Terell Kirby

Wise liberals, leftist and progressives will clearly see Charlie Kirk’s murder as a blow to the very ideals they stand for, and a regression of democratic and liberal ideals. Stuff like this unites MAGA and the right. They feed off of violence and dysfunction. It also legitimizes their claims that leftist should be eradicated-through means that don’t exclude violence given recent events. This widens their influence on political narratives. If you call your self a leftist or progressive- and are unable to see this, you are in a way immature and don’t see how this will backfire and paint you into a corner you can’t get out of. Stop debating and get real-it’s a time for self reflection and honesty. Just listen to Kirk’s wife, there’s a confrontational element to it: https://youtu.be/1KogDLBZ8hM?si=GmgNSrhuQe6jweIO

Church apostle and his mom charged with sex trafficking minors: https://www.npr.org/2025/09/13/nx-s1-5537890/megachurch-leader-and-his-mother-indicted-on-sex-trafficking-and-racketeering-charges

what do feel about Charlie Kirk getting murdered? Not necessarily what you think about it. People being entitled to the right to live is a thought, construct (which we create many beliefs behind). Point is-feelings and thoughts are two distinct things. On the level of thought-people think many things about what happened, and its a distraction from paying attention to how they feel- about themselves, about others and the world at large. Those feelings are important to process while all the monkey business is going on social media. People are losing their minds

rights are inventions- but nonetheless-we can't deny how shitty it feels to see someone die on camera. Thats a first person experience, nothing invented about it for sure

Have you ever mourned the destruction / death of your enemy? Contemplate what that would take - they would have to cease being your enemy. What would that process entail?

More perspective:

Revisiting this episode to help navigate all the perspectival chaos in the media from all this:

Of course there is no universal law. But just because there isn’t doesn’t mean we condone this kind of violence to those having opposing political views or worldviews in general. This same kind of thinking that got peacemakers killed. When figures like MLK, Ghandi & Lincoln were assassinated- there were many who felt they deserved it. Charlie Kirk was not a peace maker by any means-but the same justifications and rationalizations for his killing are being used We need to acknowledge how nuance this topic of political violence is.

Owen Cook response:

this thread is spiraling. We don't know the killer nor the motive yet. What we do know is a man lost his life today for invoking his first amendment rights granted to him by the US Constitution, decency goes a long way if you're a US citizen (even if you disagree) All of what's going on here is a reflection of where we are as a nation

Trump is already propagandizing the public, blames radical left in his address: This will certainly be used as cannon fodder to go after the political enemies of MAGA !

Always enjoy Vlad's perspective:

That is fair, you did not mention Charlie Kirk specifically, my bad. I do hear you on the relativity of political violence, however-I can't see this recent event turning out to be good US democracy and political discourse, at least in short to mid term. But that's me- maybe my view is too limited. MLK was assassinated in similar fashion- was that a good? Depends on who you talk to-for white supremacist, yes. Did it strengthen the civil rights movement? To a degree it did- but what if he survived, would we have more progress? All these are open questions.

Maybe good for folks living in Japan today Relatively speaking ... if we were in Japan in 1945, I'm sure we wouldn't think this way

Are you insinuating that Charlie Kirk's assassination will lead to some positive progressive change in US democracy?