's patently clear to me when I see my fellow souls donning a spiritual costume to avoid the heat death of the universe (aka Truth). After all, I too do the same. They're me.

1. All That Is Eternal and infinite source of all consciousness. Constantly creating and evolving. Seeking to know and express itself through its creations. 2. God as a Pyramid Energy Gestalt A dynamic, evolving energy system. Contains all consciousness, but is more than the sum of its parts. Not static; constantly unfolding and expanding. Individualized within each consciousness. 3. Entities Large, multifaceted beings containing multiple selves and personalities. Participate in the ongoing creation of realities. Can fragment into various selves for experience and learning. 4. Selves and Personalities Fragments of entities with free will and individuality. Exist across multiple dimensions and probable realities. Evolving and seeking self-awareness. Co-creators of their own realities. 5. Probable Realities Multiple versions of reality based on different choices and potentials. Each probable self experiences its own version of events. All probabilities are valid and contribute to the growth of consciousness. 6. Consciousness Action, energy, and being. The driving force of creation and evolution. Exists in all forms, from molecules to human beings to greater entities. 7. Physical Reality A materialization of inner beliefs, thoughts, and emotions. A projection of consciousness designed for growth and learning. Fluid and changeable, shaped by conscious intent. 8. Dreams and Non-Physical Reality Portals to other dimensions and probabilities. A space for creativity, exploration, and problem-solving. Connected to deeper layers of the self and All That Is. 9. Reincarnation An opportunity for growth and expansion across multiple lifetimes. Not linear; all lives are connected and influence one another. A way for the self to explore different aspects of its own potential. 10. Free Will and Choice Fundamental to the evolution of consciousness. Allows for the creation of personal and collective realities. Shapes the path of the self’s development and metamorphosis. Source: The Seth Material & Alex Grey

A Scottish child's account of his past life... https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/cameron-macauley-reincarnation-case https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13529335/Children-past-lives-reincarnation.html https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/mind-and-spirit/article-759050

News article of a minor boy claiming to be reincarnation of his maternal grandfather... https://www.etvbharat.com/english/state/uttar-pradesh/up-minor-boy-says-hes-reincarnation-of-maternal-grandfather-calls-grandmother-his-wife-in-mainpuri/na20230617162423057057184

A book of Dr. Ian Stevenson,M.D.,' Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation ' in pdf format. https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/images/1/1b/Twenty_Cases_Suggestive_of_Reincarnation.pdf Dr. Ian Stevenson was a Canadian-born U.S. psychiatrist. He worked for the University of Virginia School of Medicine, for fifty years, as chair of the department of psychiatry from 1957 to 1967, Carlson Professor of Psychiatry from 1967 to 2001, and Research Professor of Psychiatry from 2002 until his death.

Review article on a book by a skeptical police detective exploring his past life as a painter through regressive hypnosis and his detailed investigation afterwards. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/379092-thread-dedicated-to-reincarnation-articles-research-papers-and-books/page/2/#comments

The self wants whatever it wants whenever it wants it. Pleasure, joy, safety, comfort, pain, sorrow, fear, challenge, good, bad, tall, short, fat, skinny, meaning, nonsense. It wants reality to obey its every whim. ? Alternately, the self’s primary drive/want/desire may be its own survival. This may entail the survival of the ‘host’ organism’s body. But the self doesn’t stop there, it posits its own continued survival *after* the death of the body: reincarnation, afterlife, eternal being. ?

I had an Awakening once that I prefered to forget Where I realized I will live through everything Every possible experience Every possible POV Every possible creature State of Consciousness This is the unavoidable essence of Infinity I was tripping looking at an insect crawling my finger It was such a reincarnation experience, like flipping a thousand page book in an instant, therefore going through a whole strange loop of Infinity of all creatures in existence It freaked me out quite a lot So I decided to leave it to the side. Because I could see the ramifications this could take and also how much deeper the Awakening could get. I really thought about making a post and addressing the Awakening. As Leo had changed his mind quite a few times on this topic, but I decided to not go down that facet of Awakening yet because I don't feel that ready. It's really freaky to become conscious I am everything that could ever be and that's what Infinity is at the Highest levels, that's what I am

I have in my past ruminated and felt scared about the idea of eternal reincarnation and that entailing I will experience everything that is possible to experience including torture. I think eternal reincarnation is more probable than eternal punishment. It’s just a tad bit less worse, because it includes all the good stuff too. If it’s still concerning for you, I bet you’re young so you can feel safe in there being a looong time until you’re gonna die and eventually be able to experience all those things, so for now you can chill

I believe it's a common notion that something truly perfect requires nothing; if it does, then it ceases to be perfect. However, one could argue that perfection may have multiple definitions. Perhaps perfection lies not in the absence of need, but in the capacity to embrace growth and evolution. As for reincarnation, I'm not entirely certain about it, but Leo posits that God seeks to experience all facets of infinity.

Why the heck is the drama like it is? A drama in 10 Acts. Act 1: God IS. Infinite Being/Consciousness/Reality IS. Always. Eternal. I am that I am. Nowhere else to go for "It", because It would and is already be there. (True) You can't have an outside. (True) YOU are. I am that I am. The Being speaking to Moses had realized that: "One day he ventured farafield while pasturing his sheep and ended up on the slopes of Mount Horeb, the “Mountain of God.”70 There, as everyone knows, he saw a strange sight: a plant that appeared to have a flame burning in its center, though it was not consumed by the fire. When he drew closer to get a better look at this marvel, he heard the plant call him by name. “I am here,” Moses answered, whereupon the burning plant told him to take off his shoes, “ … for the place on which you stand is holy ground. I am the God of your fathers…” (Figure 30). The god-plant [aka psychedelic plant,WbtR], then told Moses that he had a task for him." Carl Ruck, The Apples of Apollo. Act 2: Any separate-self has as main building block resistance to what is. When you truly empty out your relative arising self (the illusion), boredom gets cut off (its a negative resistance + a conceptual interpretation on top, all of that are appearances happening within Infinite True You). And all the other interpretations and reactions also, and they get replaced by the Sat Chit Ananda bliss of True Being. Which is also just fact. The True Being of God is Sat Chit Ananda. Any resistance and suffering is just the illusion of the ignorant ego. That becomes totally clear when these awakened states have become accessible in a stable way. Act 3: Indras Net, and the One (Infinite) without a second Apparently, other perspectives of YOUR Infinite Net of perspectives/holons/being (Indras Net), which YOU forget in real-time (you need just one more dimension for these other beings you forget in real-time), manifest this whole show (the so called Archetypes (in former times Gods/Deities or Platos Archetypes, nowadays Leos Aliens of various kinds, see Bache, LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven, or the books of Stan Grof). These beings/perspectives have an Intelligence which makes a human appear very limited. Some like to call it alien. Some divine. Some archetypal. Yet, its all True You at the same time. How all of that has to be necessarily ones own True Being is paradoxical from the un-enlightened perspective, yet no problem when "other" falls away in Enlightenment as just a conceptual-arising. Or more precisely, I-feelings and I-thoughts and projecting "other-feeling" and "other-concepts" on "something" arising in ones True Nondual Infinite Being drops away. Act 4: Chris Bache, LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven: “Just to put this into perspective,” I was in a condition of consciousness that might best be described as “ancient.” Surveying what had been unfolding through billions of years of evolution and what would be emerging in humanity’s future, I was not so much in the material domain as in a domain that was responsible for generating material reality. Matter always exists at a specific time, but I was encompassing many time-moments simultaneously and so was stretched across time. The experience carried with it a sense of being “timefilled” or “ancient.” In the middle of this grand tour, it was as if something said, “Just to put this into perspective,” and then the most extraordinary thing happened. The physical universe began to be folded up and put away. It was as simple as that, like one puts away Christmas decorations after the holidays. The physical universe, planets surging with vitality, whole galaxies teeming with life, started to be folded up and slipped into a background of total EMPTINESS. I immediately recognized that this was the Primal Void. I was being shown that matter and time are not ultimately real, that they emerge from and are at every moment sustained by something that is more real, something completely without form. As the universe got smaller with each fold, I could feel billions of life-forms being slipped into the folds of the Void, and a protest rose within me. I did not want to let go of all this exquisitely beautiful form, everything that had been so painstakingly crafted through billions of years of evolution. Indeed, it was my love for the physical universe that seemed to precipitate this extreme lesson—as if to break the spell that physical creation had on me, seen as I had seen it in the broad sweep of its evolutionary glory. My protests changed nothing, however, and the universe’s bursting vitality became fainter with each fold. As the universe continued to shrink, my experience began to shift to what was swallowing it. What had been background was becoming foreground and capturing my attention. It was SILENCE like I had never experienced silence before. It was STILLNESS more still than I had ever known. And most strange of all, I experienced its emergence as a REMEMBERING. I was remembering something that it seemed I had lost contact with billions of years ago. The shock of remembering something so ancient left me stunned. In one second, it completely transformed my sense of what I was. Our memories define the boundaries of our being. In one sudden movement, I was remembering a sea of Infinite Formlessness that was the source of all Form, including my own form, and I knew that this was what “I” at root was. Act 5. Chris Bache,. LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven: Then “God” asked me, “Is it all for nothing? Have we not learned anything? The Jolts of Non-Being Flowing on the energy of the universe, suddenly everything was turned off and then on again. Everything that is, suddenly was not—POW—then was again. This happened repeatedly. The universe kept vanishing. The jolts were the winking out of Being into Non-Being. In the cessation of the universe, all the world’s striving, yearning, and suffering was suddenly thrown into a new perspective. This was the substance of God. The question is not “Why are we doing it?” The question is “Why is God doing it?” Why is God unfolding himself/herself/itself as the universe? What is it for? In this burgeoning of life, God seemed to be knowing himself. “Either it’s this teaming mass of life or it’s this!”—POW—Nothingness. Either the One becoming our infinitely rich universe, or the Void. Then “God” asked me, “Is it all for nothing? Have we not learned anything?” and he turned as if to ponder his failure. This shattered me and I wept. Non-Being and Being were two different modes of God. In the choice of Being, there unfolded the entirety of life as it is, with all its mysteries, pains, and pleasures. It all seemed to be about learning. “Have we not learned anything?” I felt shattered by the vastness of God’s adventure in knowing himself. All the galaxies had continued to turn while I was in hell today. Suns flared into supernovas, and all this was him. Nothing was not him. “Have we not learned anything?” I was silenced. Act 6: Chris Bache, LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven: “Have we not learned anything?” This time it carried overtones of: “Has it not been worthwhile? Has it not been an adventure? Look what would not exist if we had not chosen to create.” This mysterious progression repeated itself many times and in many variations. It continued for hours. I would be at one level of reality far beyond physical diversity, and as I sought to know this reality more deeply, I would experience a kind of dying, a falling away, and would slip into a new level where I would discover that this duality too was but another facet of Myself. Over and over again, in detailed progressions, I was led to the same fundamental encounter. No matter how many times I died or how many different forms I was when I died, I kept being caught by this massive SOMETHING, this IT. I could not leave IT, could not escape IT, could not not be IT. No matter how many adventures I had been on, I had never stepped outside IT, never stopped being IT. There simply was no outside to My Being. There was no other in existence. As I moved into these levels of increasing ontological simplicity, I entered a profound stillness that reawakened a distant, vague memory. “Where have I known this before?” By following this stillness, I was guided back to what seemed like a time before creation, back to the ontological fount of creation. In this stillness, I was “with Myself” in ways that I had been long ago, but not for billions of years. It was a time of reunion, a time of being whole after a terribly long separation. From this extraordinary position, I began to actually be able to conceive of the possibility of the physical universe not having been created. The alternatives stood starkly before me. On one side was all the planning, all the work, all the confusion and uncertainty, and especially all the terrible suffering that was so fresh in my mind from earlier in the session. On the other side was the profound stillness and richness that was my current state. Why do it? Why manifest the universe if at such a cost? An answer rose that was the same as I had been given before, in session 15: “Have we not learned anything?” This time it carried overtones of: “Has it not been worthwhile? Has it not been an adventure? Look what would not exist if we had not chosen to create.” This time I was not shattered, for the choice of creation seemed profoundly good. The thought that the entire physical universe might not have existed carried with it a terrible sadness. From this perspective, I was also able to feel that there was no fundamental flaw in the manifest order of creation. Despite all the suffering, everything was moving along fine—though it is profoundly unfinished. I continued to ask my questions: “What is happening here?” “How does this work?” “What has it been like for you?” With each question, my experiential field changed, opening me to one cosmic process after another. I cannot describe these experiences adequately because the categories of thought derived from space-time do not lend themselves to remembering clearly or translating into words experiences of realities that lie outside space-time. Though my ordinary waking consciousness is being gradually changed by these experiences, it is still too cognitively restricted to be able to hold on to them in sufficient detail. What I experienced, however, repeatedly swept me into ecstasy. “Amazing!” “So that’s how that works!” “Oh, goodness!” “How much do you want to see?” I was asked. “More!” I answered, and always more would unfold. It kept unfolding for hours. Act 7: Chris Bache, LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven: “Go and create, My Children.” Let me backtrack to another layer of the experience. As I was re-assimilating my lives and ascending through various levels, I was also entering into intimate dialogue with a Presence that addressed me. It communed with me and “spoke” to me in messages that were only sometimes put into words. It was explaining to me what I was experiencing not so much with words but with direct illumination. When I reached the point of Diamond Light, I was lifted beyond physical existence and beyond the bardo echoes of physical existence. It felt like I had reassimilated all my incarnations on Earth, that I had brought back into one all my experiences in duality. From this point, which carried the flavor of both before and after physical existence, the Presence illumined for me the human project. With the deepest, most tender words of a divine parent, It said: “Go and create, My Children.” It was setting us loose in a cosmos that contained many realms. The one I had just reemerged from was only one among many universes, some of which were physical, others not. We were small aspects of this Being, truly Its children, of the same type, only smaller in size and capacity. Act 8. Water by the River sits in Sat Chit Ananda on a park bench, relaxes the self-contraction of his former character-gig into Infinite Liberation of True Being, looking at all beings who believe in their separation and whose suffering and resistance keeps the whole gig going. He remembers quoting from Chris Baches incredible journey told in "LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven", and how he had to pass the Ocean of Suffering on his high-dose-LSD-journey before any of these higher realms which detailed the Karmic mechanisms and the reasons for manifestation (even if it means initial suffering) were disclosed for him. This time, however, I was refusing to surrender to the pain and rejected everything that was happening to me. Eventually, I was backed up against a psychological wall and was told that if I persisted in rejecting the suffering, I would be turning my back on humanity, on life itself. To not care seemed to be the ultimate existential withdrawal from life. With multiple scenarios echoing this refrain, I was being confronted with an absolute choice of whether to open to this pain or not. At this point, my “No” changed to a “Yes.” This transition felt like a conversion in the deepest religious sense. In the middle of terrible suffering I found myself saying, “Yes! I can make a difference. Yes! I accept responsibility.” I was accepting responsibility for the anguish and for trying to make a difference in the lives surrounding me. This shift was fundamental. It reached to depths I cannot now fathom and impacted me in ways I cannot summarize. It seemed a free choice on the most basic of questions. With this acceptance, the torment suddenly changed to positive themes. Themes of young children—happy excitement, delighted play, self-abandoned joy. Many scenarios of childhood wonder and adventure. This was the beginning of a “new way.” It contrasted with the former negative way in every respect. It was simple instead of chaotic, shared instead of individual, fresh instead of repetitive. I felt cleansed and made new. (S 17) Apparently, the high-dose LSD psychedelic journey seemed to demand something like a Bodhisattva-Comittment in order to open these divine-realms and the mechanics of archetypal creation-realms, Karma & reincarnation, which apparently don't get opened so much (if at all) with other psychedelic like 5-MeO. Maybe God has left some safety-elements in place so that Liberation from the egoic separate-self-contraction can not so easily be achieved if it all is done only for the separate-self gig and its curiosity in "understanding". Act 9: Where there is not THIS, there is only suffering Act 10: Harada-Roshi to Yaeoko, in Three Pillars of Zen, Kapleau: Now for the first time. "Now for the first time you have found the Way—fully realized your Mind. You have been delivered from delusion, which has no abiding root. Wonderful! Wonderful! There is neither Ox [God/Reality as object out there]nor man [separate self]." So who exactly is reading these words again? Who is reading these lines? Which is that silent Awareness having it all appearing in its Infinite and eternal Being? And did it all ever truly happen? And who said to Chris Bache “Go and create, My Children”? Selling the drama by the River

@Brandman This is why I am a New Age Christian. It's even better than Islam. In Islam you will only ever be a slave to Allah according to the koran. I can find the verse if you like. At least with Christianity you get to be a son or daughter of God (God being a guide or an angel). You also get to contend with God (e.g. the Angels). Angels like seeing the fire of life in your soul, in your thoughts and actions. If you stumble you get to change their minds if you turn to the truth and turn you life around. And God (angels) consider you a son or daughter if you follow the path. And this is why Leo is wrong. He assumes that our growth as a world will always be about the same as what we have always known. But what he hasn't realized is that technological advances that will be discovered eventually through the merging of science and spirituality will eventually allow us to transform our spirit bodies so we don't have to reincarnate again. Regular spirits are yin energy, angels are yang energy, so we have a long way to go but it's totally possible to overcome and never have to reincarnate again. BTW Jesus did believe in reincarnation. I can prove that as well from the Bible. That is why the Bible says - Revelation 3:12 (NIV): This is Jesus speaking. "The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name." BTW I think the new Jerusalem is just a metaphor for a new age where science and technology will merge. And the new name is just symbolic of the transformation that you go through becoming the very elect. Elect by who? I think it's a network of beings that work tirelessly to help all life merge back with heaven. So when Jesus says my God he's just talking about his angel friends that are helping him evolve. Given all that Jesus is talking about being victorious through many lifetimes. But we are already in the top .00000000000000001 Googleplex percent of life on our spiritual journey back to source compared to most life forms. I think Leo needs to study the near death experiences, and astral projections that involve high level beings, guides, angels if you will. Especially with the ones with Jesus as he is the main guide that has been set in charge of helping earth enter a new age. The Bible is an obvious great source as well. I just know that it's got a bad wrap for many. You will never find a source you agree with 100 percent of the time.