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You take my word "bored" too literally. Of course God does not become bored, that is a human emotion. God can exist as Nothingness for eternity and not give a fuck. But at some point God will also move to experience finite dreams. Love would be a better explanation than boredom. I spoke of boredom to get your human ego to relate to the problem of being totally unlimited. From a human's POV, being totally unlimited is not such an exciting state to be in for long. A human would get bored of it. Just like a human would not enjoy an video game where you had unlimited powers.

Just read it and I am so happy I did. Very insightful! some of the things you said were quite relieving such as the ego being beautiful because of it's genius (to love the ego) and that feeling nothing is ok (I believe to feel this nothingness) and to notice the impermanence (by focusing on feeling). What I really loved is that you talked about how accepting feeling is key to feeling. Sometimes I just feel like I want to release my emotions but never do, always suppress them, mostly automatically in subtle ways. Yet I do have this silent yearning for releasing it. I know I want it deep inside because as children we used to do it more often (this is one of the reasons I believe many of us want to go back to be children). I have not yet managed to release emotions even though I've been practicing mindfulness for like a month now (mostly feeling, hearing and feeling sensations). I would say though that I feel a bit more improvement and that I'm not AS resistant as I was before. Opening myself up to acceptance is the real deal. And I don't know how to do it. What practices do you do for it?

@CBDinfused There is the seeing of one's own true nature. Of being infinite nothingness. And if you see it well enough, you'll see that this infinite nothingness (which is everything) is immortal. And so it is that I know that this nothingness will never die. Physical death is an illusion. Me, Mujtaba, my human self with a name might die. I don't know. Whether I have a "soul" which will reincarnate I don't know, but thats a lower order structure to absolute infinity/nothingness. My true self won't die. Naturally this is a scary thing when seeing. My mind keeps itself distracted from seeing this.

I just woke up from one of my most terrifying sleep paralysis experience, which happened after a bad trip dream (just to make things more fun might have thought my brain). The level of self-awareness I reached on this sleep paralysis was way, way, way, beyond anything I had experienced yet. Basically I couldn't move but I was conscious (honestly I DON'T KNOW anymore if I do get true sleep paralysis or I DREAM THEM. In anyway I basically think it's the same or there is not much difference). So yeah, I couldn't move and I was conscious. I basically was this absolute nothingness in an empty black void space, and I was absolutely conscious. There was NO EGO. I could just focus on the breathing. And I actually I wondered if I was going to die of respiratory supression in that moment right there (because the sleep paralysis it just completely vanishes your sense of body, it gives you this feeling, like the breathing is your only "anchor" you better not lose it). So I focus on the breathing and surrender. I couldn't do anything else. Thankfully after some "seconds" it passed. Fuck that was intense. That was God? Why that was SO SCARY? There wasn't NO hallucinations whatsoever. It was just pure raw Consciousness with No ego, yet this was a level of being aware so Intense and radical it went beyond the typical peaceful of meditation to basically terryfing of so real this nothingness was.

Sorry, this post above was meant for another thread, i have no idea how i ended up posting it here lol So in any case, i can share with you what has helped me most throughout the years: - and the first thing would be to underline YEARS. It has been very helpful to me to think in terms of what i want to do, or rather how i want to feel and be, 2-3 years from now (at least!). - a quote from Sadhguru that has helped me tremendously: "first establish yourself in yoga, then act. This is not a time to drive, but a time to fix the wheels." I realized that i want to make understanding myself THE priority of my life. So i dedicated myself fully to understanding. From then every goal that i had fell under that larger goal of Self-understanding, or Self-Love! Everything you do prior to knowing your Self will have this anxious vibe to it. Because it's about survival and manipulating reality, not about Love. - as for expectations, expect the real juicy things to take at least double the time you think they will take, then multiply that by 10! So forget about WHEN things will happen! Because worrying and expecting is a sure way to keep your conscious mind rigid, and when your conscious mind is rigid, what you are striving for cannot penetrate through to impregnate the subconscious mind, so habits cannot form! - there may be confusion about every single thing that you are trying to change or improve in your life in the beginning. This is normal. it's a unique time, and it is supposed to be this way. Don't worry, it certainly won't last forever. But just remember to frame confusion as a positive thing. It means that you are on the right track, and that you are changing things deep inside you, triggering some survival mechanisms. It's ok, they'll pass as you understand what your emotions are and what they do. - have faith that the process works, even when you lack immediate results. In sports, newbies grow the most, even with shitty training and diet. With a good training program, a newbie can progress for 2-4 years really well. After that, programming needs to change, to adapt to the more complex abilities the athlete has acquired. And for advanced folk, many other variables become important or even obligatory for progress, but that's not important now. Just trust that as long as you stick to the basics, you will be fine for a good few years from now. Some of the basics are: - meditation and other concentration exercises, to make my conscious mind sharp and able to be present for a long time, - contemplation, especially simply contemplating infinity and what infinity implies - psychedelics, which have helped me open my ming and understand the nature of consciousness and infinity - deconstructing reality, identifying and questioning every single motherfuckin' belief and behavior that i can find - understanding the emotional guidance system, and how emotions guide us to Truth - learning from as many teachers as possible, listening to EVERY perspective and being RADICALLY open-minded, as Leo likes to say - and simply seeing absolutely everything as One, as myself, as God, LOVE, infinity, Consciousness, Nothingness. All this can seem kinda overwhelming at first, but that's just because you don't understand your emotions yet. That's about all that i can think of right now. Stay curious and Godspeed, my friend! @Nahm i hope ok if i share this link from your site https://www.actualityofbeing.com/the-emotional-scale

Is there a point in the future where all of existence will simply vanish and dissolve into nothingness? Or is it just gonna keep going forever creating more forms to infinity? What about my individual experience? Maybe reality has no end as a whole but do I have an end? Will my subjective experience continue endlessly? Or is there an end to me? What is the ultimate fate of all of existence including my personal fate? Where am I gonna end up in? Or is it just gonna keep going forever? ?

If it never occurred is it all illusion? We're in a dream of nothingness where nothing happens.

I once had a kind of dream, after doing psychedelic the day before, about death. the person, me, with all its characteristics, attributes, memories, detached itself, and with all serenity dissolved into nothingness forever, as if it had never existed, and emptiness remained. only that I really was the emptiness, absolutely void, I always was and the person never existed. I think death could be like this

I say that this is serious because there has been no other question that I have ever had on this journey so far that I feel so open to having an answer for, hence the question. Could it be that all of reality is consciousness itself? I'm aware of the cliché of this question, but what makes it serious is that at this point, my mind is open enough for the answer. My own contemplations: If it's true that reality is consciousness itself, that would mean that any thoughts that I have had about what reality is made out of is completely backwards. Specifically the thoughts that reality is made out of atoms, or whatever possible thought that attempts to invalidate this question. We might think that reality is made out of atoms, or waves, or energy, to form all these holons, etc. When this question hit me, I was in the middle of a walk thinking about how reality must be made out of the same energy, taking different forms and different vibrational frequencies. Are you with me? Because here comes the question which jerks my tears: Could it be that all of reality is consciousness itself? You know the consciousness we all experience? The awareness of things? What if reality is made out of Consciousness, and Nothing else!? It's completely backwards relative to any other explanation, such as atoms, energy, etc. The consciousness "Of" reality, being the substance of reality. Holy... But where is the separation between me and the consciousness "of" reality? "Of" entails that there is a seer; Could it be that all of reality is consciousness, without a seer???!!! WHAT?! Okay, that one sinks in. But if it's true, then how is consciousness? Now, thoughts are appearing of the complexity of how reality takes different forms. How is consciousness... How is it not? Could it be that consciousness "is", and "is not" at the same time?! As the substance without a seer??! Consciousness could be "not" by always changing shape. But then, how is consciousness constant, relative to constantly changing shape? How can consciousness not be? Is that even possible? Yeah, consciousness can change shape... Is there a shape that consciousness cannot take? No... that's very unintelligent. There is no shape which consciousness cannot take. If consciousness can take shape, obviously even change chape, then it's very unintelligent for consciousness to not be able to take "certain shapes". It seems like what enables consciousness to take shape, also enables consciousness to take any shape. But then... What enables consciousness to be & take shapes? ... Nothing? Is it nothing? Could it be that "Nothing" is what enables consciousness to be? Well, the existence of absolutely nothing enables absolutely every shape to exist. How? Because the existence of absolutely nothing, means that it's substracted from all form. If consciousness, as the substance without a seer, strips away all forms, as there is no shape that consciousness cannot take, then, the stripping away of all form means that absolutely nothing remains. Could it be that absolutely nothing, is absolutely everything? It seems like the ability to take any shape, comes from the ability to let go of those very shapes. Because if one clings on to specific shapes, then reality is limited in its ability to take shapes. For shapes to be, shapes also has to not be. Can certain shapes be prioritized to be? -> No, by the same mechanics as reality can't be limited in its ability to take certain shapes; it cannot be limited in letting go of certain shapes either. If we let go of all shapes, we get nothing. If we let all shapes exist, we get everything. But for everything to exist, everything has to also be let go of, because why would reality ever cling on to specific things? Could it be that existence is nothing, and everything, at the same time?? Yes.... . Because for something to be, it has to be not. For specific things to take shape, it first has to lose it's shape. And for everything to take shape, it first has to have no shape at all. For shapes to even exist, they have to not be. For consciousness to be, it has to "be not". It seems like "shapelessness" and "shapes" must exist simultaneously. As if the substance of shapes is nothing and everything. And that's a great solution. That's a great solution. For when nothingness and consciousness intertwine, it allows reality to be. Anything. It also has to be everything, for it to even exist, as nothing and everything simultaneously. Everything = infinite. Could it be that all of reality is consciousness itself? Haha... Yes it can. Because it's nothing - everything - infinite. Guys, God is inside.

I feel like it just "is" and even calling it "isness" is not the same thing as the actual thing. Even calling it things such as awareness, eternity, god, nothingness, whatever just doesn't really do it justice since it's not the actual thing itself, whatever that thing might be.

*** This. *** Of course. "Is there a point in the future where all of existence will simply vanish and dissolve into nothingness?" It is already nothing. There isn't any need to dissolve or vanish anything; it is already completely that: whole, one, zero. Nothing is going on...... .... except your imagination, silly. Ask yourself as God: when do you want to stop imagining stuff? When you are in deep sleep is anything imagined?

There is an old Buddhist saying " form is empty. Emptiness is form". It's basically pointing to the collapse of the duality between somethingness and nothingness. I've realized it many times.. That something and nothing are identical. The mistake is thinking that "nothing" is some blank black void somewhere. No.. Everything we are experiencing all the time is precisely nothing. It's completely hollow and unstable. No different than appearance of a Dream. Even scientifically speaking.. If you break down the atoms that make up the universe.. You will get waves of energy. Break down the energry and you get nothingness . We know now through quantum physics that the universe is literally made out of nothing. But I stil can't wrap my head around... Why there is "stuff"? Why colors and sounds and objects? It's utterly miraculous that these things exist at all.. Like if you examine any object or just your own body.. "Wow what the fuck is this? ?." . But we take it for granted because we've been alive for lots and lots. My question : I get that there is no difference between something and nothing. But I can't wrap my mind around why there is "stuff". If the universe was just pure empty blankness that would still be nothing but rather in its most "pure" and original form possible. So why did God bother to say "let there be light"?

I disagree. The answer is turtles all the way down. You can split it indefinately. Then you reach the plank length. Then you go into energy. What is energy. Well energy is fueled by 5th dimension waves of patterns. which is fueled by 6th dimension stuff and it goes on forever. It doesn't end with nothingness. Ken wilber said it. It's holons. If you go a trillion orders of magnitide deeper or smaller, you don't get closer to nothing, you just go deeper into the smallness or in causality. At least that's what I believe.

@Leo Gura What do you think Leo? Is it something like this or is it like just fading away into absolute nothingness?

A Dialogue with Mother Earth June 21st, 2018. "................" Me: What can you tell me about Dimension Densities? Gaia: Everything. What do you want to know? Me: In which dimension do you reside? Gaia: 7th. Me: How many dimensions are there? Gaia: From a higher perspective, an infinite number. From your perspective, 13 are known. Me: In which do I reside? Gaia: The 3rd, of course. Me: Right Silence. Me: How do I progress this "Dimensional Ladder" so to speak? what do I do? Gaia: You don't DO anything. You BE. Me: I'm already BEING. What am I being? Gaia: That which you choose. Me: I though Free Will does not exist... Gaia: Choice and free will are not the same thing. Me: They aren't? Gaia: No. Me: Well, what's the difference? Gaia: Will comes from The Inward. Think of the Do Nothing Technique you started practicing last week. Me: Okay... Gaia: The desicion to have that burger just came into your mind, right? Me: Yes. Gaia: From where to you suppose that thought mysteriously appeared in your consciousness? Me: Nothingness. The Eternal Something. So, in other words, a thought, an introspective report, cannot be wrong, since you thought it. It appeared mysteriously, as you said in my consciousness. Therefore there is always truth no matter where you go. Gaia: Precisely! "..............."

"I wouldn't say a distinction is purely mind created.. It is definitely inherent in things themselves. For example you don't project or imagine the difference between a hot and a cold drink. You can actually feel the difference between the two." In this example the difference is in the feeling after the drink has interacted with your body and created a reaction. Does the difference exist before the interaction? Maybe it's like Schrodinger's cat, just a possibility not an actual thing. "However the distinction between somethingness and nothingness seems unclear to me. Also distinction between real and imaginary seems like a mental projection (thinking of dreams as an example)." Me too, what's it like when the mental projecting takes a rest and the distinction collapses? If it really doesn't matter whether This is real or imaginary, like when there's no survival threat to you, it's great, you can let go and be free.

I wouldn't say a distinction is purely mind created.. It is definitely inherent in things themselves. For example you don't project or imagine the difference between a hot and a cold drink. You can actually feel the difference between the two. However the distinction between somethingness and nothingness seems unclear to me. Also distinction between real and imaginary seems like a mental projection (thinking of dreams as an example).

Sure But don't forget, murder can also be a stepping stone to Infinite Love. Everything is a stepping stone in its own way. It's not about comparing me to anyone. It's about guiding you to the deepest consciousness possible. You will not reach the deepest consciousness using their weak sauce. I'm very serious about this. I don't give a rats ass about being better than those people. What I care about is you getting stuck at some nothingness or no-self state. Nonduality is not full God-realization. All paths do not lead to the same place. There exists a place of Infinite Consciousness. If you dare, I will meet you there.

@Holygrail nothingness is not an experience. Its what you are.

Thank you, Sir, for devoting some of your precious time to read and even comment on my post. That others had attained Ein Sof is news to me. I will continue my research through Zen satori and Buddhist cessation. My understanding of Nothingness is very basic. Thank you for enlightening me, it is not taken for granted. Good day, Sir.

I’m so glad you said I didn’t answer it. That allows ‘going deeper’. Water is not analogous to nothingness in that analogy. Water does not know the thought, ‘why’, nor would water expect a thought to answer the thought, ‘why’, because water realizes it is water, already. Water is formless & eternal. Water does not have a ‘why’, only ‘what’ water is, or, it’s true nature of wetness. Water does not expect a ‘why’ answer as to water being wet, water is water, that is “why” it is wet. Water is not the idea of water. Water is water. Water can not appear as something it is not. Ice... is... water. If I could type here, a why, and that was all there was to it... brother, believe me, I’d type it. But I cannot. Water doesn’t work that way. So I make my self available, 24/7, and it usually takes an hour - two hours to get wet. We all have hardships and challenges in our lives, but have you ever actually considered how difficult it would be to be overwhelmed with love, joy, and laughter, yet not even smile?

Yes you basically reformed my question but didn't answer it. I'm guessing water is analogous to nothingness. And ice is something. So nothing appears as stuff. My question is why or how If you will. How does nothing appear as stuff. If it truly is nothing.. Where does the" stuffness "quality come from? How do you appear as something you are actually not?

@Rohit Kuna here’s what I wrote in my notes about it Solving the mind-body problem by understanding dreams When you go to sleep at night, you often find yourself in dreams. In these dreams, most people will still have a human body. In waking reality, there is an unsubstantiated claim or story given by people that consciousness is somehow generated by the brain. The experts aren’t so sure, or at least they don’t have any solid evidence. Look up the “hard problem of consciousness” to understand how this is unsubstantiated. In the dream, you typically do not think along the same lines. If you were to lucid dream, you would certainly not think you were the dream body or somehow generated by the brain in your dream head. I say you, but I need to clarify exactly who you are. You are consciousness. Consciousness is the only constant you can find in all realities. In the dream, you are literally everything perceived in the dream. It’s all generated by your consciousness. We understand fully that everything created in our dreams comes entirely from us and is an extension of us. Surprisingly enough, there’s no solid argument against this being exactly the same case in waking reality. Your brain, body, and mind are all generated by consciousness in the same fashion consciousness generates the entire reality in dreams. Beyond your mind, body, and brain, you as consciousness generate this entire reality. This entire reality IS consciousness and nothing else. It’s the same way in a dream; nothing is separate from you as consciousness. You as consciousness are the sole source for everything in the dream. No one thinks everyone in their dreams are conscious, separate entities once they’ve come back to the waking state. It’s the same in this reality. There’s absolutely no way you can actually be shown something outside of your consciousness. There will never ever be proof that other beings are conscious separately or outside of your consciousness. Even if you merged consciousness with another being in the waking state as a way to somehow prove the existence of another consciousness, guess what it would be? It would be fully engulfed in exactly one thing: you as consciousness or otherwise put your consciousness. You are the source of everything that exists in your consciousness, and your consciousness is the entirety of your universe and always will be. Nothing can ever exist outside of your consciousness. Existence relies completely on perception and consciousness to even be relevant. What is the difference between a fairytale land in a book, the black void people typically conceive of as nothingness or nonexistence, and a reality you imagine exists like heaven? They’re all just imagination. The only thing that’s real is what you can experience in this very moment. As soon as something exits consciousness, it exits existence. There’s no proof for something existing outside of consciousness, and there never will be because the most fundamental building block in any proof is, you guessed it, consciousness. Before using reason or logic or any other conceptual tool to prove something you use precisely one thing first: consciousness. Even if you and I are both conscious entities, we live in completely different “universes of consciousness.” Precisely, that is to say that one consciousness can never be shown another consciousness to exist without perceiving the other consciousness through the lens of the original consciousness. As soon as one consciousness comes into the other, the secondary consciousness immediately becomes an aspect of the primary consciousness. So if you were to completely merge your consciousness with mine, your consciousness would be held within my consciousness, and it would be the same for you if the process were done from your perspective. This is a clear mechanic of consciousness. We can never know if the person sitting across the lunch table from us is conscious. We can only assume one way or the other. Anything imagined to be separate from the perspective of the original consciousness will always just be one more aspect of the original consciousness. In this way, we are entirely alone as consciousness. We are not alone as human beings. There are plenty of humans walking around. You can clearly perceive that, but by the very nature of perception, consciousness cannot perceive another consciousness without it immediately becoming another aspect of itself. Consciousness cannot perceive another consciousness as some sort of separate thing. Once the “other” consciousness is viewed, it only exists as long as it is in contact with the primary consciousness - the point of perception, and it is only truly the primary consciousness the entire time. In this way, you can never truly share space with another consciousness. You cannot perceive another consciousness. Anything you perceive is just you. You are consciousness. Everything is you. Everything is consciousness. It will be this way for eternity. You as consciousness will likely visit innumerable dreamt up worlds that you’ve created. You’ll perceive yourself as some kind of avatar or character as far as we can tell. You’ll at first see all the rest of the characters in your dreamt up creation as separate from you, but in truth those dream characters are just as much you as your primary character is. They’re just characters held within consciousness. One, your primary character who you at first feel to live inside, simply exists in your consciousness more of the time than the others. Ultimately neither the other characters or your perceived primary character is you because you are the consciousness that permeates all aspects of the dream world including its laws of physics, characters, objects, and everything else. You aren’t the characters any more than you are the objects or the laws of motion that govern that reality. You are all aspects of that reality. You are all aspects of all realities. A reality can only exist within you. Something is only real to you if it is held within your consciousness. No realities exist outside of the one you are experiencing right now. This waking state planet Earth does not exist when you are in a dream. Your wife could tell you that the world still existed while you were asleep, but you have to see how this is exactly the same as if your dream wife told you the dream reality was there while you were asleep. It means nothing because you as consciousness were not there. That seems to be the pattern in what we can verify between both the waking state and dreams.

Ein Sof has been attained by more than Moses. Silly myths. Ein Sof is Zen satori and Buddhist cessation. It's just Nothingness. It is not even the highest attainment.

For the experience of physical stuff. You can't have two different experiences at the same time, if that's what you would consider to be unbiased. You can't be a dog and a kangaroo at the same time, you have to fully become either thing. If God switched to pure blank, you would say the bias is that there is no physical stuff. But, in order to experience either situation, aspects from each need to be negated. It's also noteworthy to be conscious of the fact that you're ultimately just imagining bias, because you're imagining that there is an experience that is other than what is right now, and that you can't access it. This current experience is all there is. Even hypothesizing about a different potential experience is just extrapolation, because the only experience is your current one. Consciousness wanted to experience you thinking that it is biased, and in order to do that it had to make you imagine some experience of empty blankness that you can't access. Although, it's not like you are unable to experience a "pure blank". I have experienced it before. It doesn't take any extra effort for the universe to experience what it is like to be a human than to be in a state of pure nothingness. "Pure blank" is not some special default state of consciousness that is fundamentally different from normal experiences, it is just another experience in the vast ocean of experiences.